Iger: Disney will dial back on park discounts in latter part of 2010

TURKEY

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The top executive at the Walt Disney Co. said this morning that he expects his company’s theme parks will scale back discounting during the second half of 2010, though he acknowledged that “we don’t know when we will essentially be able to turn it off.”

Disney Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger noted that the promotions Disney’s parks are currently offering – including another buy-four-get-seven hotel-night offer at Walt Disney World – are slightly smaller than deals they offered earlier this year, when the global recession was at its worst.

“We’ll be able to continue to dial that back over the latter part of 2010,” Iger told financial analysts at the UBC Media and Telecommunications Conference in New York.

Since the beginning of this year, Disney has been using a series of deep discounts at its theme-park resorts – on hotel rooms, food, tickets and more – to keep attendance afloat amid an overall slump in travel and tourism. While the company has relied on promotions to prop up attendance during previous downturns, it has not before used them for such an extended period of time.

The strategy has kept Disney World and Disneyland in Anaheim, Calif., full, which Disney executives say helps ensure continued word-of-mouth marketing and leads to return trips. But it has eroded margins: Operating profit at Walt Disney Parks and Resorts sank 25 percent during the company’s 2009 fiscal year, which concluded Oct. 3.

Some analysts have expressed concern that the strategy may lead to a permanent expectation of discounts among Disney customers, which would make it difficult to return to full prices without harming attendance. Some also worry that the promotions have simply cannibalized future attendance by luring people who were planning to take trips later.

Iger, as he has before, dismissed both concerns. He said, for example, the promotions have attracted new customers who would not otherwise have visited a Disney park.

“We’re not concerned about weaning ourselves and the marketplace of the discounts,” Iger said.

Still, Iger declined to predict when Disney might be able to stop discounting entirely. Tourism-industry experts have been watching for indications that Disney is preparing to pull back its promotions as a likely sign of improvement in the broader travel market.

Iger said it is difficult to make long-term predictions right now because travelers are not planning trips far in advance. “Visibility well into the year is very limited,” he said.

“It’s just not a market that lends itself to long-term commitments or early buying,” Iger said.





http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2009...ack-on-park-discounts-in-latter-part-of-2010/
 

WDW Vacationer

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Huh... we got a flyer under our door at SS,saying that if we booked a trip before we left a a deluxe,it was 50% off! There were blackouts for vacation weeks and stuff. The offer was all of 2010.
 

MousDad

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Some analysts have expressed concern that the strategy may lead to a permanent expectation of discounts among Disney customers, which would make it difficult to return to full prices without harming attendance. Some also worry that the promotions have simply cannibalized future attendance by luring people who were planning to take trips later.

Iger, as he has before, dismissed both concerns. He said, for example, the promotions have attracted new customers who would not otherwise have visited a Disney park.

Enjoying that jungle cruise down de Nile, Bob?
 

EPCOT Explorer

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Now,where's that trophy....:lookaroun

winner.jpg
 

sweetpee_1993

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I have no idea what percentage of WDW &/or DL's guests are repeat people or fans like us. I think of any guests we will be the ones expecting the discounts. I don't know what percentage of the guests would really be in the group of people expecting a discount & miffed when it doesn't happen.

Personally, without the discounts I'm more likely to stay in less-expensive resorts vs. deluxe. Also, I would be much more likely to look to other destinations (non-theme park related) for our family adventures.

I did notice some of the discounts rolling out a little later this year than last. I wonder if the Disney Gods were testing the water? :shrug:
 

RSoxNo1

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The problem with all these deep discounts is that if they're not stopped soon, then the discounted rates becomes the standard rates, and Disney doesn't want that either. They've done a decent job of mixing and matching the offers (Buy 4 Get 3 free, Buy 5 get 2 free, Free Dining, etc), but ultimately they're going to have to have a stretch of full price rooms, and then take the attendance hit. The problem is, they don't have any new offerings coming in the second half of 2010 to help fray this likely drop in attendance.
 

wdwmomof3

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I remember for the first few trips that we took, we never got a discount. Now that I have found out where to go to find them and found out other things that they do offer, it makes it hard to pay full price. While I would go anyway, the discounts do help and it is easier to talk DH into another trip.
 

TURKEY

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Maybe this will bring back Value Seasons in September of yester year, when you actually saw a reduction in attendance


If anything, you might see more people go then (that can) as that would be the lowest rates.

Without a discount, I'm looking at the cheapest price available to go. I know there are some folks that can't go then (teachers), but if I'm looking at a $1000-2000 difference in prices, I'm going at the cheaper time. I'd even pull my kids (if I had them) out of school rather than pay the huge markups for summer or Christmas.
 

raven

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Maybe this will bring back Value Seasons in September of yester year, when you actually saw a reduction in attendance

:sohappy: Ah, those were the days. Many of my trips back in the '90's were in September when the longest wait was to catch a bus.
 

WDW1974

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Just a brief note from WDW ... the ONLY reason anyone is here largely (other than a few convention groups and the Pop Warner kids) is because WDW has become a discount product. People expect them.

Disney is filling its rooms, but at a very large long term cost to the brand.

Oh, and to call EPCOT's holiday decor sparse would be a discredit to the word 'sparse' ... and MK sure didn't look great Monday ... hell, there wasn't even a Christmas tree, but I'm assuming that was because of parade taping.
 

CaptainMichael

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Speaking of people expecting discounts. I was in line at LSU today to get Captial One Bowl tickets (which is played in Orlando) and a girl was complaining that there were no discounts during that time. I almost said something abot New Years being the busiest time of the year, but I figured it wasn't worth it.
 

JeffH

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Discounts...it's all evens out already.

I figure that the recent HUGE hikes in prices throughout the parks have easily made up for any discounts being offered. If you haven't noticed, prices have been jacked up (especially food/snack costs...about 20%) all over WDW.
I doubt that when they get rid of all the discounts that they will bring THOSE prices back down to normal (reasonable)...but they will hope that we will "get use to" THOSE hiked prices.
Not to mention all the money they are now making on the illusion that the Dining plan somehow saves you money (you might break even if you manage to eat at the most expensive places and manage to use up all your credits) and is clogging up all the restaurants (even the Crystal Palace is booked up weeks in advance when you used to be able to book just hours in advance)
Fortunately we have had more than our share of visits to all of the character buffets (dozens and dozens) and have been settling for off-site meals now where/when we used to ALWAYS eat on-site...hell, Tasha is fine with cooking a TV dinner in the room, and it's a nice change of pace to simply sit down at Peco's Bill's for lunch.
Sure we celebrated my birthday/Thanksgiving on 11/28 with a nice dinner at the Liberty Tree Tavern.
And fortunately, as a result of all the Dining Plan people who make reservations then fail to show up, walk-ins are easier, so we did manage to walk into the Crystal Palace for lunch as well. that weekend.
Otherwise, aside from a birthday celebration at Chef Mickey's in Sept, we've avoid all these restaurants that we used to frequent nightly.

and it doesn't seem that the non-Disney restaurants in Downtown Disney have been affected so far, so we will continue to frequent The Rainforest Cafe, T-Rex and Planet Hollywood.
Example Crystal Palace lunch for 2 last year = $43.33, last month $51.58
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Just a brief note from WDW ... the ONLY reason anyone is here largely (other than a few convention groups and the Pop Warner kids) is because WDW has become a discount product. People expect them.

Disney is filling its rooms, but at a very large long term cost to the brand.

Oh, and to call EPCOT's holiday decor sparse would be a discredit to the word 'sparse' ... and MK sure didn't look great Monday ... hell, there wasn't even a Christmas tree, but I'm assuming that was because of parade taping.

Agreed on the EP holiday decorations being sparse. I thought hunting for them was part of the Kim Possible adventures or something.....

I know Thanksgiving was busy, but I also wonder just how many rooms are getting filled when I get an email offer for a discount at the Deluxe resorts the week from Christmas to New Year's. I know it's the Deluxe resorts and all, but still, that particular week? :shrug:
 

Animaniac93-98

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Annual Passholder discounts for January are 45% off. No amount of "HUGE" price hikes can save Disney from losing money. Same for the 30/35/40% deal offered to everyone.
 

EPCOT Explorer

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Just a brief note from WDW ... the ONLY reason anyone is here largely (other than a few convention groups and the Pop Warner kids) is because WDW has become a discount product. People expect them.

Disney is filling its rooms, but at a very large long term cost to the brand.

Oh, and to call EPCOT's holiday decor sparse would be a discredit to the word 'sparse' ... and MK sure didn't look great Monday ... hell, there wasn't even a Christmas tree, but I'm assuming that was because of parade taping.

So can we expect a drop in attendance? I would love that.:)


Fire, meet your place under the collective TDO assus.:lol::lookaroun
 

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