Iger on CNBC this afternoon ...

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WDW1974 said:
The Mickey shorts are a result of the fact that Mickey (wait, til you see the hate I get on this one) is slightly more relevant than Oswald these days. Most kids only know him as a foamhead at 'Disney' or a corporate symbol.

And make no mistake, Disney is desperate to make him relevant again ... but they have to do it slowly. If they put out a Mickey feature tomorrow, they know it would bomb as much as a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles feature or even (with all the Bronys) a My Little Pony film and that would harm the company/BRAND in a huge way.

This is step one in trying to make Mickey relevant again ... because hs simply isn't.
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I think that's one thing they are certainly doing correctly. But we mustn't forget they are the reason why Mickey is no longer relevant as a character.

Edit: I want Oswald to appear as well... I think that would be a neat thing... Having both relevant
 
jt04

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nc_disneyfreak said:
ok so dont kill me on here as im just a regular ole' joe who happens to love WDW....but im dying to find out how the WDW1974 and jt04 "fued" started lol...ive been trying to get some good info on this DTD expansion as well as some other "behind the scenes" knowledge and I keep reading these back and forth messages from you two...
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I don't think the mods will let that happen. It is a just a yin and yang dynamic.
 
articos

articos

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Genie of the Lamp said:
Yeah I heard him mention International when dealing with fixing the visa policy and the Brazilian, Russian, Indian, and Chinese markets that love all things Disney. I didn't know about the Mickey shorts till now but thanks for telling me that it's old news and got worked up for nothing. At least they're making the effort to platform Mickey in a more effective way. I didn't really care for the Oz promo trailers, but I must say they definitely know how to advertise/market the crap out of their films which given the size of their company/company resources they should easily be able to do so one would think.
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I think most people missed the Mickey short film announcement originally, so it's new to you and a lot of other people. :)
 
WDW1974

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jt04 said:
I can always tell when you are about to materialize because you are always proceeded by a band of negative trolls who (oddly enough :rolleyes:) post rarely but as a well coordinated unit.
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Really? Who are you calling trolls, JT? ... And while I have a real life and real work and couldn't spend the day on MAGIC, did you not expect that I'd return when I could and post comments on today's developments? ...

jt04 said:
This new DTD is a good plan. You should never doubt me.
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That's your opinion. I'll wait and let things develop ... so far it's been much ado about plans we've all known about ... now, when I hear that the delay was because Disney is working out a deal with Simon or Westfield or Taubman to run the whole mall, then maybe I'll say it was interesting ... or when they say Nordstrom is taking over DQ, I'll do likewise ... or when I hear that there will be an entrance from I-4, they'll get my attention.

Today, they said absolutely nothing that I didn't already know (same as most people who read here).

I do find the delay interesting as hell (it was NOT weather-related, know that for certain) ... as do I the fact that Burbank feels this is so important that Staggs was sent in and WDW media relations was kept on the sidelines for the most part (leaks coming from CP, anyone?)
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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nc_disneyfreak said:
ok so dont kill me on here as im just a regular ole' joe who happens to love WDW....but im dying to find out how the WDW1974 and jt04 "fued" started lol...ive been trying to get some good info on this DTD expansion as well as some other "behind the scenes" knowledge and I keep reading these back and forth messages from you two...
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He has taken a strong liking (picture a puppy or fanboi humping your leg) to me since I joined (some 10,000 or so 'likes' ago!) here and he basically makes stuff up and tosses it out as fact. ... He either loves Iger/TDO/Disney or hates them depending on the day and whether they've done something to offend his personal belief system. I tend to miss him when he disppears because at least you know what you're gonna get.
 
jt04

jt04

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WDW1974 said:
Really? Who are you calling trolls, JT? ... And while I have a real life and real work and couldn't spend the day on MAGIC, did you not expect that I'd return when I could and post comments on today's developments? ...



That's your opinion. I'll wait and let things develop ... so far it's been much ado about plans we've all known about ... now, when I hear that the delay was because Disney is working out a deal with Simon or Westfield or Taubman to run the whole mall, then maybe I'll say it was interesting ... or when they say Nordstrom is taking over DQ, I'll do likewise ... or when I hear that there will be an entrance from I-4, they'll get my attention.

Today, they said absolutely nothing that I didn't already know (same as most people who read here).

I do find the delay interesting as hell (it was NOT weather-related, know that for certain) ... as do I the fact that Burbank feels this is so important that Staggs was sent in and WDW media relations was kept on the sidelines for the most part (leaks coming from CP, anyone?)
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I do agree that the delay is interesting. I was thinking that this is the kind of thing that became commonplace in Eisner's later years. If I had to guess I would guess some local malls or maybe even Uni is stirring up the politicians. Just a guess though.
 
PhotoDave219

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nc_disneyfreak said:
ok so dont kill me on here as im just a regular ole' joe who happens to love WDW....but im dying to find out how the WDW1974 and jt04 "fued" started lol...ive been trying to get some good info on this DTD expansion as well as some other "behind the scenes" knowledge and I keep reading these back and forth messages from you two...
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There are certain things you don't want to know.

For Example, "So Dave, exactly how many lady members of WDWMagic have you dated?"

There are things you just dont need answers to.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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jt04 said:
I do agree that the delay is interesting. I was thinking that this is the kind of thing that became commonplace in Eisner's later years. If I had to guess I would guess some local malls or maybe even Uni is stirring up the politicians. Just a guess though.
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I doubt that UNI has any role, but anything's possible if Disney is going after taxpayer $$$.

But it's all very odd and telling.

George Kalogridis absolutely needs to be seen in public as WDW's Prez or folks are going to start all sorts of rumors. His absence has been incredibly strange. I also can't help but wonder why Staggs is overseeing such a 'relatively' minor project unless there are other reasons for his visit. I've sent out some missives and am waiting to, hopefully, hear something of substance back.
 
jt04

jt04

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WDW1974 said:
He has taken a strong liking (picture a puppy or fanboi humping your leg) to me since I joined (some 10,000 or so 'likes' ago!) here and he basically makes stuff up and tosses it out as fact. ... He either loves Iger/TDO/Disney or hates them depending on the day and whether they've done something to offend his personal belief system. I tend to miss him when he disppears because at least you know what you're gonna get.
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Postings like this are always a 'tell' that you skipped your meds for that day. Listen to your team of doctors and follow their instructions please.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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PhotoDave219 said:
There are certain things you don't want to know.

For Example, "So Dave, exactly how many lady members of WDWMagic have you dated?"

There are things you just dont need answers to.
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I've never thought about that question until now ... so Dave, how many???!?!?!?!
 
jt04

jt04

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WDW1974 said:
I doubt that UNI has any role, but anything's possible if Disney is going after taxpayer $$$.

But it's all very odd and telling.

George Kalogridis absolutely needs to be seen in public as WDW's Prez or folks are going to start all sorts of rumors. His absence has been incredibly strange. I also can't help but wonder why Staggs is overseeing such a 'relatively' minor project unless there are other reasons for his visit. I've sent out some missives and am waiting to, hopefully, hear something of substance back.
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There are definitely internal politics going on. Avatar ripped the scab right off the wound.
 
WDWFanDave

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WDW1974 said:
The Mickey shorts are a result of the fact that Mickey (wait, til you see the hate I get on this one) is slightly more relevant than Oswald these days. Most kids only know him as a foamhead at 'Disney' or a corporate symbol.

And make no mistake, Disney is desperate to make him relevant again ... but they have to do it slowly. If they put out a Mickey feature tomorrow, they know it would bomb as much as a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles feature or even (with all the Bronys) a My Little Pony film and that would harm the company/BRAND in a huge way.

This is step one in trying to make Mickey relevant again ... because hs simply isn't.
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I think they've been working on this for a bit though...Disney Channel has Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, and this seems as though its a progression to bring those kiddos that have been watching for the last however many years (my DD6 included), into the next phase for Mickey and the gang. Rebuilding characters relevance...one My Magic Moment at a time.

:)
 
lazyboy97o

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jt04 said:
I do agree that the delay is interesting. I was thinking that this is the kind of thing that became commonplace in Eisner's later years. If I had to guess I would guess some local malls or maybe even Uni is stirring up the politicians. Just a guess though.
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Pray tell how politicians from the City or County would delay a project totally within the Improvement District.
 

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