HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

Supersnow84

Supersnow84

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To be honest while it’s good to get a bit more feedback about the rides themselves I think what we really need from arendelle is to see if this makes the average guest think that HKDL is “good enough” to be worth it now

Two decent new rides in a pretty new land won’t do much if the attendance is still bad because the average guest thinks the park is a waste of time
 
Hkayer

Hkayer

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The time for this land to draw large attendance is limited as Fantasy Springs is opening not far behind. Most people's attention would be turned to Tokyo once they start advertising given the scale of the land. Arendelle will surely benefit HKDL but after comparison, the park may still be "a waste of time" for people when deciding which Disney park to visit. The park's attendance may see a big jump in the first few months but not long-lasting. Despite that, the park's offering is improving and could at least draw more people from the closer regions.
 
malice

malice

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disney.dreams said:
cast member’s friends, family previews and annual pass holders previews begin in coming weeks, so we can expect more footages and maybe more feedbacks for the rides themselves

personally i’m quite curious on the playhouse in the woods, its probably a bit similar to the small frozen show in paris i guess
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Oh, I meant soft opening to the general public. I was aware of the cast and magic access dates.
 
IMDREW

IMDREW

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Never seen anything other than that one concept art of the HKDL Pirates Splash before! The park needed and still needs this ride imo. This looks like something that would tip the scale for tourists to choose HKDL over another disney resort. They could cancel the Marvel E-ticket for this if it would be up to me. It just looks so cool.

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BrianLo

BrianLo

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Hkayer said:
The time for this land to draw large attendance is limited as Fantasy Springs is opening not far behind. Most people's attention would be turned to Tokyo once they start advertising given the scale of the land. Arendelle will surely benefit HKDL but after comparison, the park may still be "a waste of time" for people when deciding which Disney park to visit. The park's attendance may see a big jump in the first few months but not long-lasting. Despite that, the park's offering is improving and could at least draw more people from the closer regions.
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Despite the grouping on this forum, there’s almost a non existent attendance overlap between HKDL and TDR. They are not, nor ever will be in any true competition with one another.

Even in 2019 more than 90% of TDR attendees were from Japan.
 
Supersnow84

Supersnow84

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BrianLo said:
Despite the grouping on this forum, there’s almost a non existent attendance overlap between HKDL and TDR. They are not, nor ever will be in any true competition with one another.

Even in 2019 more than 90% of TDR attendees were from Japan.
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There isn’t attendance overlap but there can be advertising overlap that causes people to become confused or for one to drown the other one out

Tokyo Disney locals rarely go to any other park but it would be pretty easy for fantasy springs to pull away from HK for the more flexible of HK’s attendance (that makes up the 10% of Tokyo’s attendance)- the Australians and the SEA guests which are their best bet for expansion since it’s messy to pull from the Chinese side of the GBA border
 
Robbiem

Robbiem

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Supersnow84 said:
There isn’t attendance overlap but there can be advertising overlap that causes people to become confused or for one to drown the other one out

Tokyo Disney locals rarely go to any other park but it would be pretty easy for fantasy springs to pull away from HK for the more flexible of HK’s attendance (that makes up the 10% of Tokyo’s attendance)- the Australians and the SEA guests which are their best bet for expansion since it’s messy to pull from the Chinese side of the GBA border
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I don’t think Tokyo can advertise internationally under its deal with Disney. That doesn’t mean of course that people won’t know about fantasy springs

On a wider question do people visit Hong Kong or Tokyo for Disney or do they visit while they are there? I’m no expert but I assume that most people would visit while they were on a longer visit to the wider area rather than specifically visiting the Disney resorts, especially Hong Kong
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Supersnow84 said:
There isn’t attendance overlap but there can be advertising overlap that causes people to become confused or for one to drown the other one out

Tokyo Disney locals rarely go to any other park but it would be pretty easy for fantasy springs to pull away from HK for the more flexible of HK’s attendance (that makes up the 10% of Tokyo’s attendance)- the Australians and the SEA guests which are their best bet for expansion since it’s messy to pull from the Chinese side of the GBA border
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That was just an example. You are further confusing that 10% of the attendance of TDR is up for grabs or cross pollinate. It's not 10%, it's not even 1%, it's probably 0.1%.

Neither TDR or HKDL are major sole attendance drivers. Don't let a few crazy North Americans and a Brit convince you otherwise. International Guests are pulled to the region (or already are in the region) and Disney Parks bite into their vacation plans otherwise.

Likewise those who visit TDR Internationally are by and large on a Japan trip already. Maybe TDR itself is turning into a destination, but barely. WDW is weird and probably distracts more from HKDL than TDR ever has or ever will.
 
Supersnow84

Supersnow84

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BrianLo said:
That was just an example. You are further confusing that 10% of the attendance of TDR is up for grabs or cross pollinate. It's not 10%, it's not even 1%, it's probably 0.1%.

Neither TDR or HKDL are major sole attendance drivers. Don't let a few crazy North Americans and a Brit convince you otherwise. International Guests are pulled to the region (or already are in the region) and Disney Parks bite into their vacation plans otherwise.

Likewise those who visit TDR Internationally are by and large on a Japan trip already. Maybe TDR itself is turning into a destination, but barely. WDW is weird and probably distracts more from HKDL than TDR ever has or ever will.
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It’s not the 10% are up for grabs it’s that there is a certain percentage of each parks attendance that is flexible about which park they will visit or if they even chose to visit a park

In general people don’t plan a trip to the Asian Disney cities to go to the Asian Disney parks but if you are pre-planning a trip that involves going to a Disney park then the city you choose to go to can become flexible

For example in my time as a travel agent in Australia and who was the regional specialist in high end trips involving disney parks it wasn’t “well I’m going to Japan anyway so I guess it’s Tokyo Disney” it was “Tokyo Disney is better than Hong Kong Disney so that encouraging me to go to Japan over Hong Kong”

It’s hard to quantify how much of the flexible attendance at each park is driven by the quality of the parks offerings vs “just already being in said city” but since HK draws more of its attendance from regional visitors who have the financial capacity to sub it out for Tokyo its not great for HK even if when all is said and done said flexible people are a small number of Tokyo’s attendance because said market is Hong Kong’s primary short term market expansion since it’s close to saturated the local city population and the wife GBA is messy till they relax the border
 

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