JD80
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They need to get creative like that 50% discount they offered for kids. Would be nice if kids weren't just 9 and under.
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They need to get creative like that 50% discount they offered for kids. Would be nice if kids weren't just 9 and under.
MagicHappens1971
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Disney doesn’t have the park capacity to offer G+ to all of its hotel guests for “free”. It would have to be only a perk for “certain guests”
wannabeBelle
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Not sure I agree with that. Fast Pass Plus was offered not only for onsite guests but anyone with a park ticket. Granted FP+ was limited to three initial selections and then anything after that was done on the day of, based on availability. Still, can it be done? I think so. Will it, that is the question. Marie
JD80
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G+ requires less capacity than FP+ because FP+ allowed you to re-do rides and was given to anyone with a ticket.
The Mouse has had a bullseye since its existence. UO / Epic will have visitors like me for a day or two but most of the vacation will be spent by us at WDW parks and resorts.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Id argue that media is too widespread/available
More difficult to create a captive audience
The cast working at AK must have loved working bankers hours , park open 9am , park close 5pm.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Fastpass + was mathematically stupidity…and created the boondoggle that is genie today
Nubs70
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In the end. The guest is paying a premium for the Spirit Airlines experience of theme parks. I would not be surprised if the WDW mobile merch vendors start selling lottery tickets like the flight attendants on Ryan Air
UNCgolf
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I think TV ads of that era were probably more effective than social media marketing in terms of attracting new customers/increasing overall awareness -- social media marketing is probably more likely to target/bring back repeat guests due to the nature of how it works.
Regardless, I'd expect EU to have broader awareness among the general public after it's been open a couple of years.
Laketravis
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LOL! Or those famous last words - "This better work, Bob"
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Grimley1968
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When I had younger children, and we had the nostalgic pull of WDW for them, plus the nostalgic pull of WDW from my wife's and my own childhood (mostly after the "tickets for everything" phase in the beginning), it seemed impossible to believe that any of the competing theme park experiences could ever catch up with WDW, in terms of guest attendance.
But these days, with the seeming reversion to the "tickets for everything" phase via making guests pay for things that used to be included and with the seeming unwillingness by Disney to do anything in WDW that doesn't promote one of the newer, less enduring IP's, Disney is squandering much of the nostalgic pull for both us and our 20-something daughters. For our daughters, Universal IP's hold as much nostalgia for them as anything Disney-related. Universal may be as money grubbing as WDW, but with WDW losing (or willingly shedding) its nostalgia advantage, it's a 50-50 shot whether our daughters decide to ditch WDW and go to Universal parks when they someday take their own kids to Florida for vacations. I think we're far from the only people our age who see the possibility coming that WDW someday loses its central Florida theme park king of the hill status.
But these days, with the seeming reversion to the "tickets for everything" phase via making guests pay for things that used to be included and with the seeming unwillingness by Disney to do anything in WDW that doesn't promote one of the newer, less enduring IP's, Disney is squandering much of the nostalgic pull for both us and our 20-something daughters. For our daughters, Universal IP's hold as much nostalgia for them as anything Disney-related. Universal may be as money grubbing as WDW, but with WDW losing (or willingly shedding) its nostalgia advantage, it's a 50-50 shot whether our daughters decide to ditch WDW and go to Universal parks when they someday take their own kids to Florida for vacations. I think we're far from the only people our age who see the possibility coming that WDW someday loses its central Florida theme park king of the hill status.
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This is going in a different direction, but one thing that drives me crazy is their refusal to run attractions at full capacity all day long.
There is no reason one side of Space Mountain should ever be closed from park opening to park closing. Same thing for using only half of the load platforms for Thunder, Guardians, or Remy... or closing a theater or two for Soarin'. It's horrible customer service and it contributes to the artificial crowding.
There is no reason one side of Space Mountain should ever be closed from park opening to park closing. Same thing for using only half of the load platforms for Thunder, Guardians, or Remy... or closing a theater or two for Soarin'. It's horrible customer service and it contributes to the artificial crowding.
JoeCamel
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I've always held the WDW makes me give them money and Universal makes me want to give them money. Bob's hand in my pocket is creepy and Brian's hand out makes me want to fill it for the value returned
Vegas Disney Fan
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I think the decline of Disney is a bigger threat to Disney than the increasing quality at Universal, Universal has reached the point they’ll very likely get 2 days from us every time we visit Florida, Disney on the other hand has become so expensive, and such a hassle, we will likely reduce our WDW trips altogether in favor of cruises and other non theme park vacation destinations.
This will likely hurt Uni also, Uni hasnt reached the point of being a standalone trip for us so if we are going to FL less for WDW that also means fewer Uni add on days from us.
Splash4eva
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I am a DAS user and i still buy Genie because with the long inflated wait times. You be basically doing a ride then waiting at least 60-75 minutes to do the next one. Not the ideal vacation especially with a child. My sample size is small but everyone else that i talk with who uses it still buys Genie as well. Not saying its the norm just stating my experience
Splash4eva
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I just dont get how saying giving people staying “deluxe” free genie helps? Those people have the money anyways and now all you are doing is letting people who didnt buy it get access to it limiting others now.
PREMiERdrum
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It's not about increasing system access, it's about adding incentive to fill empty rooms.
In the hotel industry it is called " heads on beds ". Also to sell out the hotel nightly is an operational goal. At times if a guest checks out at 6pm, housekeeping will be dispatched to quickly clean the room to have the room available for the front desk to sell the room again ( ie heads on beds ).