Hating new rides only because they replaced an older one?

[garyhoov]

Let me know when you grow fur.

Ummmmm . . .


















:lookaroun

 

[dxwwf3]

The characters in Alien Encounter were very uniquely "Disney World" created specifically for the ride. I can understand that people who are less fanatical than some of us would rather see characters they know from a film, but the fact that I could only see the AE characters at Disney World gave it a special feeling - like being home.

For one of the first times that I can remember, I think I'm going to find this change not sitting well with me.

Well said! For someone that liked, not loved, AE you really summed up how the resident WDWMagic Alien Encounter Fanatic (Unofficial title :lol: ) feels.

 

[1disneydood]

mrtoad, I think many of us would go absolutely POSTAL if they tore down HM EVER. I would then have no choice but to turn to universal, as I would take removing HM as a stab in the back by WD company.

 

[dxwwf3]

mrtoad, I think many of us would go absolutely POSTAL if they tore down HM EVER. I would then have no choice but to turn to universal, as I would take removing HM as a stab in the back by WD company.

Well now you guys know how I feel :lol:

Rest assured the Haunted Mansion will probably be there forever. Just as long as they can sell the film's DVD in a nearby shop

 

[MKCP 1985]

What was the original question? Do you ever hate a new ride only because it replaced an older one? My honest answer has to be . . . "yes." :lookaroun At least in one case, as I will explain.

I have never had anything against Winnie the Pooh. I think having a Pooh ride is great for Fantasyland. But because it replaced a ride I reeeeally liked, I don't give Pooh a fair shake. I know I'm not being objective and don't care that Pooh has better this or that (it does) - I think there was room for both, but Disney killed my toad! waaah! :lol:

Oh well, at least my son and nephew got to ride Mr. Toad before it closed, and without the bittersweet knowledge that it would be closing.

Mr. Toad was never a great Disney classic movie. The ride contained two dimensional characters - cheap! - and contained disturbing themes of unlawful reckless driving and criminal conduct leading to fatal consequences with souls ending up in "that place where the devil lives!" AWESOME!

I'll bet Pooh never got sent to "that place!" :lol:

That last time I rode with my young son and nephew, the ride actually stopped while we were in the final scene, with the big devil popping up with his angry expression and big pitchfork - over and over again while our little "Moley" car sat there and those kids kept seeing the devil over and over! That scared them to pieces! We all laugh about it now.

Darn that Pooh!

Don't get me wrong. I like new rides/attractions and they are needed. I don't have a problem shutting down some attractions that seem outdated. Some here say Mr. Toad was outdated, and his lines were short (since when is THAT a problem for a park guest? Sorry honey, we can't ride Splash Mountain today - the line is too short!). If you want to say Pooh is a better ride because he is more popular (when was the last time you saw Mr. Toad walking around the park, taking pictures and signing autographs?) and his ride has better effects I won't argue. But yes, I do hate the Pooh ride. I'll get over it someday when I am with some little kid (niece/nephew, grandchild) and his/her eyes light up with delight over going on the ride. Until then, I'll sulk over my departed toad! :lol:

 

[ClemsonTigger]

Are MKT's ears burning?

Mr. Toad was never a great Disney classic movie. The ride contained two dimensional characters - cheap! - and contained disturbing themes of unlawful reckless driving and criminal conduct leading to fatal consequences with souls ending up in "that place where the devil lives!" AWESOME! MKCP1986

I didn't know Rob worked at Toad............. :lol: :lol:

Drift I know, but I couldn't help myself, please forgive

 

[General Grizz]

From a Magic Kingdom Cast Member:

Let me use WDW's Mr. Toad's Wild Ride as an example. It took only one operator (per side), was simple enough that maintenance costs were very low, it had high reliability, and it normally ran *above* it's theoretical capacity. Though it didn't carry many guests at once, guest willingness to wait in long lines still made it an effective "people-eater" -- it took guests off the sidewalks.

What it didn't have was high guest satisfaction ratings. When surveyed at park exit, few named it among their ten favorite attractions, and few could tell what the story was about. Indeed, many who rode it couldn't even remember the name of the attraction. While young kids enjoyed the chance to "drive," it left many adults cold, especially after baking in the non-A/C line for an hour first.

It was this lack of guest satisfaction, more than any other factor, that caused Mr. Toad to move back to California, where the locals that make up a larger fraction of guests still love him, and a higher percentage remember his film and even his name.

While it's easy for us to see from the outside what an attraction's utilization and capacity are, and we can guess about labor and maintenance costs, and synergy options are generally quite clear, without the results of the guest surveys, it's very difficult to gauge guest satisfaction levels. And after all, isn't that what attractions are all about?

 

[mrtoad]

From a Magic Kingdom Cast Member:

Grizz,

Does that mean that Toad had been closed and brought back at one point in Disneyland? I am just asking because I was only at Disneyland once and don't know enough about it.

Thanks.

 

[General Grizz]

Grizz,

Does that mean that Toad had been closed and brought back at one point in Disneyland? I am just asking because I was only at Disneyland once and don't know enough about it.

Thanks.

Naw, Toad originated (and has since been present) at Disneyland. I think he was saying that Mr. Toad "moved" there (at least to WDW frequenters), in other words, he's still alive and well across the country.

 

[MKCP 1985]

It is nice to know Mr. Toad is still in the original Disney park, if we can't have him at WDW. The Wind in the Willows is on my son's summer reading list from school. Toad lives!

I do hope Stitch's Great Escape comes out well. I'll be checking it out soon after it opens, even though I was a fan of Alien Encounter. Like I said, I'm not against all new rides replacing old ones - just Pooh replacing Toad.

 

[Laura]

I know exactly what you're saying DarkMeasures. I think you are right.

Personally, I feel really sad when I have all kinds of great memories attached to a ride and then it is removed. And of course that causes resentment for the new ride that is put in it's place.

It pains me to say it, but I really do enjoy Pooh and Test Track, and I even like the new Tiki Birds better than the old. But the thing that really makes me angry is how they went and RUINED Figment by replacing the dreamfinder with that idiot! As much as I try to enjoy the new version of the ride I can't help but be angry the whole time I'm riding, and I can't figure out for the life of me why they went and did that! But other than that, I am not unhappy at all with the "replacement" rides.

Change is always hard at first when you have memories attached to things that were lost. But eventually you'll have new memories of the new stuff and if we all ride Pooh for the next 20 years and our kids grow up knowing that ride only as Pooh and then they go and replace the Pooh ride, we'll be just as sad that Pooh is leaving as we were when Mr. Toad left, KWIM?

 

[Ringo8n24]

If the building for Horizons was structurally unsafe, then it would have been ok with me if they could have reconstructed the ride in another location at Epcot and still build Mission Space. I know Horizons was dated, but it became a classic to the veterans visiting Epcot. I miss it. I love WDW dearly, but there are just some things I am still bitter about. :kiss: There is a certain finesse that Disney has when creating rides, but some of the new ideas seem to lack the full finesse that we know Disney can apply to a new theme.