Hollywood Strikes Are Over! - SAG-AFTRA agrees to a deal

[TsWade2]

Hey guys,

I’ve been having anxieties about the Hollywood strike recently and it’s hurting my mental health until I found this article from Hollywood Reporter: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/b...ke-therapist-mental-health-advice-1235518462/ And I’m so glad I read that and maybe try to follow that article’s advice. I think I need to set my appointment to my psychiatrist soon. Anyway, for those of you who have anxieties about the Hollywood strikes, I suggest you read this article or google it to find an article to how to cope during this double strike. Thanks.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

It's the end of Hollywood if AMPTP won't hurry up and make a fair and better contract. But it looks like it's unlikely. Man, I hate being negative!

AMPTP is right. The writers and the actors are being unreasonable. The residuals model doesn't work in a streaming world.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

I haven't read into demands due to not giving a butt about the involved parties. What are actors/writers demanding involving streaming?

 

[TsWade2]

AMPTP is right. The writers and the actors are being unreasonable. The residuals model doesn't work in a streaming world.

Never mind that! I’ve just having an anxiety attack. And I suggest you read this before you have an anxiety attack too: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/b...ke-therapist-mental-health-advice-1235518462/

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I haven't read into demands due to not giving a butt about the involved parties. What are actors/writers demanding involving streaming?

They want a digital-equivalent of Neilsen ratings and to be compensated on viewership.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Never mind that! I’ve just having an anxiety attack. And I suggest you read this before you have an anxiety attack too: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/b...ke-therapist-mental-health-advice-1235518462/

Why would I have an anxiety attack?

 

[TsWade2]

Why would I have an anxiety attack?

I don’t know. I’m just trying to calm things down, but I’m afraid it’s unlikely.

 

[Disney Irish]

They want a digital-equivalent of Neilsen ratings and to be compensated on viewership.

There already is such a thing as Nielsen ratings for streaming, we have a thread on it that tracks the numbers weekly.

Nielsen Streaming Ratings

This topic seems to be popping up in lots of different threads and probably deserves its own on an ongoing basis. It's an interesting data point to discuss the popularity of the streaming landscape and certain series on Disney+ and Hulu. For context, Nielsen has long participated in the TV...

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As for the compensation, in the contract that just expired unless I'm mistaken the residuals kick in 90 days after first release on streaming.

So are we sure this is their gripe, or is there more nuance to it such as they want the residuals to kick in immediately and more visibility into streaming numbers, etc.?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

There already is such a thing as Nielsen ratings for streaming, we have a thread on it that tracks the numbers weekly.

Nielsen Streaming Ratings

This topic seems to be popping up in lots of different threads and probably deserves its own on an ongoing basis. It's an interesting data point to discuss the popularity of the streaming landscape and certain series on Disney+ and Hulu. For context, Nielsen has long participated in the TV...

forums.wdwmagic.com

As for the compensation, in the contract that just expired unless I'm mistaken the residuals kick in 90 days after first release on streaming.

So are we sure this is their gripe, or is there more nuance to it such as they want the residuals to kick in immediately and more visibility into streaming numbers, etc.?

Nielsen's streaming ratings are not close to accurate.

 

[Disney Irish]

Nielsen's streaming ratings are not close to accurate.

So the argument then is for more transparency in the streaming numbers as it related to compensation.

Which as I've been saying in other threads will in my opinion end up legitimatizing streaming in terms of its potential financial viability long term.

It'll be interesting to watch this play out and see if AMPTP caves in on this point.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

in my opinion end up legitimatizing streaming in terms of its potential financial viability long term.

Streaming is not financially viable long term.

It'll be interesting to watch this play out and see if AMPTP caves in on this point.

My understanding is that this is THE sticking point for Netflix in particular. They're not expected to budge on this.

 

[Disney Irish]

Streaming is not financially viable long term.

In your opinion.

My understanding is that this is THE sticking point for Netflix in particular. They're not expected to budge on this.

Netflix releases their own streaming numbers publicly. So not sure why they wouldn't agree to this unless those numbers can't be held up to scrutiny.

 

[TsWade2]

I guess we’ll have to wait until either September and October to end the Hollywood strike, that is, if it’s ever going to end. The AMPTP are so stubborn.

 

[TP2000]

I think they should learn to code.

All kinda’ like the buggy whip manufacturers after the automobile was invented…!!!!!

It is all a bit ironic and rich, isn't it?

One of the best comments I saw in the media a few days ago was... "The Hollywood elites who told blue collar workers being put out of their jobs to learn how to code are now being replaced by people who learned how to code."

 

[donaldtoo]

It is all a bit ironic and rich, isn't it?

One of the best comments I saw in the media a few days ago was... "The Hollywood elites who told blue collar workers being put out of their jobs to learn how to code are now being replaced by people who learned how to code."

Yep, funny how arrogance can come back and bite you on your backside…with a vengeance…!!!

 

[TP2000]

I'm not sure how the Hollywood unions are going to put AI technology back in its box and pretend it doesn't exist. It can, and will, replace human writers and human actors to at least a moderate extent. They've got to figure out how to work with it, not pretend it doesn't exist.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

In your opinion.


Netflix releases their own streaming numbers publicly. So not sure why they wouldn't agree to this unless those numbers can't be held up to scrutiny.

The Netflix Top 10 is not accurate, nor is it meant to be. That's a marketing device.

 

[Disney Irish]

The Netflix Top 10 is not accurate, nor is it meant to be. That's a marketing device.

At least they publicly release them, other streamers including Disney doesn't.

Just like the real box office numbers, which is also heavily guarded by studios, even if there is a bit more transparency doesn't mean it'll be anymore accurate than what Nielsen and Netflix provide today.

 

[TsWade2]

I give up. I guess I'll have to live with it. Because I don't think it'll end anytime soon. Those AMPTP people are so evil! And I doubt Gavin Newsom will fix it. No doom and gloom intended, I'm just being realistic.

 

[brb1006]

Disney's Next Earnings Call is only a few weeks away. This should be very interesting.