Rumor Hollywood insiders say there's growing tension at Disney as CEO Bob Chapek chafes at Bob Iger's 'long goodbye'

Hitchens

Active Member
Mayhem in the Magic Kingdom: Disney ‘Don’t Say Gay’ Walkout Underlines Bob Chapek’s Leadership Crisis
By Brent Lang, Cynthia Littleton

https://variety.com/2022/biz/feature...ay-1235212073/


Disney CEO Bob Chapek is facing a crisis of confidence in his leadership that is fueling an atypical level of turmoil at the top of the world’s largest entertainment company.

Though Chapek’s current employment contract, expiring next February, is expected to be renewed soon, according to sources, his tenure as CEO has been marked by upheaval since he was named to the job in February 2020. Some of the disruption has been far out of his control, such as a global pandemic. But Chapek’s own missteps reflect his tendency to keep counsel with a small group of senior executives rather than solicit wider opinions on key decisions.

“Chapek has had to deal with a series of catastrophes,” notes Peter Newman, the head of NYU’s Tisch School of the Arts’ MBA/MFA program, who observes that Chapek took over the company when COVID was upending the media and theme park businesses. “But many of his wounds have also been self-inflicted. A lot of top-level people in Hollywood know how to be smooth and handle things with finesse, and he has not shown that he has that ability.”

Chapek may not be in trouble with Disney’s board, but he’s in the doghouse with the company’s 200,000-plus employees around the world. Disney’s bungled response to Florida’s effort to pass the “Don’t Say Gay” bill, which would severely restrict public school teachers’ ability to address LGBTQ-related subjects in the classroom, has sparked a revolt among many employees. The anger over the company’s failure to stand up to the latest politically motivated effort to demonize the LGBTQ community also brought to the surface resentment over the company’s lack of non-heterosexual-centered characters and storylines.

All of this was on display outside Disney studio gates in Burbank on March 22 when a small group of protesters gathered to coincide with the planned employee walkout here and in Florida. The sight of protesters outside Disney has only served to make Hollywood nostalgic for Chapek’s predecessor, Bob Iger, who has taken on the nickname “Saint Bob” in the nearly three months since he retired from his role as Disney executive chairman at the end of last year.

Chapek was already grappling with tough comparisons to Iger, who set the standard as an entertainment CEO for being polished in public, daring in business, artistically engaging with talent and a visionary on the future of media. Iger was also unafraid to take positions on social and political issues he believed in, whereas Chapek initially chose to stay mum on Florida’s Don’t Say Gay bill, which backfired badly inside Disney.

Chapek sought to quell the uprising over the Florida bill by apologizing (“I let you down,” he told employees on March 11) and announcing the company would pause donations to politicians in Florida.

This past weekend, CNBC published a detailed report on the turbulence inside the Magic Kingdom and the frayed relationship between Chapek and Iger, which only served to make many inside and outside Disney feel wistful for the way that Iger was always seen as the steady hand at the helm.

NYU’s Newman notes that under Chapek, Disney allowed a spat with Scarlett Johansson over the actor’s compensation for “Black Widow” to erupt into a lawsuit in a messy way that did little to endear him to Hollywood’s talent community.

Some of the issues, experts say, may have to do with the fact that Chapek came up through Disney’s home entertainment and consumer products divisions before transitioning to run the company’s theme parks. Those are major profit centers, but they are not the most public-facing parts of the company, nor are they creative-driven.

“Chapek rose up through the ranks as an operations guy and an outstanding one at that,” says Gene Del Vecchio, adjunct professor of marketing at the USC Marshall School of Business. “But when he’s had to put out fires as CEO, he’s stumbled on the political aspects of the job.”

For now, Disney insiders see no credible scenario where Chapek is ousted as CEO anytime soon. The complexity of running the entertainment giant would be daunting for any outsider, which is one of the reasons Chapek got the CEO nod after a yearslong bake-off with other top execs.

Moreover, Disney’s board of directors is full of fellow C-suite executives from public companies — such as General Motors CEO Mary Barra and Lululemon chief Calvin McDonald — who have weathered their own PR crises and scandals. Buoyed by the surprisingly strong earnings in the final quarter of 2021 (Disney’s fiscal Q1) that Disney delivered in February, Chapek’s stock remains high in the boardroom.

But the board also can’t ignore forever internal morale issues and concerns that Disney’s stature may have diminished in the creative community.

If Chapek is granted more time, he will need to start finding a part of the portfolio to reimagine in a way that cements his legacy. Michael Eisner, who ran Disney from 1984 to 2005, was credited with revitalizing its animation studio. Iger bet big on megabucks acquisitions of Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm and 21st Century Fox that gave the company a formidable arsenal of intellectual property, and then pushed Disney to reorganize its entire media business to compete with Netflix as a streaming giant.

So how can Chapek make his presence felt?

“The question remains: Is Bob Chapek a visionary, who can articulate a path forward for Disney that is big and bold, or is he a caretaker, who manages what he inherits well but can’t determine what’s the next big thing?” says Del Vecchio. “That has yet to be determined.”
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I don’t think anyone anywhere on Wall Street…or rodeo drive…can sell Slaphead as a “visionary” in any fashion with a straight face.

I think Iger - and the boards - “plan”….if they had one…was to show record profits and prices with chapek as evidence of their can’t fail brand and iger’s brilliant strategic positioning

“A trained circus dog can run this…thank you, Bob!!”
 

TikibirdLand

Well-Known Member
Mayhem in the Magic Kingdom: Disney ‘Don’t Say Gay’ Walkout Underlines Bob Chapek’s Leadership Crisis
By Brent Lang, Cynthia Littleton

https://variety.com/2022/biz/feature...ay-1235212073/


Disney CEO Bob Chapek is facing a crisis of confidence in his leadership that is fueling an atypical level of turmoil at the top of the world’s largest entertainment company.

Though Chapek’s current employment contract, expiring next February, is expected to be renewed soon, according to sources, his tenure as CEO has been marked by upheaval since he was named to the job in February 2020. Some of the disruption has been far out of his control, such as a global pandemic. But Chapek’s own missteps reflect his tendency to keep counsel with a small group of senior executives rather than solicit wider opinions on key decisions.

“Chapek has had to deal with a series of catastrophes,” notes Peter Newman, the head of NYU’s Tisch School of the Arts’ MBA/MFA program, who observes that Chapek took over the company when COVID was upending the media and theme park businesses. “But many of his wounds have also been self-inflicted. A lot of top-level people in Hollywood know how to be smooth and handle things with finesse, and he has not shown that he has that ability.”

Chapek may not be in trouble with Disney’s board, but he’s in the doghouse with the company’s 200,000-plus employees around the world. Disney’s bungled response to Florida’s effort to pass the “Don’t Say Gay” bill, which would severely restrict public school teachers’ ability to address LGBTQ-related subjects in the classroom, has sparked a revolt among many employees. The anger over the company’s failure to stand up to the latest politically motivated effort to demonize the LGBTQ community also brought to the surface resentment over the company’s lack of non-heterosexual-centered characters and storylines.

All of this was on display outside Disney studio gates in Burbank on March 22 when a small group of protesters gathered to coincide with the planned employee walkout here and in Florida. The sight of protesters outside Disney has only served to make Hollywood nostalgic for Chapek’s predecessor, Bob Iger, who has taken on the nickname “Saint Bob” in the nearly three months since he retired from his role as Disney executive chairman at the end of last year.

Chapek was already grappling with tough comparisons to Iger, who set the standard as an entertainment CEO for being polished in public, daring in business, artistically engaging with talent and a visionary on the future of media. Iger was also unafraid to take positions on social and political issues he believed in, whereas Chapek initially chose to stay mum on Florida’s Don’t Say Gay bill, which backfired badly inside Disney.

Chapek sought to quell the uprising over the Florida bill by apologizing (“I let you down,” he told employees on March 11) and announcing the company would pause donations to politicians in Florida.

This past weekend, CNBC published a detailed report on the turbulence inside the Magic Kingdom and the frayed relationship between Chapek and Iger, which only served to make many inside and outside Disney feel wistful for the way that Iger was always seen as the steady hand at the helm.

NYU’s Newman notes that under Chapek, Disney allowed a spat with Scarlett Johansson over the actor’s compensation for “Black Widow” to erupt into a lawsuit in a messy way that did little to endear him to Hollywood’s talent community.

Some of the issues, experts say, may have to do with the fact that Chapek came up through Disney’s home entertainment and consumer products divisions before transitioning to run the company’s theme parks. Those are major profit centers, but they are not the most public-facing parts of the company, nor are they creative-driven.

“Chapek rose up through the ranks as an operations guy and an outstanding one at that,” says Gene Del Vecchio, adjunct professor of marketing at the USC Marshall School of Business. “But when he’s had to put out fires as CEO, he’s stumbled on the political aspects of the job.”

For now, Disney insiders see no credible scenario where Chapek is ousted as CEO anytime soon. The complexity of running the entertainment giant would be daunting for any outsider, which is one of the reasons Chapek got the CEO nod after a yearslong bake-off with other top execs.

Moreover, Disney’s board of directors is full of fellow C-suite executives from public companies — such as General Motors CEO Mary Barra and Lululemon chief Calvin McDonald — who have weathered their own PR crises and scandals. Buoyed by the surprisingly strong earnings in the final quarter of 2021 (Disney’s fiscal Q1) that Disney delivered in February, Chapek’s stock remains high in the boardroom.

But the board also can’t ignore forever internal morale issues and concerns that Disney’s stature may have diminished in the creative community.

If Chapek is granted more time, he will need to start finding a part of the portfolio to reimagine in a way that cements his legacy. Michael Eisner, who ran Disney from 1984 to 2005, was credited with revitalizing its animation studio. Iger bet big on megabucks acquisitions of Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm and 21st Century Fox that gave the company a formidable arsenal of intellectual property, and then pushed Disney to reorganize its entire media business to compete with Netflix as a streaming giant.

So how can Chapek make his presence felt?

“The question remains: Is Bob Chapek a visionary, who can articulate a path forward for Disney that is big and bold, or is he a caretaker, who manages what he inherits well but can’t determine what’s the next big thing?” says Del Vecchio. “That has yet to be determined.”
Local reporters were saying that there was more media covering the "walkout" than participants. I think that says something about the real issue here. Yeah, Chapek and company has been making some really bad decisions of late. But, the real problem, is he's not AT THE HELM. Pixar's agenda pushing of Red and Lightyear kinda proves who's got hold of the rudder. And, icebergs are are in sight.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
When they announced the PATF remake of SM, I thought it felt reactive and a way to quell some of the online chorus as to the insensitivity of the source material. As the months have passed with nary any movement on the project, it was starting to feel like one of those many things that was announced, but never ultimately acted upon.

I actually think this recent stuff with the Florida bill makes it much more likely they follow through with the SM -> PATF conversion.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Local reporters were saying that there was more media covering the "walkout" than participants. I think that says something about the real issue here. Yeah, Chapek and company has been making some really bad decisions of late. But, the real problem, is he's not AT THE HELM. Pixar's agenda pushing of Red and Lightyear kinda proves who's got hold of the rudder. And, icebergs are are in sight.
I have no doubt the coverage is overblown for Disney…but it’s still a big longterm problem for them.

Want something to watch? Business in June. I hear it’s light
 

Brer Oswald

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure it's even that -- I think it's that there's such gigantic differences between video game genres. There are millions and millions of people who play video games but only play sports games, only play shooting games, etc.; there's a lot of completely separate communities of game players that do not play the same games as other groups.

Of course that's true of film too to an extent, but there are more fundamental similarities between different film genres than there are between at least some video game genres. A football video game and a first person puzzle game are essentially entirely different things.
I think there’s a generation gap too. There are tons of people that grew up in a time before video games. But as time passes, the number of people that grew up around video games increase, so their importance increases.

I think that theme park fans underestimate the longevity of video game IP. I grew up playing Mario. Kids today are growing up playing Mario. And people a little older than me grew up playing Mario as well. I don’t see this changing anytime soon.

Compare this to several film franchises. Nobody is going to have the same connection to Harry Potter as the kids that grew up with it in the early 2000s. Same with Star Wars in the early 80s/late 70s, and MCU in the 2010s. They can reboot these franchises as many times they want, but it will never be as impactful as the first time.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
I think that theme park fans underestimate the longevity of video game IP. I grew up playing Mario. Kids today are growing up playing Mario. And people a little older than me grew up playing Mario as well. I don’t see this changing anytime soon.

I agree with this, but I also think it only applies to Nintendo. There really aren't any non-Nintendo IP that have had that kind of longevity/popularity -- Sonic is the only other one I can think of, but new Sonic games don't sell that much.

I'm not sure that will ever happen again, considering games have moved away using those kind of mascots in general, much less using them across genres (again, except Nintendo). There are some other relatively big franchises, but they either have different characters/settings in each new entry or they have long gaps between releases.

I feel like Nintendo was the biggest (if not only) prize for video game IP at the moment, although that could certainly change in the future.
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
Local reporters were saying that there was more media covering the "walkout" than participants. I think that says something about the real issue here. Yeah, Chapek and company has been making some really bad decisions of late. But, the real problem, is he's not AT THE HELM. Pixar's agenda pushing of Red and Lightyear kinda proves who's got hold of the rudder. And, icebergs are are in sight.
Just wondering what you mean about the agenda pushing of Turning Red? I understand you're referring to the same sex kiss in terms of Lightyear (and I'll steer clear of giving my thoughts about whether I agree with the characterisation), but I didn't see any particular agenda behind Turning Red unless it was to tell more diverse stories.
 

pdude81

Well-Known Member
to be honest, i was thinking this myself - this "paint iger as a god as soon as he leaves the company and play up every misstep chapek takes" angle certainly seems planned, though i don't know if i'm conspiracy-minded enough to believe it
You could write it off as a coincidence once or twice, but someone has an agenda here. Specifically at THR
 

Brer Oswald

Well-Known Member
I agree with this, but I also think it only applies to Nintendo. There really aren't any non-Nintendo IP that have had that kind of longevity/popularity -- Sonic is the only other one I can think of, but new Sonic games don't sell that much.

I'm not sure that will ever happen again, considering games have moved away using those kind of mascots in general, much less using them across genres (again, except Nintendo). There are some other relatively big franchises, but they either have different characters/settings in each new entry or they have long gaps between releases.

I feel like Nintendo was the biggest (if not only) prize for video game IP at the moment, although that could certainly change in the future.
Final Fantasy, Mega Man, Pac-Man, and Street Fighter come to mind. Nintendo is certainly the big prize. But I don’t think it would be foolish for Disney to look at Sonic and Final Fantasy in particular (the latter of which would allow them to tie in their own Kingdom Hearts franchise with ease). And not everything has to be a big land. Could just be an attraction or two.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Final Fantasy, Mega Man, Pac-Man, and Street Fighter come to mind. Nintendo is certainly the big prize. But I don’t think it would be foolish for Disney to look at Sonic and Final Fantasy in particular (the latter of which would allow them to tie in their own Kingdom Hearts franchise with ease). And not everything has to be a big land. Could just be an attraction or two.

All of those have the same problems I mentioned before -- they're relatively well known, but I feel like Disney would laugh at the idea of paying a license fee for those properties because they just aren't large enough. I think the most recent Street Fighter sold around 6 million copies, which is very good for a game, but it's not remotely close to being enough to make Disney bat an eye. Final Fantasy has a separate problem in that the games are, for the most part, completely independent of one another. There are a few similarities but you'd either have to base it on a specific game in the series or make something that just has the Final Fantasy name but no real connection with any games (I guess they could include chocobos), which seems pointless to me.

It would probably make more sense for someone like Six Flags or Cedar Fair to license those properties. I don't think they're even close to being big enough for Disney.
 

Brer Oswald

Well-Known Member
All of those have the same problems I mentioned before -- they're relatively well known, but I feel like Disney would laugh at the idea of paying a license fee for those properties because they just aren't large enough. I think the most recent Street Fighter sold around 6 million copies, which is very good for a game, but it's not remotely close to being enough to make Disney bat an eye. Final Fantasy has a separate problem in that the games are, for the most part, completely independent of one another. There are a few similarities but you'd either have to base it on a specific game in the series or make something that just has the Final Fantasy name but no real connection with any games (I guess they could include chocobos), which seems pointless to me.

It would probably make more sense for someone like Six Flags or Cedar Fair to license those properties. I don't think they're even close to being big enough for Disney.
If they did Final Fantasy, 7 would be the obvious choice. A super popular game in its own right that has spawned various spin-offs and sequels. Cloud and Sephiroth are some of the most popular video game characters around. It would be a hit in TDL
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
I'm a huge Sega fan, but that company peaked a long time ago and is a shell of its former self.
You aren't wrong about that. I'm as big a sega fanboy as there is. Heck, I made the choice to buy a Master system over the NES when they came out. I still think image and and how recognizable something is, are important. So while sega is a shell of its former self. They still have some highly recognizable ips.
I agree with this, but I also think it only applies to Nintendo. There really aren't any non-Nintendo IP that have had that kind of longevity/popularity -- Sonic is the only other one I can think of, but new Sonic games don't sell that much.
I think you are too focused on how many copies a game sells. Do people know the game or the characters? Does it break through the marketing barriers? Games like sonic, Minecraft, Pac-Man, halo... all have that. And we've all agreed, at least I think we have, that Nintendo is the obvious top dog for this. But there are plenty of games that people recognize that are part of pop culture. No one thinks that Disney should all of a sudden develop a Popful mail attraction. But it's a train they should get on for the future.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
When they announced the PATF remake of SM, I thought it felt reactive and a way to quell some of the online chorus as to the insensitivity of the source material. As the months have passed with nary any movement on the project, it was starting to feel like one of those many things that was announced, but never ultimately acted upon.

I actually think this recent stuff with the Florida bill makes it much more likely they follow through with the SM -> PATF conversion.
Even without the current 'climate,' PatF was on track. Not so much in "movement on the project," but, it kept being mentioned. Execs don't keep mentioning it if it isn't still in the works.

And traces of the source material as they appear elsewhere kept being removed.
 

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