I got a free night for complining about Pop Warner

[kcnole]

Maybe I should call then. I emailed and complained. All that I got back was a letter saying they were sorry.

 

[draybook]

Convenient?

We went in September of 08 and had no problems. There were no cheerleaders, Pop Warner kids or Brazilians. This time we had a bad time and all of the above were there. 1+1=2.

And to the CM, maybe you didn't notice it but those of us that were walking around the parks all day sure did. And the parents that you saw with the groups were just as bad if not worse than the kids.

 

[the-reason14]

No offense, but a free room or two to Disney means nothing. Disney now has you eatting out of their palm. This means now when you come back you have to spend money or tickets, food, souvenirs, all that jazz. The room IMO isn't that great of a deal. I personally would have asked for them to credit your stay.

Better than nothing.

 

[Disneykidder]

What resort was it? Remind me never to stay there. So sorry you experienced such immature, horrible behavior from girls who went representing their schools and should have had some sort of manners.

We went during July in 06 and experienced horrible baseball teams from other countries. I never did complain, though. Maybe I should have.

I suppose it is presumptious of me to think anyone, whether a team/squad/whatever, would have some sort of decorum when entering a place.

 

[wdwmomof3]

As a Disney cast member, I have to highly disagree with this thread. At the parks they were fine. Every time one of them came to where I was working they were in groups no bigger then 7 and had a minimum of 1 parent if not 2. :shrug:

I am glad that you didn't notice them being bad. I also read that they were fine in the parks, but the way that they were at POR was bad; throwing beer cans (parents), smoking & being loud very late at night. I can't deal with that. It's a concern to me because I really wanted to go the week that they are going to be there next year, and we stay at POR where some of them stay & where the complaint that I read came from. I may just take a chance anyway since I have not seen a report of them being bad at the parks but if we run into that I may not get DH back down there. :hammer:

 

[Horizons19]

I am glad that you didn't notice them being bad. I also read that they were fine in the parks, but the way that they were at POR was bad; throwing beer cans (parents), smoking & being loud very late at night. I can't deal with that. It's a concern to me because I really wanted to go the week that they are going to be there next year, and we stay at POR where some of them stay & where the complaint that I read came from. I may just take a chance anyway since I have not seen a report of them being bad at the parks but if we run into that I may not get DH back down there. :hammer:

We were there at POR 12/6 - 18 and I can back you up they were quite bad. We could not go near the food court for the first week, they littered the beautiful grounds with all their plates, utensils and cups, they would hangout past midnight outside talking really loud ( we could hear them from the building across from ours), and we even had two big teenage boys from the group bang on our door at midnight one night. I jumped up to see who it was and practically tripped over my sons pull out bed to look through the peep hole at them. I was really scared but luckily they moved along when we did not open up. On the bus one time a girl in a group of girls threw something at a little 3 year old boy's head. The girls thought it was so funny and were laughing. The parents said nothing as they looked on.

I originally thought they would only be at the values but then found out on this site they would be at POR too. I called Disney before we left and the 1st CM would not comfirm who was going to be there. The second time I called I got a CM that was more than happy to tell me ALL about PW. She told me that they were booked at every value except Pop and EVERY Mod! She said that every year it grows more and more and since there are SO many groups there that is why this last time they were at every Mod. She told me how they trashed one of the Mods last year and cost Disney a bundle and all about the fight that one year.

I personally will never go during PW again. There is no excuse for their behavior. I was a teen once (not that long ago) and went with my HS chorus on various trips (Candlelight, etc.) and we always acted like proper and respectful young people.

Oh, and I will be writing Disney a letter.

 

[captainkidd]

As a Disney cast member, I have to highly disagree with this thread. At the parks they were fine. Every time one of them came to where I was working they were in groups no bigger then 7 and had a minimum of 1 parent if not 2. :shrug:

As a Disney Resort Guest I think it's simply that as CM's, no one wants to get their hands dirty. I assure you, not all of these horror stories are made up. I love the All Star Resorts but refuse to stay anymore just because of these groups.

 

[Figment632]

Why should DIsney have to give you anything? You post on these boards so you should know enough not to go during that time.

 

[Master Yoda]

Why should DIsney have to give you anything? You post on these boards so you should know enough not to go during that time.

As always you are entitled to your opinion but I have to say it....You opinion is incredibly wrong.

Complaining about the crowds on NYE and expecting to compensate you would be wrong. Complaining about a problem that is well know to Disney but they continue to ignore at the expense of their other guests deserves compensation. The only way the Pop Warner situation will get fixed is if the compensation to guests effected by it exceeds the profit made from Pop Warner.

 

[Figment632]

As always you are entitled to your opinion but I have to say it....You opinion is incredibly wrong.

Complaining about the crowds on NYE and expecting to compensate you would be wrong. Complaining about a problem that is well know to Disney but they continue to ignore at the expense of their other guests deserves compensation. The only way the Pop Warner situation will get fixed is if the compensation to guests effected by it exceeds the profit made from Pop Warner.

The annoying cheerleaders are no different than the Brazillian tour groups. That is what she is complaing about or did I misunderstand her?

 

[Master Yoda]

The annoying cheerleaders are no different than the Brazillian tour groups. That is what she is complaing about or did I misunderstand her?

Yes and you are correct and they are no different that the Brazilian Tour groups and Disney should be compensating guests for their actions as well. Disney makes a boat load of money off of them and turns a blind eye to the issues they cause because of it.

 

[Figment632]

Yes and you are correct and they are no different that the Brazilian Tour groups and Disney should be compensating guests for their actions as well. Disney makes a boat load of money off of them and turns a blind eye to the issues they cause because of it.

So should they deny these groups entry to the parks?

 

[Master Yoda]

So should they deny these groups entry to the parks?

In some cases I would say yes. The bottom line is there has to be consequences for your actions. These large groups have a reputations for causing problems and will continue to do so as long as they get away with it. I applauded Disney for kicking two Pop Warner teams off property a couple of years ago and if action like that was taken a bit more frequently I believe the problem would diminish.

 

[Figment632]

In some cases I would say yes. The bottom line is there has to be consequences for your actions. These large groups have a reputations for causing problems and will continue to do so as long as they get away with it. I applauded Disney for kicking two Pop Warner teams off property a couple of years ago and if action like that was taken a bit more frequently I believe the problem would diminish.

This is fine and I have no problem with it but you can't punish everyone for their actions. You can't ban all tour groups or all Pop Warner teams. It is ok for Disney to kick them out but I don't agree with giving out a free night because of annoying cheerleaders.

If this is the case where is my free night for all the scooters, or the bus system, or million other annoying things in WDW. Disney can't giver everyone who gets annoyed by something a free night.

 

[rsoxguy]

This is fine and I have no problem with it but you can't punish everyone for their actions. You can't ban all tour groups or all Pop Warner teams. It is ok for Disney to kick them out but I don't agree with giving out a free night because of annoying cheerleaders.

If this is the case where is my free night for all the scooters, or the bus system, or million other annoying things in WDW. Disney can't giver everyone who gets annoyed by something a free night.

I believe that there is a stark difference between scooters and groups of people that purposely and willfully misbehave in a public setting. Disney is well aware of the groups that cause trouble, yet they consistently take money from these groups with a disregard toward those of us who spend our own money and have our Disney experience affected negatively by these groups. Correcting rather than banning would be a good step in the right direction.

 

[Figment632]

I believe that there is a stark difference between scooters and groups of people that purposely and willfully misbehave in a public setting. Disney is well aware of the groups that cause trouble, yet they consistently take money from these groups with a disregard toward those of us who spend our own money and have our Disney experience affected negatively by these groups. Correcting rather than banning would be a good step in the right direction.

Disney is a business and just like mine I don't turn away money. If it is that bad Disney should throw them out, take down the individual peoples names and not allow those people to return. There is a no fly list so there should be and im sure there is a banned list. If it is that terrible don't go that time of year.

Why does everyone feel they deserve a handout?

 

[bgraham34]

Master Yoda you are very wise with what you are saying. There is no reason why you should not complain about those large groups. They cause more headaches than anything else at the parks. Crowds are one thing but these groups are just rude.

 

[rsoxguy]

Disney is a business and just like mine I don't turn away money. If it is that bad Disney should throw them out, take down the individual peoples names and not allow those people to return. There is a no fly list so there should be and im sure there is a banned list. If it is that terrible don't go that time of year.

Why does everyone feel they deserve a handout?

I'm afraid that you have misunderstood my post. I do not agree with the concept of compensation because of the behavior of these groups. However, making money off of some, while ruining the time spent by others who have paid money is simply bad business. If you develop a bad reputation for housing bad guests, and everyone knows that you allow them to run roughshod, then you eventually lose customers.

 

[Figment632]

Master Yoda you are very wise with what you are saying. There is no reason why you should not complain about those large groups. They cause more headaches than anything else at the parks. Crowds are one thing but these groups are just rude.

Disney is not being rude so why should they have to pay for other rude guests?

 

[Figment632]

I'm afraid that you have misunderstood my post. I do not agree with the concept of compensation because of the behavior of these groups. However, making money off of some, while ruining the time spent by others who have paid money is simply bad business. If you develop a bad reputation for housing bad guests, and everyone knows that you allow them to run roughshod, then you eventually lose customers.

I have no love for these groups but you can't shut them all out. The way Disney looks at it is say you are a family of four. You are paying for 4 people these groups could have 100 people. Why turn away 100 people just to make 4 happy?