Haunted Mansion - Insight?

Hakunamatata

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
IcicleM said:
The picture of the man with the hatchet with the noose tied around his neck is indeed Master Gracey, and our Ghost Host. There are many stories that people can sit there and tell you, some of them go well together, but other stories sound and flow better than the others. One of the stories I've come to love is this one:

Master Gracey and Elizabeth were cousins. She was much younger than him, and he was a millionaire who had inherited the mansion from his father, after he died. Master Gracey lived with few servants, and was known to throw such elaborate parties. His father had taken in a gypsy woman off of the streets, whom none of the town folk liked. They called her a witch, and spread nasty rumors about her. It was only Master Gracey who could stop the town's leering eyes from peering over the house. This protection she received from Master Gracey caused her to fall in love with him, but sadly, he had eyes for another.

Elizabeth and Master Gracey fell in love, and Madame Leota hated this. She despised this new girl, and she believed that she was stealing Master Gracey from her. In disguise, she walked through town, spreading rumors that Elizabeth was a tramp, and that she had already slept with nearly all the bachelors in town. She told them that Elizabeth secretly wanted to kill him so she could inherit his mansion and his money. Leota hated Elizabeth and the town, but what she hated more than them was Master Gracey himself. She felt betrayed and hurt, and she wanted to curse him and Elizabeth and the whole town if she couldn't have her way.

When the rumors about Elizabeth and Master Gracey hit home, they tried to prove the people wrong by getting married and celebrating their union in front of everyone, showing their undying love for one another. Leota tried pleading to Master Gracey, saying she loved him, and she needed him. He refused her, and in despair, Leota went to her seance room, and she knew it was time to cast a spell; a curse. She would ensure that Elizabeth and Master Gracey would be torn apart forever.

Still being quite a child, Elizabeth wanted to play hide and seek with her new husband on their honeymoon. She hid in the attic, in a trunk, and some unseen spirit from beyond locked her within, and she suffocated to death. Leota's spell had worked. But it had backfired. It was too strong, and she ended up sealing herself in her own crystal ball. To this day, some say you can hear her spirit still channeling the "spirits from somewhere beyond."

As for Elizabeth, she still waits there, for her husband to come find her. After she died, the ground's keeper finally found her lifeless body in the attic when he was cleaning it out. During the funeral in front of the mansion, people still jeered at Master Gracey, saying that the love was false, and they accused him of murdering her because she had supposedly "cheated" on Master Gracey. He held the ring up before the town and declared that he loved her, and she would take his love to her grave, but something "spooked" the horse, and Master Gracey and the ring were flung from the hearse, and the ring was stomped into the cement. In a panic, one of the townsmen shot the horse, dead, for fear it may trample him too.

Gracey felt that he had finally lost everything. He lost his wife, his dignity, and the trust the townspeople had in him. He was alone, and wanted to be left that way. The parties stopped, the lights barely flickered at night, and the mansion became cold and dark. He wandered the halls aimlessly, searching for some speck of hope, but none would come. He drank himself to insanity, and found that he would sometimes see things or hear things. He thought he found himself in a room with no way out. He began to hyperventilate and panic, hearing voices laughing in his ears. They mocked him and taunted him, but somewhere in those voices, he heard Elizabeth's. A wall seemed to slide away in this room, and he followed her voice, calling for her name. He followed the voice up to the attic, and the voice convinced him to come to her. He obeyed, knowing only one way to come to her. He heard the spirits mocking him, still, telling him to free himself from this world. And so he did... Master Gracey tied a noose, threw it over the rafters, and hung himself.

In a way, the spirits were right. He did free himself... from his body. However, even when he was in death, Master Gracey never knew Elizabeth's exact location even when he was a mortal, so he wanders the spirit world of the mansion, still searching for her, and she still waits. And the curse still lives on. To those who walk into the house, they see the final moments of Master Gracey, of Elizabeth, and Madame Leota, and the spirits reveal themselves to the mortal world, so they can tell their story. 999 people died in that house, but there will always be room for one more...

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That's one of the stories I was told, and it's my favorite. Whenever I go through the mansion, I think of that story, and it makes the ride SO much scarier for me.
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Wow. That is without a doubt the best Haunted Mansion story I have ever heard. It is believable and pulls alot of the other rumors about rings, etc, together into a believable story line. Awesome!!!!
 
CBOMB

CBOMB

Active Member
Capt. Jack said:
So..is there any chance of it being opened by at least the end of August? Or is September 12+ the exact date of which its set to open?
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Anything is possible, but I wouldn't count on it.
ThinkTink721 said:
Do you think it will reopen in time for the 1st MNSSHP?
:veryconfu :wave:
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I think if it isn't open there we be a longer line at guest relations than any of the other attractions.
hakunamatata said:
Wow. That is without a doubt the best Haunted Mansion story I have ever heard. It is believable and pulls alot of the other rumors about rings, etc, together into a believable story line. Awesome!!!!
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It was great wasn't it, kind of like a mini-novel.

Now it's time to play The Guessing Game! I still think they are going to try, and get a gift shop in there somehow. They are just losing to much revenue by not having a large one. It is one of the most popular rides in the MK. I also feel like they are going to have some nighttime effects for the outside. I think everything else is leaning towards a Disneyland like refurb.
 
pixiedust629

pixiedust629

New Member
I'm wondering if they will do any exterior work- because surely they will have to close the Riverboat, right? You can see the Mansion grounds from the bottom level of the boat, and I'm sure the top would give refurb spies a great peek at what is going on.

maybe they're going to try and incorporate more of the Eddie Murphy movie plot and scenes into the ride?
 
Chape19714

Chape19714

Well-Known Member
pixiedust629 said:
I'm wondering if they will do any exterior work- because surely they will have to close the Riverboat, right? You can see the Mansion grounds from the bottom level of the boat, and I'm sure the top would give refurb spies a great peek at what is going on.

maybe they're going to try and incorporate more of the Eddie Murphy movie plot and scenes into the ride?
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Most of the work will be interior.

Eddie Murphy would be a terrible addition to the Mansion, and I'm 99.99% certain Disney knows that and won't add him.
 
E

Enigma

Account Suspended
IcicleM said:
The picture of the man with the hatchet with the noose tied around his neck is indeed Master Gracey, and our Ghost Host. There are many stories that people can sit there and tell you, some of them go well together, but other stories sound and flow better than the others. One of the stories I've come to love is this one:

Master Gracey and Elizabeth were cousins. She was much younger than him, and he was a millionaire who had inherited the mansion from his father, after he died. Master Gracey lived with few servants, and was known to throw such elaborate parties. His father had taken in a gypsy woman off of the streets, whom none of the town folk liked. They called her a witch, and spread nasty rumors about her. It was only Master Gracey who could stop the town's leering eyes from peering over the house. This protection she received from Master Gracey caused her to fall in love with him, but sadly, he had eyes for another.

Elizabeth and Master Gracey fell in love, and Madame Leota hated this. She despised this new girl, and she believed that she was stealing Master Gracey from her. In disguise, she walked through town, spreading rumors that Elizabeth was a tramp, and that she had already slept with nearly all the bachelors in town. She told them that Elizabeth secretly wanted to kill him so she could inherit his mansion and his money. Leota hated Elizabeth and the town, but what she hated more than them was Master Gracey himself. She felt betrayed and hurt, and she wanted to curse him and Elizabeth and the whole town if she couldn't have her way.

When the rumors about Elizabeth and Master Gracey hit home, they tried to prove the people wrong by getting married and celebrating their union in front of everyone, showing their undying love for one another. Leota tried pleading to Master Gracey, saying she loved him, and she needed him. He refused her, and in despair, Leota went to her seance room, and she knew it was time to cast a spell; a curse. She would ensure that Elizabeth and Master Gracey would be torn apart forever.

Still being quite a child, Elizabeth wanted to play hide and seek with her new husband on their honeymoon. She hid in the attic, in a trunk, and some unseen spirit from beyond locked her within, and she suffocated to death. Leota's spell had worked. But it had backfired. It was too strong, and she ended up sealing herself in her own crystal ball. To this day, some say you can hear her spirit still channeling the "spirits from somewhere beyond."

As for Elizabeth, she still waits there, for her husband to come find her. After she died, the ground's keeper finally found her lifeless body in the attic when he was cleaning it out. During the funeral in front of the mansion, people still jeered at Master Gracey, saying that the love was false, and they accused him of murdering her because she had supposedly "cheated" on Master Gracey. He held the ring up before the town and declared that he loved her, and she would take his love to her grave, but something "spooked" the horse, and Master Gracey and the ring were flung from the hearse, and the ring was stomped into the cement. In a panic, one of the townsmen shot the horse, dead, for fear it may trample him too.

Gracey felt that he had finally lost everything. He lost his wife, his dignity, and the trust the townspeople had in him. He was alone, and wanted to be left that way. The parties stopped, the lights barely flickered at night, and the mansion became cold and dark. He wandered the halls aimlessly, searching for some speck of hope, but none would come. He drank himself to insanity, and found that he would sometimes see things or hear things. He thought he found himself in a room with no way out. He began to hyperventilate and panic, hearing voices laughing in his ears. They mocked him and taunted him, but somewhere in those voices, he heard Elizabeth's. A wall seemed to slide away in this room, and he followed her voice, calling for her name. He followed the voice up to the attic, and the voice convinced him to come to her. He obeyed, knowing only one way to come to her. He heard the spirits mocking him, still, telling him to free himself from this world. And so he did... Master Gracey tied a noose, threw it over the rafters, and hung himself.

In a way, the spirits were right. He did free himself... from his body. However, even when he was in death, Master Gracey never knew Elizabeth's exact location even when he was a mortal, so he wanders the spirit world of the mansion, still searching for her, and she still waits. And the curse still lives on. To those who walk into the house, they see the final moments of Master Gracey, of Elizabeth, and Madame Leota, and the spirits reveal themselves to the mortal world, so they can tell their story. 999 people died in that house, but there will always be room for one more...

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That's one of the stories I was told, and it's my favorite. Whenever I go through the mansion, I think of that story, and it makes the ride SO much scarier for me.
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Not sure I like the idea of Master Gracey and Elizebeth Swann being cousins. Although WED designed the two attractions (POTC and HM) to co-exist in the same "universe".
 
I

ItstheM

New Member
That little dock/boat house was where I waited in line for 45 minutes to get on Haunted Mansion last week.

Why (and when) did they take away the fast passes?? WHHHYY
 
daverube

daverube

Active Member
Was there a secondary entrance/exit to the Keel Boats when it was open??? I think you took the ramp from outside of the HM to get down there (the 2nd pic shows the ramp...and you can see the HM wall with Gracey note)....it's been so long that I forget.....

If there was/is a secondary entrance/exit to that attraction, then I'd guess they would need a wall at that entrance/exit to keep folks from taking the ramp up to the HM (which would place you behind the ground-level blockade)...

just a guess....

dave


Also...lots of info/speculation of HM on http://www.doombuggies.com/
 
DonaldDoleWhip

DonaldDoleWhip

Well-Known Member
Can that story actually be possible? Remember the tombstone where Master Gracey's wives are buried. The inscription on the tombstone is something like this:
"Seven winsome wives, some fat some thin, six of them were faithful, but the seventh did him in."

So didn't he have seven wives over his life and the seventh one murdered him? Or did he commit suicide?
 
IcicleM

IcicleM

New Member
He definitely committed suicide but there was some egging on of the spirits. And here's what the tombstone says:

1440
BLUEBEARD
here lieth his loving wives

Penelope died 1434
Abigail died 1435
Anastasia died 1436
Prudence died 1437
Pheobe died 1438
Eugenia died 1439
Lucretia
Seven winsome wives
Some fat, some thin
Six of them were faithful
But the seventh did him in

So no, it wasn't Master Gracey. It's just meant to be cute. They thing we're all supposed to realize about the house is the most RECENT Grave in the graveyard (before you walk in) is Master Gracey's. The dirt is still fresh, and there seems to be a new rose always placed on his tombstone by someone, to replace the last one that died, so Master Gracey is never forgotten. Who that person is, no one knows... Also, Madame Leota's tomb is right next door, and it's "living", almost like a reminder that Leota has some unfortunate eternal connection to the house.
 
iheartdisney91

iheartdisney91

Well-Known Member
did you guys notice the new entrance? with the flower pots? ita pretty cool. i looks like its up closer so maybe they took down the original columns that has the HM sign on it. thats a way of expanding the grounds.... well a little bit any way.


if anyone goes to the resturant right acrross the street from the HM go up stairs and see if you can see over the wall.... pictures are very much appreciated.
 
daverube

daverube

Active Member
iheartdisney91 said:
if anyone goes to the resturant right acrross the street from the HM go up stairs and see if you can see over the wall.... pictures are very much appreciated.
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FYI - That's the Columbia Harbour House.....and, although I'll eat there every now and then, I'm still waiting on the return of the Bread Bowl!!!!!
 
iheartdisney91

iheartdisney91

Well-Known Member
daverube said:
FYI - That's the Columbia Harbour House.....and, although I'll eat there every now and then, I'm still waiting on the return of the Bread Bowl!!!!!
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THATS IT!!! i love that place, yeah i knew it had the word harbor in it.
but im serious some one should go upstaires and see if they can see anything interesting.
 
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Enigma

Account Suspended
IcicleM said:
He definitely committed suicide but there was some egging on of the spirits. And here's what the tombstone says:

1440
BLUEBEARD
here lieth his loving wives

Penelope died 1434
Abigail died 1435
Anastasia died 1436
Prudence died 1437
Pheobe died 1438
Eugenia died 1439
Lucretia
Seven winsome wives
Some fat, some thin
Six of them were faithful
But the seventh did him in
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Actually I think that tombstone is in reference to the fairy tale "Blue beard". That ryhme basically reveals what eventually became of that charecter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_beard
 

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