Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

GhostHost1000

GhostHost1000

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monothingie said:
Pull the lever Josh!
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It's going to be hilarious when Josh gets scapegoated for the Disney Parks disaster. Of course, he's not entirely blameless so I'm not upset.
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I think Bob will blame inflation and the economy next time. Nothing is ever his fault and he doesn’t realize what he’s done (wrong) over the years
 
flyerjab

flyerjab

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I love how Iger crawls out of his tomb to take over the reigns again. Talks about how he doesn’t like how expensive things have been getting for guests, but continues to (of course) raise prices.

His forehead is stapled to that stock price. It is all he sees. I understand his obligations to share holders, but that type of tunnel vision can create bad choices.
 
Dranth

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brettf22 said:
My totally N-of-1 anecdote for popularity of different travel locations this summer. My daughter just returned from Europe. Her economy RT flight on United (from DC area to Heathrow) was $1600.

In contrast, my trip to Disney in a couple of weeks?

$118, round trip. Also on United.
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Wow, that is high. Wonder if it was a timing thing? I've been watching costs from our local airport that feeds into ATL and flights to London have generally run in the $800-$900 range if you book more than 4 months out. It tends to drop around the 3-4 month range and then climbs from there.
 
MisterPenguin

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flyerjab said:
His forehead is stapled to that stock price.
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I'm sure the Board wants him to keep an eye on it, too.

As well as all investors, including giant trading houses holding Disney stock in the portfolio and watching it stagnate.

In the past year, Disney has had two aborted attempts from billionaires to get on the board just so they can pull the levers to raise the stock price.

It would be gross incompetence on his part if he wasn't constantly aware of the stock price.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Dranth said:
Wow, that is high.
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Not really

Avg london airfare i track is 800-2000 depending on timing. From iad or ewr

In my experience 1200 is good… above 1600 is the ‘expensive’ band. Getting sub 1k is ‘good deal’

(From the guy who flys there multiple times a year)
But no I don’t book 6months out
 
Smugpugmug

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brettf22 said:
My totally N-of-1 anecdote for popularity of different travel locations this summer. My daughter just returned from Europe. Her economy RT flight on United (from DC area to Heathrow) was $1600.

In contrast, my trip to Disney in a couple of weeks?

$118, round trip. Also on United.
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I fly out of the DC area regularly (IAD and BWI). That price is pretty consistent with every major European city.

I'm flying out of MCO back to BWI this September and my flight was $215 on Southwest.
 
Dranth

Dranth

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flynnibus said:
Not really

Avg london airfare i track is 800-2000 depending on timing. From iad or ewr

In my experience 1200 is good… above 1600 is the ‘expensive’ band. Getting sub 1k is ‘good deal’

(From the guy who flys there multiple times a year)
But no I don’t book 6months out
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Interesting, I wonder if it is something about flying through Atlanta because even flights a month out are coming in less than that when I look. I can book right now on Delta, American, British Airways and Virgin Atlantic all for around $920 round trip leaving 8/12 and coming back 8/19. To be fair, any earlier than that and it starts to jump in price pretty fast.

ETA: We have the option to drive to Atlanta or Charlotte instead of using our local airport to save a bit on the flights as both are about two hours away. Typically that will take off around $100-$150 on a round trip ticket. So, just out of curiosity I checked what it would be to just fly out of Atlanta and the price actually jumped to $1,300 for the exact same airline and flights I was looking at.

8/12-8/19 round trip from our local regional airport to ATL to London, $916.
8/12-8/19 driving to ATL then round trip to London, $1,397

I'm not going to complain but what? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
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monothingie

monothingie

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brettf22 said:
My totally N-of-1 anecdote for popularity of different travel locations this summer. My daughter just returned from Europe. Her economy RT flight on United (from DC area to Heathrow) was $1600.

In contrast, my trip to Disney in a couple of weeks?

$118, round trip. Also on United.
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I’ve noticed this and rebooked two of my UAL bookings to save a couple of hundred dollars versus when they were originally made in February. You can thank UAL’s dynamic pricing system which likely boosted pricing based on previous high demand and decreased number of flights. Now that things have stabilized pricing is getting back to normal prepandemic levels.

The major benefit customers now have is that with most carriers doing away with change fees flights can easily be rebooked at lower prices. However important to note that the difference in fair will usually be in the form of a future travel credit.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Dranth said:
Interesting, I wonder if it is something about flying through Atlanta because even flights a month out are coming in less than that when I look.
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It is really seasonal too. Right now i can book aug sat-sat dates sub 1k. sat to sat dates in sept? Back to 1000-1300. Drop the saturday stayover and do sun-sat and it jumps to 1800 :)
 
flyerjab

flyerjab

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MisterPenguin said:
I'm sure the Board wants him to keep an eye on it, too.

As well as all investors, including giant trading houses holding Disney stock in the portfolio and watching it stagnate.

In the past year, Disney has had two aborted attempts from billionaires to get on the board just so they can pull the levers to raise the stock price.

It would be gross incompetence on his part if he wasn't constantly aware of the stock price.
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And of course I indicated I knew that…but that is fine.
 
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Thepuma

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brettf22 said:
My totally N-of-1 anecdote for popularity of different travel locations this summer. My daughter just returned from Europe. Her economy RT flight on United (from DC area to Heathrow) was $1600.

In contrast, my trip to Disney in a couple of weeks?

$118, round trip. Also on United.
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It's worth looking at Norse Airways.

On average IAD to London Gatwick is around $650 - 700 return.
 
Nubs70

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CaptainAmerica said:
Yeah Norse Airways where checked bags cost extra, carry-on bags cost extra, seat selection costs extra, etc.

It's not viable for families with children until you do all the add-ons, and at that point it's not cheaper than anything else.
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I used Norse back when it was Norwegian. Pricing was good, very good while in the air. However, the on time departure kind of sucked and the counter staff were pretty much awful.
 

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