graphite1326
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But you are since most electricity is created by natural gas.We absolutely aren't. We just don't want to pay for gas.
But you are since most electricity is created by natural gas.We absolutely aren't. We just don't want to pay for gas.
Then what are the electric BMW drivers? BMW has also embraced electric and hybrids.IME, it's Tesla drivers that do that. They're the "BMW drivers" of the EV world. Only once have I seen another type of EV doing it (a Ford Mustang Mach-E).
But you are since most electricity is created by natural gas.
Then what are the electric BMW drivers? BMW has also embraced electric and hybrids.
In 2006, I bought my first hybrid vehicle. Since EVs were much rarer at that time, a lot of 'eco friendly encouragement' parking spots were labeled "Hybrid/ Electric Vehicles". As time went on, EV charging poles were installed in some of these locations - at which point, I stopped parking in these spaces - especially since my hybrid is a mid size SUV. However, I still often see a Prius (or something similar) parking in these spots - local zoo, art musuem, parking decks, etc. I figure it must be maddening to the EV crowd.For the past few weekends, I noticed something that annoys me about the EV spots at Disney.
Tesla drivers who show up early and take the spots without charging, just to get a front row spot without paying extra for it.
And neither security, nor parking, nor guest relations do a thing about it.
Yep.I figure it must be maddening to the EV crowd.
Those are PHEVs and EREVs - which are electric cars first that have a gas engine for backup, either to power the wheels (PHEV) or charge the battery in real time (EREV/some PHEV)I think 'hybrid' has morphed from meaning a car that 'mostly uses gas for power but also pulls on electric' to 'a car that mostly uses electric but also pulls on gas backup when needed' - but I must be in the minority!
Yep.
Those are PHEVs and EREVs - which are electric cars first that have a gas engine for backup, either to power the wheels (PHEV) or charge the battery in real time (EREV/some PHEV)
I know, I’m simplifying it. The proper phrase would be range extender, but as a former Volt owner, I called it my backup because I knew I wouldn’t have to worry.For a plug-in hybrid (PHEV) I wouldn't call the gas engine a "backup". A Prius Prime for example can drive up to 25 miles/40 km on battery and then the gas engine kicks in.
They're not meant to be used strictly as an electric vehicle. People can go months or years without refilling the gas tank, but that's not necessarily typical. In fact, it's important to burn gas some of the time because after a year or so it should be cycled out.
My daily commute and any errands can be completed solely in electric mode, but anything beyond that I use gas as expected. Saying the gas engine is a backup is a bit misleading in terms of stating how these cars are meant to be used, IMO.
LOL that's not trueFair. The electricity it generates for my car to run is still used far more efficiently than any internal combustion engine vehicle. On average, ICE cars waste 80% of the fuel they use, vs 20% wasted in EVs.
Hi.LOL that's not true
80% nah you need to go back and talk to the engineers.Hi.
While I went to extremes to demonstrate the differences, given the MANY different ICE and EV powertrains out there, the point still stands - EV powertrains are far more efficient than ICE powertrains.
Best regards,
An automotive designer who works every day with powertrain engineers.
Which 80% troubles you? The inefficiency in ICE or the efficiency of EV?80% nah you need to go back and talk to the engineers.
Can't answer the question so this is what you come up with?Which 80% troubles you? The inefficiency in ICE or the efficiency of EV?
Can’t argue well, so arguing to argue?Can't answer the question so this is what you come up with?
Well the OP did say they didn't want to be inconvenienced and wanted to park THEIR car in that spot while they went to the park. Forget anyone else that wants to charge a vehicle.It seems one of the larger problems is people will get to the park, plug into the charger, then head to the park for the day. That takes up a charging spot that someone else could use. It doesn’t take all day to charge the EV.
Snagged an Epcot spot! It only took me arriving in the middle of the week to get it.
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