News Hatbox Ghost coming to Walt Disney World's Haunted Mansion

lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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TheMaxRebo said:
BTW, they did address the location and how he can appear before the Madam Leota scene and they said he can go wherever he wants whenever he wants and is not dependant on your sympathetic vibrations

So I am sure many won't be happy with the answer, but they did think about it and addressed it
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Saying it at a fan event is meaningless. It is something that needs to be communicated in the ride.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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TheMaxRebo said:
Even in the past he was able to leave the mansion, his storyline being that he travels between the mansions around the world, so definitely has always been a bit different than the other spirits

Was stated in this thread earlier that there are logistical /structural reasons why he could not go I the exact same spot as in DLR

Like I said, I am sure won't satisfy some people but they did address it vs ignoring it
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Structural as in the structure of Disney as an organization and how decisions are made. Not structural as in the physical structure of the attraction.
 
VicariousCorpse

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To give Disney a little credit, they have been trying to introduce the idea that the Hatbox Ghost can travel between mansions through the endless hallway for years now with the Haunted Mansion comic.

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lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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vicariouscorpse said:
To give Disney a little credit, they have been trying to introduce the idea that the Hatbox Ghost can travel between mansions through the endless hallway for years now with the Haunted Mansion comic.

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Which is meaningless. If people need supplemental reading to understand an experience then the experience has failed to communicate its story.
 
VicariousCorpse

VicariousCorpse

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lazyboy97o said:
Which is meaningless. If people need supplemental reading to understand an experience then the experience has failed to communicate its story.
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Every single Disney ride has supplemental reading. The average person doesn't need a comic to justify why a ghost is in a haunted house, because at the end of the day, that's what he is. They went through a lot of effort to justify his placement and background for people that care about the lore and story. The care and thought behind him is leaps and bounds above what modern day Disney standards have been set at.
 
lazyboy97o

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vicariouscorpse said:
Every single Disney ride has supplemental reading. The average person doesn't need a comic to justify why a ghost is in a haunted house, because at the end of the day, that's what he is. They went through a lot of effort to justify his placement and background for people that care about the lore and story. The care and thought behind him is leaps and bounds above what modern day Disney standards have been set at.
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That is simply not true. The Haunted Mansion specifically rejected the use of a specific lore and narrative story. Trying to force one through supplemental materials isn’t care and thought because there is no actual delivering on the work.
 
Disnutz311

Disnutz311

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It just blows my mind that we can't even get this animatronic installed in less than a 3 1/2 month period. It has to have been already made and sitting somewhere when they announced it a year ago, right? How long does it take for a 3rd party company to produce an Audio-Animatronic these days? 6 Months?

Did this simple addition really get hung up in approval tape within Disney for the rest? Will Disney ever take note on Universal's proper announcement strategy to opening plan they do so well?
 
FettFan

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lazyboy97o said:
Which is meaningless. If people need supplemental reading to understand an experience then the experience has failed to communicate its story.
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That’s part of their game though. Essentially they paywall huge chunks of story, because there is always another movie, D+ series, novel, or comic book to sell.

Case in point -
In the 1990s, Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire was released as a massive multimedia event, including a comic book series, a novel, and a video game adaptation for PC and Nintendo 64.
Shadows was set in the years between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, and directly connected to those two movies. However, because it was released over a decade after those movies, it wasn’t required viewing.

You could still watch ESB and RotJ without it, and wouldn’t miss anything.


Contrast that to what Disney is doing with Marvel.

You can’t just watch Endgame and then Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness…you need to buy a Disney+ subscription and watch WandaVision to know what’s going on.

Why was Wong training Abomination as a cage fighter in the Shang Chi movie? You need to watch She-Hulk on D+ for that.

Whats the connection between Kamala Khan, Carol Danvers, and Monica Rambeau?
You better get to watching WandaVision and Ms. Marvel.
 
Coaster Lover

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Finally watched the "Haunted Mansion" movie and while I don't agree with the any decision where the movie dictates the ride, after watching the movie, the placement of the hatbox ghost at least sort of makes sense... but then again it only makes sense if you are accepting of the mythology of the hatbox ghost from the movie and not of the hatbox ghost just being another one of the "999 happy haunts"...
 
HMF

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Coaster Lover said:
Finally watched the "Haunted Mansion" movie and while I don't agree with the any decision where the movie dictates the ride, after watching the movie, the placement of the hatbox ghost at least sort of makes sense... but then again it only makes sense if you are accepting of the mythology of the hatbox ghost from the movie and not of the hatbox ghost just being another one of the "999 happy haunts"...
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Many people do not consider the movie mythology as far as the ride is concerned, at least I don't. As a matter of fact I avoided the movie out of fear that something like this might happen.
 
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Coaster Lover said:
Finally watched the "Haunted Mansion" movie and while I don't agree with the any decision where the movie dictates the ride, after watching the movie, the placement of the hatbox ghost at least sort of makes sense... but then again it only makes sense if you are accepting of the mythology of the hatbox ghost from the movie and not of the hatbox ghost just being another one of the "999 happy haunts"...
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It falls apart if you consider him one of the original 999... and the quintessential grim grinning ghost. Sigh.
 
bmr1591

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Disnutz311 said:
It just blows my mind that we can't even get this animatronic installed in less than a 3 1/2 month period. It has to have been already made and sitting somewhere when they announced it a year ago, right? How long does it take for a 3rd party company to produce an Audio-Animatronic these days? 6 Months?

Did this simple addition really get hung up in approval tape within Disney for the rest? Will Disney ever take note on Universal's proper announcement strategy to opening plan they do so well?
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I won’t argue on their slow pace since the initial announcement, but people complain at lack of announcements nowadays. When Disney waits until they’re sure, people get even angrier.
 
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jpeden

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In the Parks
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It blows my mind that we went through the entire Halloween season without this installation finalized. I’m honestly starting to wonder if we will see it in “late November” as originally announced.
 

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