Haunted Mansion WRONG!

[HMGhost13]

1st- it's the body of the Ghost Host. it's never actually SAID that's it's Gracey. only implied and speculated.

2nd- the scream is one of the many ghosts (possibly the ghost host himself who knows. no one does really.) it's there to freak you out. there is a "rattling" of "bones" but that could just be a sound (think REAL ghosts now. some real hauntings are nothing but sounds).

3rd-it doesn't fall, only raises.

4th- "his way" is death. the only way out of the room is to die. (i know pretty grim ain't it?)

 

[ToTBellHop]

As others have said, "Of course, there's always MY way" implies that the person hanging is the Ghost Host. Then there is a flash of light, it goes dark, we hear a scream of decreasing pitch (which would entail a change in elevation) and a very loud thud of a body hitting the ground. I don't know how else to logically take that than the body is falling. He even says "oh, I didn't mean to frighten you prematurely. The real chill come later", which I took to mean the Ghost Host was scaring us by dropping the body on top of us. I don't buy the argument that the scream is supposed to be a guest, as that does not explain the change in pitch of the scream over time. I always thought it was the bride who had committed suicide in the attic, and in response, Master Gracey hanged himself from the rafters. It seemed like a no brainer to me...maybe not. I've never heard a scream like that w/o a large change in distance b/t the person screaming, and myself. The only way I can explain that would be that it is the person hanging. All of the other explanations don't really make sense to me. They seem a bit forced and contrary to what our Ghost Host tells us.

 

[BenS]

Originally posted by ISTCNavigator57
I don't buy the argument that the scream is supposed to be a guest, as that does not explain the change in pitch of the scream over time.

Well, I thought it was a guest killing themself by jumping off the rafters (no idea how they got up there :lol: )

 

[MKCustodial]

Well, I also kinda always figured the body was the Ghost Host's. Now the screaming... I don't know. I don't remember a "thud", so I just always assumed the screaming was there as a reaction to the body.

As for the Ghost Host's identity, yeah, after I learned a bit about the back story of the Mansion, I kinda linked him to Master Gracey. I mean, who better to show me around the house than the owner?

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Kyle...if he hung himself...how could he scream? All airflow is cut off.

It's a female scream...

It's a reaction (a lot like the reactions in Alien Encounter...where the guy says, "It looks like my mother in law")

 

[1disneydood]

So someone can conclude that one, Gracey screams like a sissy boy and two, the scream getting fainter is because the noose is getting tighter? :lookaroun

We should conduct an experiment. Any volunteers? :lol:

 

[Thessair]

Personally, I always felt the scream was a guest. To me, the change of the screaming voice always seemed a side-to-side thing, as opposed to a vertical drop. I’m weird, I won’t argue this, but I just figured that it was supposed to be a scared guest who freaked out and ran across the room before slamming into a wall, hence the thud. But that’s just my $.02.

 

[nicholas]

Originally posted by 1disneydood
So someone can conclude that one, Gracey screams like a sissy boy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :sohappy:

 

[sissa216]

Not to sound high and mighty..but I too always thought that was easy and not up to debate. "There's always My way" implies that the only way out is to follow what he did, which he then shows you. And then he (Master Gracey) takes you on a tour of the Mansion. The scream is just an added effect, and often works as it makes other guests scream along (your first reaction when you hear another person in the room scream is to scream, isn't it?)
I don't think this is meant to be thought about too hard :brick:

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by WDWFREAK53
Kyle...if he hung himself...how could he scream? All airflow is cut off.

It's a female scream...

It's a reaction (a lot like the reactions in Alien Encounter...where the guy says, "It looks like my mother in law")

Some of the ghosts in the Haunted mansion were decapitated and they still scream It's just a logical order of events for me. We see the Ghost Host hanging from the ceiling, the lights turn off, we hear a scream from what can be nothing other than a person changing a great deal of elevation (I'm sorry, you would not sound like that if you were next to me and passing out) and then a very loud thud when the body hits the ground. Unless you are trying to tell me that the guest hitting the ground weights 600 lbs, I don't buy that. It seems like you are trying to force something out of this that doesn't make sense to make WDI look like they did everything perfect. Well, I've got four words for you: Journey Into Your Imagination:lookaroun

 

[MKCustodial]

Originally posted by ISTCNavigator57
Some of the ghosts in the Haunted mansion were decapitated and they still scream It's just a logical order of events for me. We see the Ghost Host hanging from the ceiling, the lights turn off, we hear a scream from what can be nothing other than a person changing a great deal of elevation (I'm sorry, you would not sound like that if you were next to me and passing out) and then a very loud thud when the body hits the ground. Unless you are trying to tell me that the guest hitting the ground weights 600 lbs, I don't buy that. It seems like you are trying to force something out of this that doesn't make sense to make WDI look like they did everything perfect. Well, I've got four words for you: Journey Into Your Imagination:lookaroun

Well, I don't see anyone forcing anything, and I really don't see your logic. But as I said earlier, I don't remember a "thud". What I do remember is: "my way", lights out, thunder, corpse hanging, scream. To me, it always seemed like a reaction to the whole scene. If WDI wanted that or not, I'm sorry, you're gonna have to call them to find out.

 

[Thessair]

I think it's pretty safe to assume that there are going to be a number of differing opinions on this. Unless some ‘official’ source is found, I doubt we’ll ever have a proper answer that everyone will agree on.

 

[Lores]

This is what I think.

According to the story of the house, master Gracey lost his wife. That's such a terrible fate for the couple. So Gracey hung himself. The stretching room can have a double meaning. The only way you can escape the room is by suicide, as the only way he escaped from the pain of his wife's death and his loneliness in such a huge mansion.

Now, maybe he isn't master Gracey. But HE IS the ghost host. The implicit words "My way" are very clear. First he says it, then he shows it with the lightning.

He does not fall. The simple idea of the hanging to escape is horrible enough, and a lot more when the guests know that is the ONLY way out. Is like being said: "You are gonna die for sure"... The falling corpse would exchange that psicological thrill for a silly B-Movie: "BOO!"

Besides, Disney was very capable of doing the effect, if the body was supposed to fall, it would fall and no sound effect would be needed. Besides, he is a corpse, a corpse can't scream. The voice is Ghost Host's spirit, and he, like the guests, is looking at his decaying corpse.

I also believe that the scream is supposed to come from a guest. The efect is because, when we scream we use air in our lungs. When the air starts to end, our scream diminishes. That's the effect, it's not a scream going away, is a scream with "air soffocation" if you understand what I mean.

That's my two cents on the matter.

 

[Erika]

Originally posted by sissa216
Not to sound high and mighty..but I too always thought that was easy and not up to debate. "There's always My way" implies that the only way out is to follow what he did, which he then shows you. And then he (Master Gracey) takes you on a tour of the Mansion. The scream is just an added effect, and often works as it makes other guests scream along (your first reaction when you hear another person in the room scream is to scream, isn't it?)
I don't think this is meant to be thought about too hard :brick:

This is exactly the way I see it. :wave:

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Originally posted by ISTCNavigator57
Some of the ghosts in the Haunted mansion were decapitated and they still scream It's just a logical order of events for me. We see the Ghost Host hanging from the ceiling, the lights turn off, we hear a scream from what can be nothing other than a person changing a great deal of elevation (I'm sorry, you would not sound like that if you were next to me and passing out) and then a very loud thud when the body hits the ground. Unless you are trying to tell me that the guest hitting the ground weights 600 lbs, I don't buy that. It seems like you are trying to force something out of this that doesn't make sense to make WDI look like they did everything perfect. Well, I've got four words for you: Journey Into Your Imagination:lookaroun

He is talking to you in a rather manly voice (the scream is a woman's voice)...thus implying that he's already "dead." He says, "There's always my way" implying that he hung himself to get out of the confines of the chamber (releasing his soul). If it was his BODY screaming...(as you're saying...because it's falling)...it would not be able to because of the lack of airflow from the noose. The "graveyard" screams are there to scare you...as if to say "BOO!". Those are the actual "zombies" (not ghosts)... If you look, you can tell the difference...zombies pop their heads up and scream...zombies are trying to get out of the casket...(zombies are decaying bodies)...Ghosts are translucent (ballroom, bride, yodelers, etc.).

 

[HMGhost13]

*sigh*

again i post and it goes unnoticed.:brick:

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Originally posted by HMGhost13
*sigh*

again i post and it goes unnoticed.:brick:

this one didn't :lookaroun

 

[hoppypooh]

Well I feel like an idiot :hammer:

How on earth did I miss this effect?!? I was just there for the first time in January, so the HM is pretty clear in my mind.
I certainly remember the portraits... But I didn't know to look up and certainly no one else in the room did. Is this hanging man an obvious effect or one that only true HM-fans know about?

 

[pilka214]

the guy hanging above you is the ghost host, not master Gracey ( at least that was intended by the original imagineers) there was never a original story with " Master Gracey". This story evolved from a tombstone outside which is placed there for Yale Gracey the imagineer who came up with a majority of the effects on the hm. so the man hanging is the ghost host there is no master gracey or his bride. this all came from the movie not the ride. never was it intended for it to be Gracey manor or such this all came from a little rumore the cms and guests came up with. and this is all official info, i found it in a book " the haunted mansion, from the magic kingdom to the movies" it has the story behind all effects secrets building of the rides ( all 4) plus stuff you have prbly never noticed before on the hm.

 

[SirGoofy]

YAY! I finally know what is hanging from the ceiling in the Stretching Room! After the numerous that I have been on HM I have never seen what is actually up there. I knew something was hanging, but I never knew exactly what it was. It is all so clear know, lol.