Iger rumored to extend his term as CEO

ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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SorcererMC said:
My feeling exactly. Iger flat-out said that they are risk-averse re: creative content development. I see that as a problem because a company that is not willing to take *some* risk, creatively and strategically, will likely not have strong future performance growth (rather, diminishing returns). Wall St is shifting away from acquisition towards more organic growth...in order to do that TWDC needs to develop new capabilities based on their core competencies ie creative content with respect to the studios and parks. It begs the question, if Iger's management culture is conducive to that, for the short-term or long-term. (I'm thinking it's not, but remains to be seen).
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Now it seems Iger and company is playing not to lose rather than to WIN and that strategy always ends in disaster, GotG and Deadpool were a huge risk but they were unqualified successes, Now it looks like we will get Toy Story 4-10 as part of the 'de risking' process. Iger who at Disney made 'creativity' a four letter word unless it's in the context of accounting.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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CJR said:
It's opening in 2019. There's a lot that goes into it.

1. The construction timetable is right (started in 2016, ready to open in fall of 2019).
2. Now that it's announced for 2019, shareholders will pretty much demand this. SWL is more financially meaningful to DHS than Avatar is to DAK (as you said cabanas, but even more so merch, merch, food, beverages, merch).
3. It'll serve as a promotional engine with Episode IX, out that May (EDIT: wouldn't it be fitting though if IX just got pushed back to a December release).
4. Just to toss it out there, they also don't want TSL to be a dead end for too long. The moment SWL opens, it will take a huge weight off TSL, which will be super crowded with people moving in and out from single entry/exit unless they route people through an opening into the current Pixar Place (EDIT: but even then, they'll still have to go through that bottle neck around OMD).

The excuse to keep Iger around at this point actually could very well be around this. Before it was to see Shanghai through, now, to see Star Wars through. Really, SW, as it is today, is his baby now.
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Since SWL is now getting the budget ax on both coasts I expect it to underwhelm fans and then Disney will really be between a rock and a hard place
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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rael ramone said:
SWL being targeted at 2019 could have a lot to do with ego.....and a lot to do with the 'cabanas' they are wanting to put into the 'experience'.... then again, saying SWL is opening in 2019 in the swamps may be the same as them saying that PUSH isn't going anywhere...

ESPN is the biggest fish in their pond, by far.... and it's been run irresponsibly.

And I'm not convinced that Marvel is the slam dunk that it's widely considered to be... because that purchase came at a price... and that price is now Old Man Ike holding a huge stake in $DIS... His influence in the future could more than nullify the good to the bottom line that purchasing Marvel was to the bottom line... like beautiful mahogany paneling that turns out to have termites...
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Perlmutter is waiting for a shoe to drop at TWDC like a huge tentpole failing and then you are gonna see a battle for leadership, Of course Perlmutter is the one who drove MARVEL's fortunes through the floor the first time round so NOBODY wanted them and you could have bought them for a used Pinto and some gas cards because everyone else in Hollywood took a look at Marvel and passed on them. Disney way overpaid for MARVEL relative to the market at the time. But the Big payday for the MARVEL crowd was more about Iger's ego than realistic valuation of the Marvel assets.
 
HMF

HMF

Well-Known Member
ford91exploder said:
No Iger's ego IS the elephant in the room, I keep wondering when Iger tries to change the name of TWDC so that Disney becomes merely a 'BRAND' and not the name of the company.
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Uh, Hasn't that already happened?
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SorcererMC

SorcererMC

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ford91exploder said:
Now it seems Iger and company is playing not to lose rather than to WIN and that strategy always ends in disaster, GotG and Deadpool were a huge risk but they were unqualified successes, Now it looks like we will get Toy Story 4-10 as part of the 'de risking' process. Iger who at Disney made 'creativity' a four letter word unless it's in the context of accounting.
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Not to mention the live-action remakes of the animated films (which are fine for 'what they are'; but to me that is a bit 'uninspired'/boring).

I think they are positioned to take some risk...if they are re-inventing Marvel and SW to appeal to teen/adult audiences, why not with animation? They have the capability - consider the Paperman short or the sequence in Frozen where Anna is in the hallway/ art gallery. They have captured the mainstream audience. Stability or 'steady state' was good for 2008+, but I think it's time for something fresh. I think they could push the envelope, but perhaps they lack the will, creative vision, or culture that supports that sort of innovation.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
SorcererMC said:
Not to mention the live-action remakes of the animated films (which are fine for 'what they are'; but to me that is a bit 'uninspired'/boring).

I think they are positioned to take some risk...if they are re-inventing Marvel and SW to appeal to teen/adult audiences, why not with animation? They have the capability - consider the Paperman short or the sequence in Frozen where Anna is in the hallway/ art gallery. They have captured the mainstream audience. Stability or 'steady state' was good for 2008+, but I think it's time for something fresh. I think they could push the envelope, but perhaps they lack the will, creative vision, or culture that supports that sort of innovation.
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Iger has created a culture which reduces creativity to a four letter word. They don't trust thier home grown products like Frozen. Only purchased IP is deemed good.

The culture is described as poisonous so is it any surprise that Disney has lost both the skill and culture to create new innovative IP.
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
ford91exploder said:
Iger has created a culture which reduces creativity to a four letter word. They don't trust thier home grown products like Frozen. Only purchased IP is deemed good.

The culture is described as poisonous so is it any surprise that Disney has lost both the skill and culture to create new innovative IP.
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Hey, that's twice you've used my "Iger has turned creativity into a four-letter word" statement. I knew I should have copyrighted and trademarked that... :cautious: :D

Another Iger legacy - "De-risk" movies by using purchased IP as much as possible rather than come up with original content and story. Then, merchandise the hell out of the purchased IP to milk as much $$$ as possible from it.
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
HMF said:
Uh, Hasn't that already happened?
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Sad, and true. Iger and his henchmen want the sheep... err... guests... to know as little about Walt Disney as possible. The more they know, the more they will likely expect from The Weatherman and his ilk. Then their "cost-containment" and up-charge-for-everything and constant price increase policies start looking more and more obnoxious and less and less appealing to the guests they treat like walking ATM's.

We need to make sure that people never forget about the man who started this company with a mouse.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
HauntedPirate said:
Hey, that's twice you've used my "Iger has turned creativity into a four-letter word" statement. I knew I should have copyrighted and trademarked that... :cautious: :D

Another Iger legacy - "De-risk" movies by using purchased IP as much as possible rather than come up with original content and story. Then, merchandise the hell out of the purchased IP to milk as much $$$ as possible from it.
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It's very good and accurately describes Today's Disney. Next time I'll add (c) @HauntedPirate
 

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