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News Improvements coming to the entrances of all four Walt Disney World theme parks

splash327

New Member
When I first read the title, I thought that they were going to actually make big improvements, such as interesting or fun looking ticket/magic band scanning areas. Epcot's still looks as it did back when it opened and unfortunately that isn't a good thing. However, beyond that, I couldn't think of any other ways to improve.

What I would like to know is this (and it is an actual question). What kind of things do people need that necessitate an entire backpack or multiple backpacks for visiting the parks?

With a baby, I could see diapers and stuff needed to take care of the baby for feeding and such. However, I see families walking in that look as if they are planning for a trek into the Andes or Himalayas. Did they mistake Expedition Everest for an actual trip on Mt. Everest? We always use the non-bag security and so it doesn't faze me either way (as long as I don't get whacked by someone's bag as they walk past).
While i don't have a huge backpack, i almost always have a bag. With having to ware glasses, i usually have my regular glasses in my bag, the current popcorn bucket, and a couple fuel rods to charge my phone.
 

MisterPenguin

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raymusiccity

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I used to work as a proofreader for the State Legislature here and ended up reading far more of the WV Code pertaining to alcohol than I ever wanted to. It's sooooo complicated. Also, I got a kick out of the usage of the term "non-intoxicating beer" in relation to any kind of beer. My college-aged self has something to say regarding the veracity of that description. lol
I think it alludes to the dreaded 2% beer !
 

monothingie

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Premium Member
That’s in the proposal I believe.
You mean it took them 3 years to figure out to reverse the exit and entrance ramps to the monorail station? (Exit through the current entrance and enter through the current exit)
 

monothingie

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Premium Member
That would put the entrance outside the current security perimeter, allowing non screened guests to board the monorail and travel to the MK.
You have security screening infrastructure right there at the current discharge. Very easy to reconfigure and Certainly would be a lot easier than building new ramps everywhere.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
You have security screening infrastructure right there at the current discharge. Very easy to reconfigure and Certainly would be a lot easier than building new ramps everywhere.
I don’t think you’re understanding the problem with your suggestion. You would have to move the current security checkpoint to outside of where the current monorail exit is located. And if you did that there would be no reason to swap the entrance and exit ramps anyway.

Simply swapping the exit and entry would not work.
 

monothingie

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I don’t think you’re understanding the problem with your suggestion. You would have to move the current security checkpoint to outside of where the current monorail exit is located. And if you did that there would be no reason to swap the entrance and exit ramps anyway.

Simply swapping the exit and entry would not work.


Unless there is a plan to build multiple new ramps into and out of the monorail station, they can reconfigure the existing single security check point that currently is a pinch point for all Buses, Trams, Pedestrians, and Monorail guests approaching by:

First directly isolating the current monorail discharge directly into the "secure area" via a barrier.

Next, using the existing pathways for the entrance area, create an additional security screening area for guests arriving from the bus stops.

Finally by switching the monorail entrance/exit you alleviate the on rush of guests into the current security check point area each time a monorail arrives and unloads, instead depositing them into the larger open entrance courtyard in front of the ticket windows.

During periods of heavy guest exiting traffic, it will work better by directing all guests to singular exit area for trams, busses, and monorails. By maintaining a barrier between the secure monorail entrance and the other park exits (buses/trams) security can be maintained. Additionally, it creates a larger queue area for guest using the monorails during peak exit rush times, instead of backing up the ramp and into the entrance courtyard.

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Tom P.

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Iger isn't the be all end all (but it's easy to hold the main man responsible, when WDW is just a blip on his radar, if on it at all)

Local management is to blame for how things are run in the Swamps.
Walt Disney World is the most visited vacation resort in the world and is consistently Disney's cash cow. Iger may not be managing day-to-day park operations, but I guarantee you that WDW is much more than a blip on his radar.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
Unless there is a plan to build multiple new ramps into and out of the monorail station, they can reconfigure the existing single security check point that currently is a pinch point for all Buses, Trams, Pedestrians, and Monorail guests approaching by:

First directly isolating the current monorail discharge directly into the "secure area" via a barrier.

Next, using the existing pathways for the entrance area, create an additional security screening area for guests arriving from the bus stops.

Finally by switching the monorail entrance/exit you alleviate the on rush of guests into the current security check point area each time a monorail arrives and unloads, instead depositing them into the larger open entrance courtyard in front of the ticket windows.

During periods of heavy guest exiting traffic, it will work better by directing all guests to singular exit area for trams, busses, and monorails. By maintaining a barrier between the secure monorail entrance and the other park exits (buses/trams) security can be maintained. Additionally, it creates a larger queue area for guest using the monorails during peak exit rush times, instead of backing up the ramp and into the entrance courtyard.

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Exactly. Simply swapping the ramps would not be the solution. The solution is moving the checkpoints, which ultimately will be done.
 
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monothingie

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Exactly. Simply swapping the ramps would not be the solution. The solution is moving the checkpoints, which ultimately will be done.
Which is what was implied what would be need to done in my original statement being fully aware of the need to maintain secure/non-secure areas.
 
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peter11435

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Which is what was implied what would be need to done in my original statement being fully aware of the need to maintain secure/non-secure areas.

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Your original post implied that all they had to do was simply switch the entrance and exit. Nothing more was implied. Obviously you know more would be necessary.
 
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DisneyJeff

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Your model would still work without changing the entrance/exit to the monorail. If you change the direction of your green arrows, it would still work as long as the exit lets guests into the secure zone. One advantage to not changing the enter/exit sides is that there is more space to queue on the current entrance side.
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monothingie

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Your model would still work without changing the entrance/exit to the monorail. If you change the direction of your green arrows, it would still work as long as the exit lets guests into the secure zone. One advantage to not changing the enter/exit sides is that there is more space to queue on the current entrance side.
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It would work, either way, however when a monorail arrives you have a sudden influx of hundreds of guests into that small area. Having the monorail exit through the current entrance directs those people into an entirely different area and allows the existing entry space to be significantly less busy. A much better guest experience.
 

Kman101

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Walt Disney World is the most visited vacation resort in the world and is consistently Disney's cash cow. Iger may not be managing day-to-day park operations, but I guarantee you that WDW is much more than a blip on his radar.
He's got a lot of responsibilities. WDW is a blip on his radar. Not saying he's not aware but people always like to lay it on his doorstep and I think that's misplaced blame. Not saying he shouldn't also be held accountable, practices come from the top.

Can you say he's hands-on? Nope. He isn't. He has a huge company to run. WDW *is* a blip. I think you're taking it wrong in how I'm referring to WDW as "a blip on his radar". It's not that he's not aware.

Michael Eisner was far more hands on and I would lay a lot of blame personally at his doorstep, for as much good, there was also quite a bit of bad. Iger isn't the same executive, he's not hands on and he doesn't care that much. If I'm totally wrong and an insider claims he loves the parks and is totally hands on, controlling the decisions, I'd blame him for a lot more. Again, it comes from the top, it's easy to blame Iger, but he's not hands-on with WDW.
 

Disneybear

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He's got a lot of responsibilities. WDW is a blip on his radar. Not saying he's not aware but people always like to lay it on his doorstep and I think that's misplaced blame. Not saying he shouldn't also be held accountable, practices come from the top.

Can you say he's hands-on? Nope. He isn't. He has a huge company to run. WDW *is* a blip. I think you're taking it wrong in how I'm referring to WDW as "a blip on his radar". It's not that he's not aware.

Michael Eisner was far more hands on and I would lay a lot of blame personally at his doorstep, for as much good, there was also quite a bit of bad. Iger isn't the same executive, he's not hands on and he doesn't care that much. If I'm totally wrong and an insider claims he loves the parks and is totally hands on, controlling the decisions, I'd blame him for a lot more. Again, it comes from the top, it's easy to blame Iger, but he's not hands-on with WDW.
Is he not responsible for appointing those who are in charge of the resort?
If his appointments are indifferent about the parks then in turn this reflects on him.
 

geekza

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Is he not responsible for appointing those who are in charge of the resort?
If his appointments are indifferent about the parks then in turn this reflects on him.
I don't think Chapek is indifferent to the parks; his ideas are simply not in line with what a lot of us feel are good or appropriate for the parks. They're spending a lot of money on the parks right now. They're just spending a lot of money to shove IP into the parks, sometimes where it has no business being shoved (Guardians). We're in a similar situation to the one we had in the later Eisner years where the edict was, if it wasn't making money, it was on the chopping block. With all of the nickel and diming going on (and showing no signs of slowing down), it's obvious that both Chapek and Iger see the parks as fertile ground for additional revenue, rather than an amazing place with outstanding experiences for families.
 

Mr Ferret 88

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When I first read the title, I thought that they were going to actually make big improvements, such as interesting or fun looking ticket/magic band scanning areas. Epcot's still looks as it did back when it opened and unfortunately that isn't a good thing. However, beyond that, I couldn't think of any other ways to improve.

What I would like to know is this (and it is an actual question). What kind of things do people need that necessitate an entire backpack or multiple backpacks for visiting the parks?

With a baby, I could see diapers and stuff needed to take care of the baby for feeding and such. However, I see families walking in that look as if they are planning for a trek into the Andes or Himalayas. Did they mistake Expedition Everest for an actual trip on Mt. Everest? We always use the non-bag security and so it doesn't faze me either way (as long as I don't get whacked by someone's bag as they walk past).
Where else am i going to put a complete change of outfit for my half dozen special needs poodles ????:rolleyes:
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Is he not responsible for appointing those who are in charge of the resort?
If his appointments are indifferent about the parks then in turn this reflects on him.
I've said certain things reflect on him. I just think people are too quick to blame him for everything. He's got a lot of other things to worry about than say Guardians going into Energy at Epcot. I'm not saying he's not aware and I'm not saying he shouldn't also be held accountable. I said he should in my post, but people blame him for *everything*. I'm not defending the man AT ALL, lol. Please don't think that.
 

eddie104

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I've said certain things reflect on him. I just think people are too quick to blame him for everything. He's got a lot of other things to worry about than say Guardians going into Energy at Epcot. I'm not saying he's not aware and I'm not saying he shouldn't also be held accountable. I said he should in my post, but people blame him for *everything*. I'm not defending the man AT ALL, lol. Please don't think that.
I agree people are always looking for a scapegoat but in reality it’s probably multiple people involved not just one.
 
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