Haunted Mansion

[MrPromey]

I'm still planning on going to see it and have had low expectations from the start, so I may enjoy it. I don't put too much stock in critic's reviews and never let them tell me what I can or can't enjoy. That said, I just looked at all the reviews and many seem to have a cadaverous pallor.... Hopefully it's at least enjoyable. I'm not expecting Schindler's List or even Pirates of the Caribbean, just something to watch for a few hours out of the blazing heat.

Looking at the summaries on Rotten Tomatoes, those for the fresh reviews read like promotional pieces Disney themselves would have written which makes me suspect, especially since the negative summaries actually provide details on what they thought was wrong.

I know we'll appreciate at least some of it for the easter eggs* if nothing else, though.

*I'm not sure you can even call references to the ride easter eggs since the trailer makes everything in the movie look like a callback to the ride... except the main villain, apparently - at least here in Florida for now. They still have what? Five months to make that happen if they decide sticking to what they promised matters this time? Still feels like it would have made some semblance of sense to have that working before this weekend though, doesn't it?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

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How much of that content is actually of quality… Of the streaming services we have(Netflix, Max, Prime, Apple +, Disney +, Hulu) We watch Netflix the least… we are talking about getting rid of the service as we hardly watch it, maybe we will subscribe for a month when Stranger Things return

Well the question is: is saturation going to be less useful…in the end…than “Cadillac programming”?

Or is neither gonna work/hold?

All valid questions

 

[SosoDude]

Looking at the summaries on Rotten Tomatoes, those for the fresh reviews read like promotional pieces Disney themselves would have written which makes me suspect, especially since the negative summaries actually provide details on what they thought was wrong.

I know we'll appreciate at least some of it for the easter eggs* if nothing else, though.

*I'm not sure you can even call references to the ride easter eggs since the trailer makes everything in the movie look like a callback to the ride... except the main villain, apparently - at least here in Florida for now. They still have what? Five months to make that happen if they decide sticking to what they promised matters this time? Still feels like it would have made some semblance of sense to have that working before this weekend though, doesn't it?

Yeah, I'm really just going for the nostalgia and easter eggs. And, yes, you'd think they would have added Hatbox to Florida already. They been taking about doing it since 2018 if I recall right.

 

[Phroobar]

I don't see that happening. I think The Meg ultimately dissapointed people and this one is just a fun B movie gore chomp fest.

I imagine it will do around 45-65 million if it really takes off.

I will be shocked if it topped Cocaine Bear.

It will be enough to knock HM down another peg though.

Actually not true. The Meg made $530 million world wide. $384 million internationally. It actually made a profit on this Chinese funded movie. I think the Meg 2 should do fairly well especially in China.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Netflix and Disney are more alike than you realize.

Netflix scaling back movie output, cuts jobs in restructuring

Netflix is restructuring movie production, combining units, losing executives and cutting some jobs. The initiative is a move the company hopes will aid in decision-making.

www.foxbusiness.com

I’m aware all are cutting back

Does that mean the consumers are more likely to pay ransoms for their stream?

You’re right…they are a lot alike. And it’s why Bob is so whiny

 

[MrPromey]

Yeah, I'm really just going for the nostalgia and easter eggs. And, yes, you'd think they would have added Hatbox to Florida already. They been taking about doing it since 2018 if I recall right.

From the D23 announcement, it's supposed to happen this year.

Allegedly, the physical prop was made at the same time the one for DL was and has been sitting in storage, since.

Either way, I'm guessing the original internal pan was to do this to coincide with the movie. Maybe they were even planning to stick the studios with the bill for the upgrade as a promotional effort like they do with the new movie meet-and-greets.*

I'm guessing that it wasn't done in time for the movie suggests an internal loss in confidence in the movie.

That makes me wonder if this'll be like the theater and the trams coming back and any number of other things... keeping in mind, this was the highlight of that D23 presentation besides the blue sky/vaporware talk.

*Imagine this snake-eating-its own tale scenario - Parks charges Studios for the promo and Studios "pays" for it out of the marketing budget for the movie. Movie not going to make back it's budget and marketing costs during the theatrical run but manages to "break even" when D+ "pays" Studios for the streaming rights. D+ continues to be a money-loser at the time this deal is struck and continues to be propped up by profits from Parks but because the cost was laundered through D+ neither the Studios nor Parks take an on-paper hit for the work. Am I starting to get the hang of how the sausage gets made?

 

[celluloid]

Actually not true. The Meg made $530 million world wide. $384 million internationally. It actually made a profit on this Chinese funded movie. I think the Meg 2 should do fairly well especially in China.

For sure. I should have specified when I said disappointed people, I meant the audiences who saw it for the hype of the books and thought it would be the next Jaws. Fun cheese that I don't think people will rush as much to the theaters for.
Shark movies nearly always do well in Asia. I am sure it will still make a profit.

I don't see it getting close to the people who were willing to see the first in theaters. It has a production budget surprisingly nearly as high as the first one, but China as you said, is still likely a safe bet.

 

[Phroobar]

For sure. I should have specified when I said disappointed people, I meant the audiences who saw it for the hype of the books and thought it would be the next Jaws. Fun cheese that I don't think people will rush as much to the theaters for.
Shark movies nearly always do well in Asia. I am sure it will still make a profit.

I don't see it getting close to the people who were willing to see the first in theaters. It has a production budget surprisingly nearly as high as the first one, but China as you said, is still likely a safe bet.

Exactly. I saw the first one in theater. It was fun but was disappointing at the same time since I expected something very different. Besides, I can't stand Ruby Rose. However, China will love the new movie.

 

[MrPromey]

Yeah, I'm really just going for the nostalgia and easter eggs. And, yes, you'd think they would have added Hatbox to Florida already. They been taking about doing it since 2018 if I recall right.

To be fair, I haven't liked most Disney/Pixar movies we've paid to see in theaters for a while now but none were so bad I'd try demanding my money back for a ticket or anything.

Which is to say, I wouldn't call most of them good but I also wouldn't say they were awful.

I've sat through worse than Lightyear and Strange World.

I wasn't a fan of Elemental mostly because of some weird plot-points and weird unevenness with some characters being given rich motivation and story growth while other important characters were left entirely two-dimensional to move the story along. That stood out for me enough to not really enjoy it but at the same time, I don't think it was a bad movie. It just failed to deliver on the legacy of either Disney or Pixar in the way I believe it should have, could have, and under previous leadership, would have.

If I don't like Mansion, I'll be back to say so but I don't expect I'll absolutely hate it.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

Haven't seen anything yet on this movie being 'woke'. I'm sure something woke will be discovered though so certain folks can explain why this thing bombs

 

[BuddyThomas]

Yikes it’s now at 49% on Rotten Tomatoes. Wish I noticed that before I scored a ticket for tonight’s early access screening. Should say I was barely able to score a ticket. This is tonight’s auditorium:

 

[Disney Irish]

I’m aware all are cutting back

If you are aware then you know Netflix isn't pouring money into "originals" as they were. Again making them more like Disney, funny how that works.

Does that mean the consumers are more likely to pay ransoms for their stream?

Well that is up to the market to determine. If consumers ends up "cutting from the cord cutting services" then things will shift again and move in that direction. And Hollywood will go after that market and try to monetize it, just like always.

You’re right

Glad you can finally acknowledge it.

 

[TP2000]

Variety is reporting Haunted Mansion should have a $30 Million opening weekend debut.

If that's true, it's going to lose a lot of money.

Box Office: Disney’s ‘Haunted Mansion’ Eyes $30 Million Debut, ‘Barbenheimer’ to Remain on Top

"Barbie" and "Oppenheimer" are scaring off this weekend's new release, Disney's "The Haunted Mansion" remake.

variety.com

 

[LittleBuford]

Yikes it’s now at 49% on Rotten Tomatoes. Wish I noticed that before I scored a ticket for tonight’s early access screening. Should say I was barely able to score a ticket. This is tonight’s auditorium:

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Judge it for yourself; you may like it! I imagine being a Disney parks fan will make it that much more enjoyable.

 

[WorldExplorer]

If nothing else, this is a good thing because it makes it very unlikely they'll screw with the ride.

(Even if I like it I still want them to keep their hands off the ride.)

 

[DKampy]

Judge it for yourself; you may like it! I imagine being a Disney parks fan will make it that much more enjoyable.

yeah….I am watching it as a Disney fan…I am not expecting it to be one of my favorite movies of the year or anything, but as a fan of the ride, I think I will have fun with it…in fact some of the reviews have even mentioned Disny fan will enjoy it

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If you are aware then you know Netflix isn't pouring money into "originals" as they were. Again making them more like Disney, funny how that works.

Well that’s a question of scale as well. In 2019, Netflix spent more on content than twice the three biggest competitors (including D+ in its infancy) combined.

So that’s a steep drop - for sure…but at a much higher starting point in dollars of the day.
Obviously Peter Pan and fantasia were free.

Well that is up to the market to determine. If consumers ends up "cutting from the cord cutting services" then things will shift again and move in that direction. And Hollywood will go after that market and try to monetize it, just like always.

Pretty much write that in. The silly Hollywood guys think 26 year olds with $310,000 in undergraduate debt will be subscribing to 6 streaming services at $50 a month in 5 years…
…when everyone knows that will be for their iPhone and VR adult film headset

Glad you can finally acknowledge it.

A broken clock is right at least 1.99 times a day

 

[BuddyThomas]

Current RT Top Critics rocking a 27% score so far.

Since RT expanded their definition of “critic”, I just go straight to the top critic score as I am not really interested in what KBFE-Radio in Tucson thinks.

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Hoo-boy. I might have to smuggle some vodka into the theatre for this one.

 

[Phroobar]

Haven't seen anything yet on this movie being 'woke'. I'm sure something woke will be discovered though so certain folks can explain why this thing bombs

I haven't heard of anything politically objectionable in it. Just some talk about how it handles depression and death. It sounds like a lot of eye candy but not very filling.

Disneyaholic junk food?

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Skimmed the critic reviews and thus far the commonality between them is how the star-studded cast basically phone it in, the heavy use of dated CGI and subbing in fan service eye candy where story should have been added. Seems Disney opted to once again play it safe.

Next up: FIGMENT!