Minnesota disney fan
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The kids that we saw this Halloween were mostly Mario, and witches were second, lol. I was surprised at all the Mario's so I think that park will be a big smash for boys, and everyone who enjoys Mario.
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networkpro
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Yes Sir Mickey is indeed a gift shop, but since 2019 its merchandise is all princess attire, well there are a few foam swords and shields.
Animaniac93-98
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While we as Disney fans know MK offers much more than Princesses, the public perception that MK is the "princess park" can't be overstated.
They need to do a better job advertising what the park actually offers, even if that goes against their IP/character focus.
Animaniac93-98
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They tried really hard to make Pirates the boys equivalent to Princesses in the mid-to-late 2000s, but after they bought Marvel and Star Wars, they gave up trying to make any in-house boy-centric toy lines.
Too bad the "Disney Heroes" products with Peter Pan, Hercules, Aladdin etc didn't work for them.
I expected posters to this site would know better.
DisneyHead123
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A gift shop that is largely a dress emporium, to my mind. They throw some scraps to the boys but nowhere near the scale.
Regarding Tomorrowland, Adventureland, and Frontierland - I enjoy them, of course, but I don't see boys losing their minds over the prospect of visiting them, the way that little girls lose their minds when told they're going to BBB and CRT afterwards.
Marvel is a strong IP with boys, although I'm not clear on the ride restrictions they have in Orlando. I think only Universal can use the most popular characters like Spider? SW I don't hear a lot of kids talking about. It's all Mario, Spidey, Roblox. Paw Patrol, trucks / trains / cars with the littles - Bluey probably does have a bit of traction with that crowd, but I doubt Bluey will end up in the parks.
DisneyHead123
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Yeah, it just seems like nothing they threw out there stuck. I recall reading somewhere that they tried forever to get a video game line going as well, and that just never took off either (they do offer games but I believe at this point they license rights to other companies).
erasure fan1
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It's not that Disney interactive never took off. It was the games in general were not very good. Iger has never been a fan of the video game space, so he never knew how to handle it. Lucasarts was a successful developer for many, many years. One of the first things Iger did when Lucasfilm was purchased, was kill Lucasarts. Most of what Disney put out in the video game space, was generic movie/tv tie in shovelware. It's unfortunate because they have such a rich ip catalog that most developers would kill for.
Sirwalterraleigh
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That’s the smart play anyway
That’s moving the goalpost. You made the point that Disney didn't offer as much for boys. When in reality they offer a lot.
Maybe you should consider a trip to CA to see Carsland and Marvel Campus.
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JoeCamel
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Took 10 years for the IOA expansion so to me that or 15 sounds like a reasonable time frame. They can pour money into Orlando for the next 15 years if the demand is there
Comcast is much more aggressive
/proactive and the land needs much less renovation than IOA's did plus the bigger picture
Universal's resources are richer.
It will be interesting to see for sure. It will likely depend on what pop culture will bring in the next five years as well.
It will be very interesting to see what plans are in store to keep LA alive and how Texas and Vegas work out regionally speaking.
At the end of the day, people who think that Epic Universe is just a third theme park are not realizing the scope of this project.
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I imagine that the next big expansions will be bringing the other two big Nintendo properties to Orlando, next up will be Hyrule aka Legend of Zelda land to the lost continent, and when rights expire in 2028 (I believe) turning Springfield and potentially MIB to Kanto/Pokemon Land. Both locations I imagine will have shows (a stunt show back in Sinbad, and a Pokemon Tournament special effect show) shops and a signature ride.
DisneyHead123
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Interesting, I didn’t know the backstory. I feel like they’ll need to get back into games / apps at some point if they want to stay relevant in the entertainment portion of the business (unless just licensing out their IP makes more sense logistically.)
Disney isn't very good at running their own website. Why would anyone think they would be good at video games?
erasure fan1
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I think both makes sense. Different developers have different strengths. The smartest thing Lucasarts did was let bioware make knights of the old republic. Also Disney allowing square enix to make kingdom hearts was also a great move. Video games are the largest entertainment sector by far, so Disney would be smart to take is seriously and figure it out. Unfortunately I don't see that happening under the current Iger administration.
erasure fan1
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That's very true. The point is more they could and should. At this point, their only really good option is to buy their way back in. They'd need to purchase a couple studios, and hire an industry veteran to run things, then let them work. Unfortunately, like a lot of what has happened under Iger quality would not be the priority, micro transactions would. We already saw it with how they handled the star wars video game license.
networkpro
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Wdw is not the West coast, and some of us prefer not to go there instead traveling to Florida.
And that's fine. There's still buckets of stuff aimed at boys at WDW.
But not a lot of current popular ip. Not when compared to Universal:
-Dr Seuss
-Spiderman
-X-Men
-Mario
-How to Train Your Dragon
-Kung Fu Panda
-Minnions
WDW, other then GotG and Mickey, are dated.