How California theme parks will enforce out-of-state visitors ban - OCR/SCNG

LukaLand

LukaLand

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I'll get my 2nd shot on Monday and have a reservation at Disneyland on June 16th, one day after the ban supposedly ends on out of state tourists. I'm from Washington. Had I known that being vaccinated would exempt me from the out of state rule, I would have planned to be there April 30th. As it is I'm set to fly home from a few days in the area on April 29.
 
freebird72

freebird72

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el_super said:
Did you have to check a box to indicate you were from California?
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I bought my tickets on 4/15 through an online seller (aRes travel), and I did have to check a box indicating all members of the party lived in CA and no more than 3 households. The warning about CA residency is still on their website.
 

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ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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Sea World has updated their page, removing the option to provide a negative test taken within 72 hours, but still stating a Covid vaccine suffices. This is directly in line with the CA travel advisory and likely what CDPH has instructed them to say. It also excludes anyone under age 16...

I don’t personally see Disney adopting a policy excluding children and arguably discriminatory against those who can’t receive vaccine. So we wait.
 
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SoCalDisneyLover

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Darkbeer1 said:
Maybe the same reason Parents lie about their kids age, claiming they are under 3 when they are 3, 4 or 5.
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That's to save a few bucks on a meal or admission, not to circumnavigate measures put in place to prevent the spread of a deadly virus. Something which actually is a public health issue rather than frugal parenting.
 
Darkbeer1

Darkbeer1

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SoCalDisneyLover said:
That's to save a few bucks on a meal or admission, not to circumnavigate measures put in place to prevent the spread of a deadly virus. Something which actually is a public health issue rather than frugal parenting.
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Please tell me what preventing Out of State Visitors to Theme Parks does to stop the spread in California?

Out of State visitors are allowed in the state now, and can rent a Hotel, go to restaurants, use public transit including planes, boats, trains, subways, buses, visit Natural Parks, Beaches, Zoo, Museums, etc.
 
SoCalDisneyLover

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LukaLand said:
Because according to the state of California, as of June 15th anyone is welcome in California. Thus, I feel visiting on June 16th that the requirement will be lifted by DL and I won't be falsifying anything.
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While in all likelihood the June 15 date will hold, Governor Newsom did qualify it by saying it depended upon continued vaccination progress, and meeting the established criteria for the metrics. The situation is improving, but nobody knows with 100% certainty what will be in 2 months time. Perhaps he should have waited before throwing that date out there, because now people are going to hold him to it, even if the #'s start to change for some reason over the coming weeks.

The out of state thing also depends upon how other states are behaving. If things are good in CA as of 6/15, but the virus is surging elsewhere, it would be premature to allow people to flow in without restriction. Perhaps that's where a vaccination requirement would be useful. If they allowed out of state visitors into the parks, and those visitors are all vaccinated, they don't have to worry about someone bringing in a variant or strain from another state, and causing problems here in CA.
 
el_super

el_super

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Darkbeer1 said:
Maybe the same reason Parents lie about their kids age, claiming they are under 3 when they are 3, 4 or 5.
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Yeah well... That's pretty terrible too.

LukaLand said:
Because according to the state of California, as of June 15th anyone is welcome in California. Thus, I feel visiting on June 16th that the requirement will be lifted by DL and I won't be falsifying anything.
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It might be, and it might not. Either way you still lied to Disney.

Darkbeer1 said:
Please tell me what preventing Out of State Visitors to Theme Parks does to stop the spread in California?
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You don't think going to Disneyland will encourage additional visits? You think that those who do come for Disneyland will be 100% virus free? You would be wrong if you did.
 
SoCalDisneyLover

SoCalDisneyLover

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Darkbeer1 said:
Please tell me what preventing Out of State Visitors to Theme Parks does to stop the spread in California?

Out of State visitors are allowed in the state now, and can rent a Hotel, go to restaurants, use public transit including plans, boats, trains, subways, buses, visit Natural Parks, Beaches, Zoo, Museums, etc.
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I see your point. I can't say exactly why amusement parks are singled out once other places are allowing people from out of state. That's probably not such a great idea either right now, but that's my opinion that we're not quite there in terms of controlling the virus spread. The reality is, people could be bringing the virus to CA, and then doing all the things you mentioned, which is not going to be helpful. At least until we start approaching herd immunity in CA, and everyone's been able to get the full vaccine dose. That's at least a couple of months away yet.

National Parks, Beaches and even the Zoo, lend themselves more to social distancing than an amusement park, where strangers are close together in ride vehicles, in a small enclosed space (even if only for a short time), and will be walking nearby to many more people than in a big area like a National Park. And Parks and Beaches have not had hardly any restrictions for about the last 10+ months, essentially because they allow for more social distancing, although people don't always follow those rules either, when laying towels down in close proximity to others on the beach.
 
Tamandua

Tamandua

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el_super said:
Yeah well... That's pretty terrible too.



It might be, and it might not. Either way you still lied to Disney.



You don't think going to Disneyland will encourage additional visits? You think that those who do come for Disneyland will be 100% virus free? You would be wrong if you did.
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I'm so glad this doom and gloomer continues to try to squelch people's hope and enjoyment. If you want to huddle in fear in a dark corner, we all support your right to do so. I hear costco is having a sale on giant bubbles. Better safe than sorry, friend.
 
Darkbeer1

Darkbeer1

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One more "white lie" to Disney. The ADA pass abuse that required Disney and other Theme Parks to change how they worked to prevent the massive abuse of the system.

People have lied to Disney for decades.

Much of how Disney responded was to put Guest Satisfaction above being strict on the rules. Anything from the "Ban" on brining in Food and Drink, to not challenge 3/4 year olds, etc.

The State came up with the "Self-Attest" rules, why would Disney ask for more?
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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SoCalDisneyLover said:
I see your point. I can't say exactly why amusement parks are singled out once other places are allowing people from out of state. That's probably not such a great idea either right now, but that's my opinion that we're not quite there in terms of controlling the virus spread. The reality is, people could be bringing the virus to CA, and then doing all the things you mentioned, which is not going to be helpful. At least until we start approaching herd immunity in CA, and everyone's been able to get the full vaccine dose. That's at least a couple of months away yet.

National Parks, Beaches and even the Zoo, lend themselves more to social distancing than an amusement park, where strangers are close together in ride vehicles, in a small enclosed space (even if only for a short time), and will be walking nearby to many more people than in a big area like a National Park. And Parks and Beaches have not had hardly any restrictions for about the last 10+ months, essentially because they allow for more social distancing, although people don't always follow those rules either, when laying towels down in close proximity to others on the beach.
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Indeed, and that is the reason for the 6/15 date. Anyone who wants to be vaccinated in CA can be vaccinated by then.
 
el_super

el_super

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Captn EO said:
At the end of the day someone checked a box on a website. If Disney cared so much about this issue they'd make it more difficult than clicking a mouse on your computer.
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Yeah I get it... To some degree. And it would be silly to think that some amount of fraud wouldn't be occuring, but there definitely has to be some trust built into these systems, because if we accept that by and large, people cant be trusted to respond to requests faithfully, more rules and lockdowns will be necessary.

Trusting people to do the right thing is a good strategy... Until it doesn't work.
 

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