Indiana Jones Adventure refurbishment

[chadwpalm]

I appreciate the insight, thank you. It's consternating that such an obvious issue with water based mechanics was overlooked.

How hard could it have been to put heating elements in the floor were the ice lands? By the size of the budget, that would have been like pennies. Houses have heated floors. How much could it have cost to cover four feet?

These can both be addressed by two words. Paul Pressler.

Tony said besides the additional queue elements that were cut, there were also plans for mine carts and the Jungle Cruise intertwining with the ride. All that was cut, but he also said in hindsight that the ROI was so great they probably could have still put all of that stuff in and still made a profit. He stated that when IJA premiered in the park, it was the only year in history that attendance at Disneyland was higher than the entirety of WDW for that year.

 

[Phroobar]

These can both be addressed by two words. Paul Pressler.

Tony said besides the additional queue elements that were cut, there were also plans for mine carts and the Jungle Cruise intertwining with the ride. All that was cut, but he also said in hindsight that the ROI was so great they probably could have still put all of that stuff in and still made a profit. He stated that when IJA premiered in the park, it was the only year in history that attendance at Disneyland was higher than the entirety of WDW for that year.

It feels like every day Disneyland has higher attendance then all of WDW.

 

[flynnibus]

How hard could it have been to put heating elements in the floor were the ice lands? By the size of the budget, that would have been like pennies. Houses have heated floors. How much could it have cost to cover four feet?

Still takes time for ice to melt... remember you have vehicles coming by every like 30-45 seconds. That's a lot of stuff that keeps piling up without much time to get rid of build up.

 

[SuddenStorm]

These can both be addressed by two words. Paul Pressler.

Tony said besides the additional queue elements that were cut, there were also plans for mine carts and the Jungle Cruise intertwining with the ride. All that was cut, but he also said in hindsight that the ROI was so great they probably could have still put all of that stuff in and still made a profit. He stated that when IJA premiered in the park, it was the only year in history that attendance at Disneyland was higher than the entirety of WDW for that year.

I believe it was higher attendance than Magic Kingdom- not the entirety of WDW.

 

[chadwpalm]

I believe it was higher attendance than Magic Kingdom- not the entirety of WDW.

Just quoting what Tony said. Whether he's right or wrong I do not know.

 

[smooch]

Am I not the only one surprised they didn't just drop the ice into a hole in the ground that funneled to a proper storage system that could hold the ice until it melts and then occasionally transfer that water somewhere else / recycle it to use in the ice machine again? Or is that sorta how the system was and I'm just confused?

 

[J4546]

Ij and the lost expedition is if I could pick one, thr one canceled concept I would build. I'd build it in Paris either dl or dsp cause either park could use it

 

[truecoat]

 

[SuddenStorm]

Just quoting what Tony said. Whether he's right or wrong I do not know.

I've listened to the same podcast- I'm fairly certain he says magic kingdom. I could be misremembering.

 

[Disney Irish]

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That looks similar to some of the concept art I saw back in the very early 90s when my step-mom's company was bidding for the contract to build the ride vehicles for what became the current Indy attraction. They unfortunately never got the contract.

 

[chadwpalm]

I've listened to the same podcast- I'm fairly certain he says magic kingdom. I could be misremembering.

278- The Tony Baxter Interview Part 3 8/7/14

Timestamp 1:27:18

 

[SuddenStorm]

278- The Tony Baxter Interview Part 3 8/7/14

Timestamp 1:27:18

I guess I just always took his comment to mean Magic Kingdom- since implying Disneyland park by itself somehow outdid every WDW park in attendance combined is hard to believe. I doubt the fire code would even let that happen.

It's not a big deal either way- the point is that Indy became a defining attraction for the park, and that if they had known it may have gotten a larger budget. He shares a similar story about Tarzan's treehouse outperforming expectations.

 

[SuddenStorm]

So, it's reopened and it doesn't look like they really fixed anything. The boulder is still very much in B mode, and the snake still doesn't move. The shortened preshow video remains.

 

[smooch]

So, it's reopened and it doesn't look like they really fixed anything. The boulder is still very much in B mode, and the snake still doesn't move. The shortened preshow video remains.

Maybe I'm just pessimistic or it's cause I don't know the next time I'll visit DLR but I think it's funny in a pathetic way that they can shut down Indie for a refurbishment with practically half the effects not working (and what seems like a majority of the main effects broken) and open it back up with so much broken. I guess it's cause we've seen this gradual decline in quality over time but it's just hilarious they think this is okay.

 

[_caleb]

Maybe I'm just pessimistic or it's cause I don't know the next time I'll visit DLR but I think it's funny in a pathetic way that they can shut down Indie for a refurbishment with practically half the effects not working (and what seems like a majority of the main effects broken) and open it back up with so much broken. I guess it's cause we've seen this gradual decline in quality over time but it's just hilarious they think this is okay.

You use that words "funny" and "hilarious" in ways I'm not familiar with here.

 

[smooch]

You use that words "funny" and "hilarious" in ways I'm not familiar with here.

I don't know, it makes me sad that Indy is in such a bad state but it's just laughable to me at this point Disney lets their attractions go to such sh*t and allowing them to still operate and present the rides to guests in that poor of conditions. Not like funny in a good way, it's just a disappointment that it's gotten this bad that (practically) the main effect of the ride, the boulder, doesn't even function properly after a refurbishment. I'm essentially laughing at modern Disney when I say I find it funny they can't operate a ride properly.

 

[Disney Analyst]

So, it's reopened and it doesn't look like they really fixed anything. The boulder is still very much in B mode, and the snake still doesn't move. The shortened preshow video remains.

My best assumption is this was for some critical maintenance, and possibly looking at all the other issues and coming up with the plan / solutions for the actual refurb to come.

 

[SuddenStorm]

My best assumption is this was for some critical maintenance, and possibly looking at all the other issues and coming up with the plan / solutions for the actual refurb to come.

The actual refurb that was supposed to happen two years ago?

Disneyland to give Indiana Jones Adventure thrill ride a $300,000 overhaul in 2020

 

[mickEblu]

The actual refurb that was supposed to happen two years ago?

Disneyland to give Indiana Jones Adventure thrill ride a $300,000 overhaul in 2020

Why does $300,000 not sound like enough considering the state it’s in? Either way with the way inflation is going it’s going to cost them $900,000 now.

 

[Phroobar]

Well you know you have to figure in the cost of sending a team of imagineers to India for a month to study the culture before returning to fix the broken effect so they are culturally accurate.