Inside Out 2

Disney Irish

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LittleBuford said:
(Perhaps someone else could ask him in case he has me on ignore?)
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No, I think he just isn't answering because there is no actual "edits" he can speak of. Its a bad take that somehow it must have had edits that is why it did so well. Just like the bad take that a delay in releasing a movie automatically means major rework, when none is actually reported.
 
LittleBuford

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Disney Irish said:
No, I think he just isn't answering because there is no actual "edits" he can speak of. Its a bad take that somehow it must have had edits that is why it did so well. Just like the bad take that a delay in releasing a movie automatically means major rework, when none is actually reported.
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It was said with such certainty that I was sure it must have been based on something he'd read, but I searched around a bit and drew a blank. I'm giving him a chance to clarify, but in the absense of a follow-up, I can only assume you're right.
 
Disney Irish

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LittleBuford said:
It was said with such certainty that I was sure it must have been based on something he'd read, but I searched around a bit and drew a blank. I'm giving him a chance to clarify, but in the absense of a follow-up, I can only assume you're right.
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I've learned to take almost everything they post as a joke or snarky comment.
 
Disney Irish

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BrianLo said:
Elio was reworked.

But not for nebulous reasons, just because the story wasn’t clicking well to earn the third act. Which is typical for where it was in the production cycle when it was delayed.

(The director talked around this in a panel)
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Understood, but I don't think it was "majorly" reworked as the poster was indicating. As even the trailer still had the same elements that you yourself thought has been removed, like the mom.

Unfortunately too often this idea of "rework" or "reshoots" are used as negatives against a movie. I'm trying to combat that, as its not a negative thing and shouldn't be seen as such.
 
EagleScout610

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Fox&Hound said:
I wonder if the reveal of Riley’s deep dark secret after the credits was a last minute addition in order to quell any suspicions about her deep dark secret being something controversial. Wasn’t it something lame like she spilled something on her grandma’s rug????
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WE BURN HOLE IN RUUUUUGGGG
 
DisneyWarrior27

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easyrowrdw said:
Here is an article about the production of Inside Out 2 published today by IGN. It does not portray it in a positive light. It also gets into areas beyond the movie, such as the culture at Pixar.
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Man, we gotta make sure Elio and Hoppers are hits at the box office for Pixar when they come out next June and in March 2026, especially if their quality is strong, or else we may never see Disney let Pixar do more original films.
 
Ghost93

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easyrowrdw said:
Here is an article about the production of Inside Out 2 published today by IGN. It does not portray it in a positive light. It also gets into areas beyond the movie, such as the culture at Pixar.
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If the LGBT elements that were cut out weren't substantial, it was probably a smart business decision (even if not necessarily the right from a morality standpoint). If Disney is going to risk the financial backlash of having a major gay character, it needs to be in a movie that heavily revolves around a gay romance or something — not a few blink and you miss it moments.

I do think Riley being gay and dealing with that would have made the movie dramatically compelling but I honestly don't think Disney would be bold enough to make such a film.
 
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Casper Gutman

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Ghost93 said:
If the LGBT elements that were cut out weren't substantial, it was probably a smart business decision (event if not necessarily the right from a morality standpoint). If Disney is going to risk the financial backlash of having a major gay character, it needs to be in a movie that heavily revolves around a gay romance or something — not a few blink and you miss it moments.

I do think Riley being gay and dealing with that would have made the movie dramatically compelling but I honestly don't think Disney would be bold enough to make such a film.
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The problem is it’s a lot harder to jump from “no representation” to “main character and thematic center of a film,” then it is to gradually build representation over many years. We’re witnessing a very significant cultural surrender to some of the worst and loudest voices in society.
 
Ghost93

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Casper Gutman said:
The problem is it’s a lot harder to jump from “no representation” to “main character and thematic center of a film,” then it is to gradually build representation over many years. We’re witnessing a very significant cultural surrender to some of the worst and loudest voices in society.
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Fair point. I just believe that Disney will face significant backlash for any LGBT representation, so if they are going to do it, they might as well go all in.

Still, while Lightyear and Strange World were flops, I do concede they were important stepping stones in destigmatizing LGBT representation in family films.
 
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I don't think Pixar is surrendering anything. Riley's character has been portrayed consistently. The article is clear that Riley likes boys and there's been nothing to indicate otherwise. Some fans were pushing for Riley to be what they wanted anyway. (Something similar happened with Luca.) On other side, different fans were pushing for nothing of the sort. In Pixar's view, those fans had a negative impact on the performance of one movie.

It seems to me that Pixar was trying to convey Riley very clearly so neither side could read into it some imaginary thing they could use to make their points. They didn't change Riley's character. Given how strongly Riley's character and story resonated strongly with audiences, it seems like they made a good decision.

My preference is for Pixar to continue telling the stories it wants and not look to appease or appeal to whatever outside groups want. Audience opinions matter, but I don't think you win by kowtowing to them.
 
LittleBuford

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easyrowrdw said:
My preference is for Pixar to continue telling the stories it wants and not look to appease or appeal to whatever outside groups want. Audience opinions matter, but I don't think you win by kowtowing to them.
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What if those outside groups are pushing to prevent LBTQ representation? Perhaps I’m misunderstanding you, but you’re making it seem as if the only people with an agenda are those who welcome such representation.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

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LittleBuford said:
What if those outside groups are pushing to prevent LBTQ representation? Perhaps I’m misunderstanding you, but you’re making it seem as if the only people with an agenda are those who welcome such representation.
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I read that the opposite of you, I thought they meant to ignore those saying to keep out LGBT… so I guess their point is valid, just make great stories and ignore all sides who are putting pressure on them.

Make a good enough story and I don’t think the vast majority will care whether the character is gay, straight, black, white, etc… there’s always going to be the extremes on both sides that won’t be satisfied no matter what they do but if the story is good people will generally like it, if the story is weak everything else will get scrutinized to death.
 
Phroobar

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easyrowrdw said:
I don't think Pixar is surrendering anything. Riley's character has been portrayed consistently. The article is clear that Riley likes boys and there's been nothing to indicate otherwise. Some fans were pushing for Riley to be what they wanted anyway. (Something similar happened with Luca.) On other side, different fans were pushing for nothing of the sort. In Pixar's view, those fans had a negative impact on the performance of one movie.

It seems to me that Pixar was trying to convey Riley very clearly so neither side could read into it some imaginary thing they could use to make their points. They didn't change Riley's character. Given how strongly Riley's character and story resonated strongly with audiences, it seems like they made a good decision.

My preference is for Pixar to continue telling the stories it wants and not look to appease or appeal to whatever outside groups want. Audience opinions matter, but I don't think you win by kowtowing to them.
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Correct. She sees the other girl as a celebrity and acts a little goofy around here. We would all do that meeting our favorite sports star or celebrity. Pixar did a good job showing that emotion.
 
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easyrowrdw

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LittleBuford said:
What if those outside groups are pushing to prevent LBTQ representation? Perhaps I’m misunderstanding you, but you’re making it seem as if the only people with an agenda are those who welcome such representation.
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I wasn't intending to. From my original comment..."On other side, different fans were pushing for nothing of the sort."
 
Magenta Panther

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Ah, so Disney learned its lesson after all, and applied it to Inside Out 2...


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