HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

IMDREW

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Now this is very unfortunate..

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Jones14

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Did we ever get more info on the sleigh coaster? It’s hard to tell from pictures whether it’s shaping up to be the park’s Barnstormer+ or something more substantial.
 

616.1314

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In the Parks
Yes
that is a weird design choice. Does anyone know if it was always planned or is it a covid one way change?
I think this is related to some fire safety regulations in Hong Kong and has nothing to do with COVID.
Tragic af. I hope WDI/HKDL will cope with the authorities and find a better solution.
 

lazyboy97o

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that is a weird design choice. Does anyone know if it was always planned or is it a covid one way change?
These are standard exit signs. If they were one way signs then they would say something on the back.
I think this is related to some fire safety regulations in Hong Kong and has nothing to do with COVID.
Tragic af. I hope WDI/HKDL will cope with the authorities and find a better solution.
The time to come up with a better solution is during the design process. The Codes of Practice are publicly available and lay out the requirements for egress signage.
 

PiratesMansion

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Although it's nice to see progress on the exterior, I've heard that the opening date of Arendelle has been pushed back to 2023.
Was their a source that confirmed this?

Personally, if any park should just soldier on anyway with expansion regardless of the past year it should be HKDL. Clearly what was there pre-pandemic is not enough to get people to care, and a new castle all by itself probably won't cut it either. Didn't Frozen basically continue its construction throughout the whole pandemic, so the thing is almost done anyway?

I guess I can somewhat understand wanting to wait for business to build back up, but then business at HKDL was exceptionally bad for all of 2019 too. Will the business build back up without them just opening up their new areas? I'm not entirely convinced.
 

J4546

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Now that HK has decided not to renew the land contracts allowing for a second park to be built on the land beside HKDL, I dont know how much more investment Disney wants to put into HK. If you look on google maps you can see the area that was supposed to be an expansion park is being rapidly developed now. So...that kinda sucks. Maybe things will change in the future though who knows.
 

PiratesMansion

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Now that HK has decided not to renew the land contracts allowing for a second park to be built on the land beside HKDL, I dont know how much more investment Disney wants to put into HK. If you look on google maps you can see the area that was supposed to be an expansion park is being rapidly developed now. So...that kinda sucks. Maybe things will change in the future though who knows.
But Disney's not the only operating partner, and I don't get the sense that the government wants to totally throw in the towel either.

They had to give up the land, but otherwise their expansion has been and remains aggressive considering the park's financials, and that's all due to their operating partner.
 

J4546

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Yeah, youre right. FInancialy it doesnt make sense at all. I just wish HK would get a 2nd park like the HKDS idea on ideal buildouts, that would make HK a major Disney tourist destination. Not that HK isnt a major tourist destination now of course.
 

RandySavage

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I've never found a satisfactory answer as to exactly when & why WDI/Disney stopped manufacturing customized Exit Signs (with a casing and, as importantly, Font created for each location). It was a trademark "Disney Difference" for decades. Easiest guess is cost-savings. A terrible shame, if so.

Exit signs, one of the Achilles heels of much sought-after industry goal of "immersiveness", are far more prevalent today than in past eras. With ever greater 'safety' regulations, e.g. the new high/low queue signs or placing signs in essentially already-exited/outdoor areas like this HK castle porch or the Haunted Mansion queue awning in MK. Instead of being major detractors from Good Show, exit signs - the outstanding Tower of Terror signs at DHS come to mind - can enhance show.

For a while now Disney's exit signs are mostly just off-the-shelf signs from Target, or in best case, color matched and placed in a prop (e.g. Millennium Falcon).

What was the last exit sign Disney did that had a font customized for its locale?
 

Jones14

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To my understanding, custom fonts for exit signs are not allowed in many countries anymore, so that is probably why newer attractions (like Falcon) simply encase them in themed boxes.
 

lazyboy97o

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To my understanding, custom fonts for exit signs are not allowed in many countries anymore, so that is probably why newer attractions (like Falcon) simply encase them in themed boxes.
Custom fonts are allowed in the US and as far as I can tell by checking the Codes of Practice, Hong Kong as well. The size and color of the text is regulated but not any particular font.
 

Jones14

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Custom fonts are allowed in the US and as far as I can tell by checking the Codes of Practice, Hong Kong as well. The size and color of the text is regulated but not any particular font.
Hong Kong may not have an equivalent law, but in the US exit signs have to be in sans serif font to be considered ADA compliant.
 

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