HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

[Animaniac93-98]

We can talk about what it lack’s definitely but I don’t think that alone is fair considering its ride count falls into a similar range to Shanghai and Paris. Like people do seem to forget that Paris as the core Disneyland isn’t actually that ride dense (though it’s absolutely gorgeous) and Shanghai is rather top heavy and lacks filler attractions

All three are in the 18-20 ride count falling short of the 29 of Tokyo and the almost 40 of the stateside parks but both Shanghai and Paris pull in 13-18 million while 10 still feels like a pipe dream for HK

I can definitely accept that Paris is a much more balanced and overall better experience for the average Disney guest who isn’t experienced in Disney park design but does Shanghai really do enough “more” than HK to justify its almost double attendance

Paris may only have 21 rides, but it has an usually high number of walk through attractions and diversions, much like HKDL , which helps to fill out the day. HKDL has a strong entertainment and seasonal overlay line up too.

But Parc Disneyland only has 4 flat rides total, compared to HKDL's 7 (high for a castle park).

I think Martin's list of major additions is correct, but I do feel like Toy Story Land brings down the rest of the park because it doesn't have anything substantial as far as experiences or capacity is concerned.

 

[BrianLo]

Paris may only have 21 rides, but it has an usually high number of walk through attractions and diversions, much like HKDL , which helps to fill out the day. HKDL has a strong entertainment and seasonal overlay line up too.

But Parc Disneyland only has 4 flat rides total, compared to HKDL's 7 (high for a castle park).

I think Martin's list of major additions is correct, but I do feel like Toy Story Land brings down the rest of the park because it doesn't have anything substantial as far as experiences or capacity is concerned.

I feel like this is the classic lost in translation on ride counting metric. One WDW is unfairly held to a standard of.

In extremes you have World Showcase. Which certainly warrants more than an hour of time that formerly two, now three rides would suggest. The same is true of DAK and DHS to lesser extent.

I still think there is more to Shanghai Disney overall than HKDL. Size in general can be a time sink. I still don’t know why they at least haven’t slapped a world of Disney and Starbucks at bear minimum outside HKDL.

 

[Supersnow84]

Size as a time consumer is definitely valid, you can do an entire HK land in the time it takes you to walk through one of Shanghai’s lands but purely from an in park experience I’d say HK has more. Shanghai is very very light on things that aren’t pure rides to do

Shanghai’s downtown Disney moves the needle alot but does anyone really consider Shanghai a destination resort, hell it’s debatable that even Paris is given how bad way Disney studios is

 

[BrianLo]

does anyone really consider Shanghai a destination resort, hell it’s debatable that even Paris is given how bad way Disney studios is

Nope, but it will eventually be. We’ll see that second park within 10-15 years.

 

[denyuntilcaught]

Nope, but it will eventually be. We’ll see that second park within 10-15 years.

Absolutely. The rate of expansion at Shanghai is mind-blowing, if not surprising. Meanwhile, the expansion at HKDL was much more slow-paced, but has produced much more of a consistently higher-quality of product.

I will say, I'm planning a trip next year and it's coming down to Tokyo vs Hong Kong, and I'm planning towards the latter just to visit HKDL. Its uniqueness is an asset that I think is vastly under marketed.

 

[Aramar]

The rate of expansion at Shanghai is mind-blowing, if not surprising.

I don't think Shanghai is expanding so fast. It opened in 2016 and the only expansions in 8 years were Toy Story Land (which was already planned since the beginning) and now Zootopia with only 1 ride. Hong Kong has had more expansions and has changed a lot more (they een changed the castle!).

 

[marni1971]

I’d argue Paris has been a destination resort for quite a while now. It’s marketed that way to bring multi day stays to the onsite resorts which have high year round occupancy's. Where Paris scores well (and would also fail without) is the included park tickets with an onsite stay. Does it inflate the hotel price? Slightly. But the perceived value does it no harm. Would the same help Hong Kong? Perhaps.

I’ll be honest, Shanghai doesn’t appeal that much. It’s not a destination resort. The park line up for park fans is relatively poor; the geek in me is only looking forward to PotC. The park has been described to me by someone I trust as new and shiny and state of the art but ultimately hollow and lacklustre and definitely of the era of the current WDC. I’ll hope to give an honest opinion of everything once we’ve been later this year, but for now it’s really a visit to tick the box on our way back to HKDL.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I’ll be honest, Shanghai doesn’t appeal that much. It’s not a destination resort. The park line up for park fans is relatively poor; the geek in me is only looking forward to PotC.

Having been on TRON at MK, it's one less reason to go for me, but there's still the Pirate area as a whole, the raft ride (one of the last non-IP ride they've built), their version of Peter Pan and more oddities like Voyage to the Crystal Grotto and the castle walk through that would hold my interest for a day.

 

[ParkPeeker]

Oh right (I knew it wasn’t game boy advanced…)

Ya I think structurally the Greater Bay Area never has reacted how they expected it would. Theres been more geopolitical, structural boundaries and physical boundaries that people don’t treat HK as their neighboring suburb. They’ve been trying to overtake that with things like the rail connection and mega bridge… but I don’t think it worked fully and the protests didn’t help.

Japanese 20yo hop on the metro from whenever in Tokyo. Shenzen young adults don’t really have the same experience with Lantau.

Extremely off topic but I want to make clear I’m laughing at the gba thing. That’s exactly where my mind went first lol.