Vegas Disney Fan
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Don’t forget to adjust for inflation, the $70 billion in overall Disney revenue in 2019 is equal to $84 billion today. 20% inflation in just 4 year, Inflation is out of control.
To what point are the wait times estimated? Pre show or ride load? Just curious how close the estimates are. Many times in the non-busy visit on Wed and Thurs, it seemed the waits were significantly lower than posted but then I was thinking that they are more accurate if they are giving the time until you load. FoP is like 10 minutes of pre-show and if you count from the room before the transmission from Rey on RotR, it is a very long time until you actually load.
“In other news: crowds have been down for 6 months and will continue to be for the foreseeable future as they go “luxury” with no clientele that fits…you dirty pirate hookerNo major holiday, and Jersey week is two weeks away. You should have a fun low crowd experience.
…the 7th layerDumb question but what is Jersey Week?
Not quite burn no! But I kinda agree with the Bob thing, just thought he would change more 2nd time, but he is responsible for the failure of D+ , no doubt! And we are paying for it now, these parks need a duo of great minds, the best one Walt and Roy, then Eisner/wells , after that it’s been single mined people using it as a toy room for them selves, we need a duo back , one to fire off the other , so not burn, but defo change , and no not Josh!!!Feel nervous for the mouse?
Hahahahaha
Nope let it burn.
Whatever it takes for Iger to be removed.
Until then let it burn.
I think 2019 makes a good dividing line between their old operating practices and the new "revalued" practices. All things being equal (generally) if their revenue from the new system starts to drop below 2019 measures, I could see them reversing course on some of their recent changes and their investment plans. I've said all along that their post-2019 strategy was an experiment and it probably wouldn't take much to give up on it and revert back to being a discount volume operator again.
But I also think going back to their 2019 playbook would be absolutely disastrous for the parks long term.
Reorganization wouldn’t affect parks revenue at allOk I’ll stop for a bit after this:
Parks revenue drops below 2019… “This is expected. They just went through a major overhaul and structural reorganization. They had to take a loss up front in order to keep the company healthy in the long-term. These things don’t change overnight”
I was predicting another posters responseReorganization wouldn’t affect parks revenue at all
Drops in foot traffic and sales of high profit Chinese junk in the giftshops
…oops…I think I just gave away the secret
…you totally buzzed the tower, gooseI was predicting another posters response
I think the drop of high profit Chinese junk is mostly do to them selling the same high priced Chinese junk you can get at a low price in a Walmart. Last time I was in a Target or Walmart I saw very big and wide selection of Disney character clothing which has to be reducing the need for anyone to buy a 35 dollar shirt in WDW when they can get the same damn thing in a Walmart or Target for half the price.Reorganization wouldn’t affect parks revenue at all
Drops in foot traffic and sales of high profit Chinese junk in the giftshops
…oops…I think I just gave away the secret
Yes and No. if you are on vacation and your kid wants something/wife/gf its tough to say no in that moment. Want to say the choices have been generic and blah and limited the past say 5 years that i will agree on.I think the drop of high profit Chinese junk is mostly do to them selling the same high priced Chinese junk you can get at a low price in a Walmart. Last time I was in a Target or Walmart I saw very big and wide selection of Disney character clothing which has to be reducing the need for anyone to buy a 35 dollar shirt in WDW when they can get the same damn thing in a Walmart or Target for half the price.
Oh they are very generic... I recall the 70's you had things you would only see in Disney...by the 80's you were getting some lower end stuff but still not complete .... by the 90's it was a mix with more cheap generic garbage... and now it is just crap. I still remember a halloween back around 2010 when out suitcase was lost and we needed to get our daughter a costume quick, the resort had some very nice high quality princess costumes... 10 years later we looked at what the GF had to offer and it was identical to the crap you would find on a Walmart shelf but for 4 times the price. I wouldn't care if my girlfriend/wife/kid saw and begged for it I would spend the hour driving to the walmart outside the park... if I didn't have a car I would call a taxi and still save money.Yes and No. if you are on vacation and your kid wants something/wife/gf its tough to say no in that moment. Want to say the choices have been generic and blah and limited the past say 5 years that i will agree on.
I suspect their jacked up ticket prices probably just result in fewer day trippers, get the multi-day tickets and your price drops... but the multi-day park guests aren't going to spend nearly as much on a per visit basis as a day tripper. So revenues will take a hit just from the change in the guest mix even if you had the same number of guests.I will say that from personal experience, last weekend (Sunday late morning to early afternoon), and today (about the same time), MK was far more packed than DHS was, even if DHS is quite a bit smaller in comparison. But both were still quite healthy attendance wise in my view.
Based on Touringplans data, it looks to me like crowds have recovered this fall compared to previous falls (based on crowd levels). I hate to give credit to anything Iger is saying, but he may be on to something with the weather. Climate change has basically made Florida completely unbearable in the summer (especially between the hours of 10 and 4). I think we will continue to see summer crowds diminish, but other times of the year seem fine.
Agree with all except that last part lolOh they are very generic... I recall the 70's you had things you would only see in Disney...by the 80's you were getting some lower end stuff but still not complete .... by the 90's it was a mix with more cheap generic garbage... and now it is just crap. I still remember a halloween back around 2010 when out suitcase was lost and we needed to get our daughter a costume quick, the resort had some very nice high quality princess costumes... 10 years later we looked at what the GF had to offer and it was identical to the crap you would find on a Walmart shelf but for 4 times the price. I wouldn't care if my girlfriend/wife/kid saw and begged for it I would spend the hour driving to the walmart outside the park... if I didn't have a car I would call a taxi and still save money.
I bought my 2 year old an adorable Disney100 shirt from JC Penney for 3 dollars after our tripI think the drop of high profit Chinese junk is mostly do to them selling the same high priced Chinese junk you can get at a low price in a Walmart. Last time I was in a Target or Walmart I saw very big and wide selection of Disney character clothing which has to be reducing the need for anyone to buy a 35 dollar shirt in WDW when they can get the same damn thing in a Walmart or Target for half the price.
October is one of the busiest months a year now…If not the busiest. They have shifted the calendar successfully and there’s a lot of shiny toys in October.I will say that from personal experience, last weekend (Sunday late morning to early afternoon), and today (about the same time), MK was far more packed than DHS was, even if DHS is quite a bit smaller in comparison. But both were still quite healthy attendance wise in my view.
Crowds have been shifting for years…that still doesn’t explain empty hotel rooms and massive promos/discounts.Based on Touringplans data, it looks to me like crowds have recovered this fall compared to previous falls (based on crowd levels). I hate to give credit to anything Iger is saying, but he may be on to something with the weather. Climate change has basically made Florida completely unbearable in the summer (especially between the hours of 10 and 4). I think we will continue to see summer crowds diminish, but other times of the year seem fine.
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