Rumor Higher Speed Rail from MCO to Disney World

[Thelazer]

Even if it's not high speed, if it can be a relaxing train ride to Miami at the same pace a car takes, but without the driving.
I'd be all for that.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Its a very large airport....

It’s a pretty well designed airport.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Mediocre intercity rail service is not the same thing as a transformative theme park. My big concern with Brightline is that FL won’t make the effort to have a future proof truly high speed (think speeds up to 250-300mph) system that connects to the rest of the eastern seaboard. “Brightline sucks, why try again?”

I hope it’s successful but we must face facts. This kind of rail system doesn’t make money, it’s a money loser and if the state must prop it up with state money, it’s a cost that is not worth it.

Now if the Federal government what’s to put there green money where their green mouth is and indefinitely cover the losses, I am in.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

This kind of rail system doesn’t make money, it’s a money loser and if the state must prop it up with state money, it’s a cost that is not worth it.

California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, Michigan, Vermont, Maine, North Carolina, Missouri, Pennsylvania, New York and Virginia all disagree with you.

Furthermore... i think you may be confused. If you have a problem with state-funded rail transit, you have a problem with Sunrail. Brightline is private.

If Brightline ever wants to give up the whole operation the state can decide if they want to take it over or not... but that’s a discussion to have in the future, not now.

 

[Stupido]

This may have been answered already, but will Disney have any say or control over the light-rail line from the airport to Disney Springs? For example, would they be able to have an audio track welcoming their guests to their Disney vacation, or some form of theming on the trains themselves? It’s just always so nice being able to start your Disney experience at the airport.

 

[JoeCamel]

This may have been answered already, but will Disney have any say or control over the light-rail line from the airport to Disney Springs? For example, would they be able to have an audio track welcoming their guests to their Disney vacation, or some form of theming on the trains themselves? It’s just always so nice being able to start your Disney experience at the airport.

As far as I know there are no current proposals to run light rail from MCO to WDW

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

This may have been answered already, but will Disney have any say or control over the light-rail line from the airport to Disney Springs? For example, would they be able to have an audio track welcoming their guests to their Disney vacation, or some form of theming on the trains themselves? It’s just always so nice being able to start your Disney experience at the airport.

Yes I’m sure that possibility exists. It will be interesting to see how this all comes together.

 

[Disstevefan1]

California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, Michigan, Vermont, Maine, North Carolina, Missouri, Pennsylvania, New York and Virginia all disagree with you.

Furthermore... i think you may be confused. If you have a problem with state-funded rail transit, you have a problem with Sunrail. Brightline is private.

If Brightline ever wants to give up the whole operation the state can decide if they want to take it over or not... but that’s a discussion to have in the future, not now.

Poor Sunrail. It seems there is almost a monthly accident. I am happy to know Brightline is private, in fact, according to Wikipedia, as of August 2020, it is the only privately owned and operated intercity passenger railroad in the United States.

Being privately owned, there is real incentive to be profitable. I hope it works.

Sorry if I was not clear, I am a fan of trains, and I hope the expansion is success, I just have my doubts.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

I mean I get it. It'd be nice to hop on a train from the airport straight to a Disney hub and then catch a connecting alternate form of Disney transport to your chosen resort. But an Uber XL is about 50 bucks from MCO and will take you directly to your resort.

The train is going to cost something. Let's say it's $10 a person. So the question becomes is the extra $10 (for a family of 4) worth the extra time and hassle? And if the cost is equal to or greater than a ride share - I think its going to be an issue of adoption.

 

[Stupido]

I mean I get it. It'd be nice to hop on a train from the airport straight to a Disney hub and then catch a connecting alternate form of Disney transport to your chosen resort. But an Uber XL is about 50 bucks from MCO and will take you directly to your resort.

The train is going to cost something. Let's say it's $10 a person. So the question becomes is the extra $10 (for a family of 4) worth the extra time and hassle? And if the cost is equal to or greater than a ride share - I think its going to be an issue of adoption.

Valid points. However, it also cuts down on a carbon footprint, giving a form of transportation that doesn’t rely on fossil fuels. Sure, the busses waiting are still pretty rough, but it’s at least something. Also, there are plenty of parties of 2 or 3 that visit Disney that would get a better deal. Plus, what happens with larger groups, should they order multiple UberXLs? I think Ubers are a great option for some people, but when there are multiple forms of transport, everyone wins. With the Magic Express ending, do you know how long lines for Uber’s and taxis are going to be? The light rail would absolutely divert guests and free up space for those wanting to take a direct Uber or taxi.

 

[JoeCamel]

Valid points. However, it also cuts down on a carbon footprint, giving a form of transportation that doesn’t rely on fossil fuels. Sure, the busses waiting are still pretty rough, but it’s at least something. Also, there are plenty of parties of 2 or 3 that visit Disney that would get a better deal. Plus, what happens with larger groups, should they order multiple UberXLs? I think Ubers are a great option for some people, but when there are multiple forms of transport, everyone wins. With the Magic Express ending, do you know how long lines for Uber’s and taxis are going to be? The light rail would absolutely divert guests and free up space for those wanting to take a direct Uber or taxi.

This is not light rail and the engines burn fossil fuels plus it takes a bunch to manufacture the train and road.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Valid points. However, it also cuts down on a carbon footprint, giving a form of transportation that doesn’t rely on fossil fuels. Sure, the busses waiting are still pretty rough, but it’s at least something. Also, there are plenty of parties of 2 or 3 that visit Disney that would get a better deal. Plus, what happens with larger groups, should they order multiple UberXLs? I think Ubers are a great option for some people, but when there are multiple forms of transport, everyone wins. With the Magic Express ending, do you know how long lines for Uber’s and taxis are going to be? The light rail would absolutely divert guests and free up space for those wanting to take a direct Uber or taxi.

I put myself in the position of that family that just landed. If I came in on a direct flight that took 2 hours that's one thing. But for the family that's been on a flight for a few hours and possibly a layover or two, or especially those coming in internationally. The appeal of a direct ride to your resort vs another method of transportation that would require an additional transfer and wait time, well I'd choose the direct route - especially if there were no significant cost benefit.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I mean I get it. It'd be nice to hop on a train from the airport straight to a Disney hub and then catch a connecting alternate form of Disney transport to your chosen resort. But an Uber XL is about 50 bucks from MCO and will take you directly to your resort.

The train is going to cost something. Let's say it's $10 a person. So the question becomes is the extra $10 (for a family of 4) worth the extra time and hassle? And if the cost is equal to or greater than a ride share - I think its going to be an issue of adoption.

Again, this is a small segment literally in the middle of a larger route. Traffic between Walt Disney World and Orlando International Airport will be a plus but it is not the driving force behind the project.

 

[Lilofan]

I put myself in the position of that family that just landed. If I came in on a direct flight that took 2 hours that's one thing. But for the family that's been on a flight for a few hours and possibly a layover or two, or especially those coming in internationally. The appeal of a direct ride to your resort vs another method of transportation that would require an additional transfer and wait time, well I'd choose the direct route - especially if there were no significant cost benefit.

And if the international flights and or redeye flights arrive at OIA, the family gets to WDW in the early morning and perhaps still can't check in early into the hotel room. More of a waiting game.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Again, this is a small segment literally in the middle of a larger route. Traffic between Walt Disney World and Orlando International Airport will be a plus but it is not the driving force behind the project.

I see it when I cut over from 95 onto 528. It will serve the port as well.

 

[nickys]

And if the international flights and or redeye flights arrive at OIA, the family gets to WDW in the early morning and perhaps still can't check in early into the hotel room. More of a waiting game.

Not really a problem. You can drop bags and head to the parks, or lounge by the pool if the room isn’t ready.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

And if the international flights and or redeye flights arrive at OIA, the family gets to WDW in the early morning and perhaps still can't check in early into the hotel room. More of a waiting game.

I'm not saying that it won't work for some. But it's not an automatic option for everybody.

 

[Lilofan]

Not really a problem. You can drop bags and head to the parks, or lounge by the pool if the room isn’t ready.

I've traveled 12 hours to Hawaii with a stopover in TX for 3 hours. First thing I needed to was to check in early which I could to unpack shower and start my day . Luckily the room was ready .

 

[nickys]

I've traveled 12 hours to Hawaii with a stopover in TX for 3 hours. First thing I needed to was to check in early which I could to unpack shower and start my day . Luckily the room was ready .

Heck yes. When we travel to Florida, the 9 or so hour flight is just part of the story. By the time we get to the resort it’s usually been 16-18 hours travelling. Luckily it’s evening so we can have something to eat, a couple of drinks and hit our beds.
But if I was arriving in the morning I’d probably book the night before so we could crash for some rest as soon as we arrived. Adrenaline only takes you so far.
Regardless of arrival time, trying to negotiate getting to the train, on and off and transfer with luggage is a hard “No thanks”. I’ll take a coach transfer or Uber and go straight there.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I see it when I cut over from 95 onto 528. It will serve the port as well.

Maybe in the future. As of now there are no stops in Brevard County.