Rumor Hollywood insiders say there's growing tension at Disney as CEO Bob Chapek chafes at Bob Iger's 'long goodbye'

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That has nothing to do with your claim that WDW can't use Doctor Strange.

You're clearly not thinking clearly today.

Anyway, I'm done trying to convince you that you were wrong. Everyone reading along knows that your claim is false. That's good enough for me, so, yes, we're done. Have a good day.

We have our ups and downs…but you kinda feed off those…because box office mojo lied to you on episode 8. Sorry

Doctor strange may be available…but what would be the point? Things can make sense without chapek doing a webinar to discuss it. You’re far too literal.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The question you asked was not proof you were right. You're still wrong. Try to understand how facts work.

What makes sense to build in Orlando using the fringes they have available? Simple. What is your opinion?

Maybe doctor strange in imagination? I’m actually not totally opposed to that

 

[bcoachable]

You know what movie series would make a great "Game", that could then later be developed into a new ride??
Pirates of the Caribbean
If they would only develop a game based off of this franchise, it could really pay off for them big time in the long run...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You know what movie series would make a great "Game", that could then later be developed into a new ride??
Pirates of the Caribbean
If they would only develop a game based off of this franchise, it could really pay off for them big time in the long run...

I think that’s tapped out

I’m sure they’ll reboot it the next time they’re on the skids…but it’s tapped out

 

[Tha Realest]

To be fair, at this point Bob I. figured he would be president, or, at least, an ambassador to China or a European country.

As it is, his third act is...selling Xbox avatar NFTs.

I don't think you can discount the psychological issues that occur when someone who was the center of their universe now no longer as their calls returned as quickly or are viewed as yesterday's news.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I definitely think you overestimate the IP universal has…but they can contract the next big thing and Disney really cannot.

Without wizarding…they don’t bring in Cameron…

Imagine how bad wdw would be on regurgitation now?? And they tend to underdeliver when they do build.

I suggest people read the backstory of Disney’s proposal to Rowling’s…it was there’s for the taking and they couldn’t be bothered to realize the potential. The success of MCU…which started with nothing to do with Disney…gave them the hubris to misread LFL too…

For all his back patting…look and see what IPs iger left in better shape when he left than when he started?

I’d say 1

Maybe I’m looking too far into the future. I look at the top grossing media franchises. Pokémon is number 1 by a pretty large margin. Super Mario is number 6, and is sure to grow once the movie comes out. Harry Potter and Spider-Man are not far behind.

On the flip side, Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, and Star Wars are 3, 4 and 5. But like you said, how many of Disney’s IP have been left better as a result of Iger’s tenure? The one is the MCU, not any of their top 3. Pooh in particular has been completely forgotten by the company.

Universal really has to go big with Pokémon. If they nail it though, I think it’s game set match for “IP Wars”.

 

[el_super]

Universal really has to go big with Pokémon. If they nail it though, I think it’s game set match for “IP Wars”.

I really can't see it. How would they translate Pokemon into a theme park environment in a way that's compelling, interactive and completely different from anything already offered. You can already play PokemonGo at Disneyland (and mostly for free).

 

[pdude81]

I really can't see it. How would they translate Pokemon into a theme park environment in a way that's compelling, interactive and completely different from anything already offered. You can already play PokemonGo at Disneyland (and mostly for free).

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

 

[UNCgolf]

Maybe I’m looking too far into the future. I look at the top grossing media franchises. Pokémon is number 1 by a pretty large margin. Super Mario is number 6, and is sure to grow once the movie comes out. Harry Potter and Spider-Man are not far behind.

On the flip side, Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, and Star Wars are 3, 4 and 5. But like you said, how many of Disney’s IP have been left better as a result of Iger’s tenure? The one is the MCU, not any of their top 3. Pooh in particular has been completely forgotten by the company.

Universal really has to go big with Pokémon. If they nail it though, I think it’s game set match for “IP Wars”.

Pokemon is a bit weird because it's split into so many different fan bases. There are people who only play the video games, and there are people who only care about the cartoon, and there are people who only play the card game. And then there are people who just buy Pikachu merch because they think it's cute (Hello Kitty gets a bunch of this money too) and don't actually care about Pokemon at all outside of that; certainly not to where they'd care even a little bit about a Pokemon land at a theme park.

I get the feeling it would not be as valuable to theme parks as something like Harry Potter. It's obviously large enough to have value, though.

 

[brb1006]

Video games and theme parks aren't a great mix.

Generally speaking, a theme park land or ride based on a video game will fall flat for the same reason video game movies typically fall flat. If it's a straight remake of the game, what's the point? And if it's something different, does it really have any draw for fans of the game? Plus, video games are already an interactive medium.

Nintendo is really an outlier with the type of games/IP they have available for theme park use; they're a good fit in a way most video game companies/IPs are not. There are a few others that would work relatively well, but I don't think anything Disney could acquire would be worth it over other options.

They were really dumb to close down their own game development, though. That was just giving away money.

I miss Disney Interactive so much!

 

[flynnibus]

When did the topic of Bob Iger become a imagineer thread?

 

[lazyboy97o]

When did the topic of Bob Iger become a imagineer thread?

Because we can only hope to aspire to the creative greatness of adding a few more trees over there. It fills us with unceasing inspiration.

 

[Mmoore29]

On the flip side, Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, and Star Wars are 3, 4 and 5. But like you said, how many of Disney’s IP have been left better as a result of Iger’s tenure? The one is the MCU, not any of their top 3. Pooh in particular has been completely forgotten by the company.

Star Wars is miles better and left much better under Iger's tenure. It is the definition of "evergreen."

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Star Wars is miles better and left much better under Iger's tenure. It is the definition of "evergreen."

What? Que?

 

[bcoachable]

Star Wars is miles better and left much better under Iger's tenure. It is the definition of "evergreen."

Bob Iger comes back to turn muppets ThreeeeD into an Endor Land rumor confirmed

 

[Touchdown]

I really can't see it. How would they translate Pokemon into a theme park environment in a way that's compelling, interactive and completely different from anything already offered. You can already play PokemonGo at Disneyland (and mostly for free).

Here’s my thought. For the main E ticket, you have Pokémon Snap Safari. Board a slow moving safari like ride armed with your camera as you glide past Pokémon (animatronics and some screens) climaxing in a cave that will contain a Charazard, Onyx and Mew Two. Attached to the area, you’ll also have the Pokémon Stadium show, a special effect tour de force where you will watch a “live” Pokémon tournament. As side places, the town will have a themed eatery, a Professor’s home where young trainers can receive their first Pokémon (like Olivanders) and a Pokémon first aid station.

 

[TikibirdLand]

To be fair, at this point Bob I. figured he would be president, or, at least, an ambassador to China or a European country.

As it is, his third act is...selling Xbox avatar NFTs.

I don't think you can discount the psychological issues that occur when someone who was the center of their universe now no longer as their calls returned as quickly or are viewed as yesterday's news.

Maybe this will cheer him up:

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

People do realize that Pokémon already has a partnership with universal studios in Japan, correct? Much easier tie in to universal 3rd gate in Orlando as well…

Just saying.

 

[RSoxNo1]

That's kind of my point, though.

If the source material becomes irrelevant, then it's no longer a draw -- that makes licensing it a waste of money over other options (or something original). I've played video games my whole life and I can think of very few that would work remotely well in a theme park, and they generally wouldn't work well enough to make it worth the effort. There are some exceptions (as I said, Nintendo has the largest library of good options), but there just aren't many other options that would actually move the needle in terms of attracting guests.

We've long said on here that the IP driven attractions are primarily for a year one marketing push. If the attraction is lousy, word will get out and the demand will drop.

Lilo and Stitch fans weren't booking vacations to WDW based solely on the attraction.

 

[erasure fan1]

Video games and theme parks aren't a great mix.

Generally speaking, a theme park land or ride based on a video game will fall flat for the same reason video game movies typically fall flat. If it's a straight remake of the game, what's the point? And if it's something different, does it really have any draw for fans of the game? Plus, video games are already an interactive medium.

The reason video game movies flop is generally they stray to far from the source material. They try to use the name, then do what they want thinking the fans will just go along with it. Video game movies are similar to comic book movies before the first X-Men movie. I still think once they get the formula down, it will be off to the races.

It really doesn't matter if games are interactive in my opinion. A lot of people love video games and they love rides. And to get the chance to become part of your favorite game, is something a lot of kids, and adults, will love. Something like Minecraft will get people super excited, just like Pokemon, Mario or Sonic... So in my opinion, video games and rides are a perfect mix.

You know what movie series would make a great "Game", that could then later be developed into a new ride??
Pirates of the Caribbean
If they would only develop a game based off of this franchise, it could really pay off for them big time in the long run...

Disney had an open world pirates of the Caribbean game in development. And they cancelled it. It was a really good concept. You could probably go back and see my rant when they announced the cancellation, I was kinda ticked. Lol