Iconic Purple Directional Signs Being Replaced

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
The old signs were designed for readability, and thus safety. That's the most important thing, and it worked. In a lot of people's minds these "clean, plain, and boring" signs have taken that a step backwards. I don't see that as an improvement.
This makes it sound as if the new ones aren’t designed for readability. They absolutely are, and typographically speaking, they’re potentially superior as they lean on the massive pre-existing body of research done for other highway signage around the country. The new ones are simply part of a blue-and-gold rebrand that a lot of folks find more boring and less fun than the previous system from the 90s.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I find all this road sign talk so drab and boring…

If I drive…it would potentially eliminate ALL my drinking…
#DEALKILLER

Driving is so 20th century 🙄
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
No they weren't. They were designed for shtick.

Disagree.


"Sussman/Prejza’s task was to develop a vehicular signing system that would be unique in spirit, clean, easy to follow, and capable of being expanded as the area continues to grow."
 

bpiper

Well-Known Member
The new ones are much clearer at night. It's hard to describe (or to photograph), but the reflective properties are much better.

Of course they are clearer, they are new. The reflective coating has worn off of the old ones.

Road signs are reflective thanks to the glass beads, microprisms, or encapsulated lenses present on reflective sheeting. These materials bend light, so it comes back to the source, making road signs highly visible at night to drivers with their headlights on. There are three different grades of this sheeting: engineer, high-intensity, and diamond.

Engineer Grade Reflective Signs

Engineer grade signs use glass beads or prismatic optical technology to reflect light and have the lowest prices. Engineer grade signs have less visibility, usually around 400 to 600 feet, making them only suitable for non-critical uses. You will often see these signs in areas like parking lots and garages.

High-Intensity Grade Reflective Signs

High-intensity signs use cube-corner or prismatic material to offer superior reflectivity. Most cities use these for their traffic signs. You will also see high-intensity grade reflective signs used for barricades and construction zones. They provide better visibility than engineer grade signs and can be seen from around 800 to 1,200 feet away. They work well in areas where street lights can affect reflectivity.

Diamond Grade Reflective Signs

Diamond grade signs have the highest visibility, around 1,300 to 1,600 feet. They are used in areas where high visibility is critical, including interstate highways. These are the best option for cluttered urban environments that have a lot of lights and other signs.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
It’s crazy. I struggle to believe they don’t have a sign shop on premises that could churn these signs out. Signs get damaged and need to be replaced. They couldn’t just make all of the new signs first and then install them in close succession?
Things should start to pick up now. The only reason the others were installed so early was because of the addition of galactic starcruiser.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Things should start to pick up now. The only reason the others were installed so early was because of the addition of galactic starcruiser.
I do a lot of DOT consulting. They could have opened their own sign shop over by LBV…cranked out all the signs…and had them up in about a week.

Penndot could have pulled that off.

Not that it’s a big deal…but they certainly aren’t in a hurry here
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
I do a lot of DOT consulting. They could have opened their own sign shop over by LBV…cranked out all the signs…and had them up in about a week.

Penndot could have pulled that off.

Not that it’s a big deal…but they certainly aren’t in a hurry here
They already have their own sign shop.

I never said they were in a hurry.

Just that it should go faster from this point. The two that went up before were outliers. They were fabricated and installed as part of the galactic starcruiser project. Since the new design was coming it made sense for them to be done in the new style at that time.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
The old signs were designed for readability,
They may have *attempted* visibility, but the desire to color-fy everything led to putting a yellow-orange lettering on a red background. That is way down the list of optimal visibility.

While I'm OK with green or blue or purple backgrounds on informational signs. The use of danger-red for directional information is a big no-no.

Also, serif?

At least the arrow is very visible!! In fact, look at the next sign down the road. The arrow is super-visible!! An arrow to what? Who knows, but at least we know to go forward!!

This is a poster child for what *not* to do.

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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
So we've got threads with armchair imagineering.
Now we've got threads with people pretending to know how to design traffic signs.

This should be entertaining.

Also the purple signs were ugly. They actively ruined all my vacations.
…the 11 pm last call at Victoria falls, Bellevue, territory lounge and gurgling suitcase ruins mine 😡
 

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