Wait - they were seriously considering shuttering entire RESORTS?
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Wait - they were seriously considering shuttering entire RESORTS?
JoeCamel
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They have done it before
During 9/11 and the Great Recession - both economic/political things beyond their control causing massive drops.
There are no geopolitical forces at work right now that should be forcing their hand in this way was my point. If they’re shuttering large swaths of resorts starting with POR (which is a pretty popular moderate) it must be looking bad.
PREMiERdrum
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Looking at late summer and fall, about 1 out of every 6 or 7 rooms could be taken offline without leaving guests homeless.
Dad 2 M & M
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AoA….was supposed to be the 00s-40s….LM section was supposed to be the 40s in the Legendary Years side of Pop….the buildings were roughed and sat a while before finally dryed in and completed…as LM of AoA
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So they’re flirting with 80% occupancy basically? What was occupancy post 2008/2009 or even post September 11th?
That’s ROUGH.
It is a better look from a PR standpoint to take sections offline instead of a whole resort - I get that 100% but man that is not good for Disney if this continues.
Is this trend continuing into November and December as well?
DisneyFanatic12
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So many stores are going out of business right now, I doubt the economy will change much long term. Though, we should always remember there are peaks and troughs in hotel occupancy as well as attendance to account for as well.
Tha Realest
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Am I misremembering things or was one of the ways the Ronny character in Beverly Hills Cop II helped piece together the crimes was while he was jogging?
Are Len’s gumshoes actually running shoes?
flynnibus
Premium Member
Both Star Wars and Avatar are good products. New Fantasyland has issues, but also was a much needed bump.
SWGE could have been a potter swatter... but choices seemed to hold that back. Disney being bigger is much harder to keep up and refresh too.
Judging by these boards, the opening of Epic Universe can be kneedcapped by Disney by simply creating a new Electric Night Parade.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
Disney is unconcerned because Epic Universe is actually the site of an upcoming space-folding experiment that will create a wormhole to 1982 EPCOT.
JoeCamel
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And cupcakes, gotta have cupcakes too
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…it’s low occ
And not even trying to hide it is pretty stunning
they bothered to hide it in 2002
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s not that they aren’t good products…it’s that the fact he bookended them with 5-10 years of stagnation that diminishes the effect.
It’s not enough…park stagnation is the #1 enemy of parks and will always be. And Disney used to understand to NOT do that.
But Bob read a book and started believing his own BS.
Ok…the Star Wars land is well constructed…but not interesting. They need to tear the bandaid off and go OT redo like yesterday. But this pompous yutz has to be shown the door first.
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That is a disaster for resort/theme park operations
I only say it because it’s true.
The other thing I wonder it the amount of off property park business they’re losing?
Because I think that’s the elephant.
We have on 40,000 rooms on property…
But what about the hundreds of thousands within 10 miles off?
Can’t wait to see what they spin for numbers?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
All old tricks…
The difference is wdw rooms do not sit empty to a significant level unless there’s a typhoon heading there or a severe recession
The lead that’s getting buried is they’ve never had this kind of a dip in what is labeled a “good economy”
Not Once.
And it ain’t a guy who’s polling at 10% of his own crowd behind a guy that gets indicted once a week.
Nope.
It’s the price. Both at home and in bobs Brain. The model is not lining up.
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Eric Graham
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There are cupcakes at Disney???
JoeCamel
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We are going for a few days next week and pretty much avoiding parks during the day because of the heat. Doing EMH at MK (we will get there around 6/7), Hollywood Studios for a few hours one evening, and after hours at Epcot the other day. Trying to avoid the heat and crowds as much as possible
JoeCamel
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However will you maximize the value of your passes if you don't spend every possible minute in the parks? Sacrilege!