News Hatbox Ghost coming to Walt Disney World's Haunted Mansion

zipadee999

zipadee999

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I really hope that they give him the same spot he got at DL. It makes a lot of sense with the original story of the ride. The layout is intended to give the impression that you were so terrified by what you saw in the attic that you fled to the balcony and fell to the graveyard. His DL placement really sells this aspect of the ‘storyline,’ especially given that he is one of the more intimidating spooks.
 
999th Happy Haunt

999th Happy Haunt

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zipadee999 said:
I really hope that they give him the same spot he got at DL. It makes a lot of sense with the original story of the ride. The layout is intended to give the impression that you were so terrified by what you saw in the attic that you fled to the balcony and fell to the graveyard. His DL placement really sells this aspect of the ‘storyline,’ especially given that he is one of the more intimidating spooks.
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I hear this story a lot about how this is how the scene was meant to be interpreted but is this even true? I have never found an official source that claims this to be the actual “story”. Seems more like fan headcanon to me.
 
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999th Happy Haunt said:
I hear this story a lot about how this is how the scene was meant to be interpreted but is this even true? I have never found an official source that claims this to be the actual “story”. Seems more like fan headcanon to me.
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It was my understanding that's why you go backwards out of the attic. It certainly is set up that way at Phantom Manor in Paris (which of course is significnatly darker than any of the other HM rides) with the Phantom appearing to throw you out of the attic if I remember correctly.
 
zipadee999

zipadee999

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999th Happy Haunt said:
I hear this story a lot about how this is how the scene was meant to be interpreted but is this even true? I have never found an official source that claims this to be the actual “story”. Seems more like fan headcanon to me.
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It was mentioned by Tony Baxter as what was explained to him for the reasoning of the descent, and it was part of the story in one of the 1969 promotional records that narrated a ‘ride-through’ and described every scene as if it were a story.

It also ties in to the ‘falling to our death’ idea. The Claude Coats half of the attraction has darker tones and the spirits do not seem friendly. The attic is the epitome of this, as (especially in the 1969 version) there is nowhere in the rest of the attraction where the ghosts seem most malicious than in the attic. As the story goes, you’re scared out onto the balcony and fall to your ‘death.’ After this point and into the Marc Davis half of the attraction, all of the ghosts are friendly and seem to want to party with you, almost like you’re one of them now. This idea wasn’t mentioned in any promotional records like the other, but it’s been stated by a few imagineers and makes sense from the rider perspective!
 
Tha Realest

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Cmdr_Crimson said:
You'd think it would tie in to some kind of movie that was coming out or something....Nah, not in this day in age...
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Tremendous lost opportunity here for Disney. Especially since the theatrical releases are now considered a “loss leader” for merchandise sales and D+. But, given the tepid projections for The Haunted Mansion, maybe they figure by Aug 10 audiences and consumers will have already forgotten about the movie that was released two weeks prior.
 
Drdcm

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zipadee999 said:
I really hope that they give him the same spot he got at DL. It makes a lot of sense with the original story of the ride. The layout is intended to give the impression that you were so terrified by what you saw in the attic that you fled to the balcony and fell to the graveyard. His DL placement really sells this aspect of the ‘storyline,’ especially given that he is one of the more intimidating spooks.
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I hear you. Although I would say that the murderous bride wielding a hatchet would make me flee off the balcony as well.
 
Drdcm

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
Tremendous lost opportunity here for Disney. Especially since the theatrical releases are now considered a “loss leader” for merchandise sales and D+. But, given the tepid projections for The Haunted Mansion, maybe they figure by Aug 10 audiences and consumers will have already forgotten about the movie that was released two weeks prior.
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I’m looking forward to seeing it. Will be the first Disney movie since the pandemic that will pull me away from home. It’ll probably suck, but should still be fun. I’m of the unpopular opinion in that I enjoy the Eddie Murphy one. I don’t think it s a good movie… but it is a fun one.
 
Bocabear

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Drdcm said:
I’m looking forward to seeing it. Will be the first Disney movie since the pandemic that will pull me away from home. It’ll probably suck, but should still be fun. I’m of the unpopular opinion in that I enjoy the Eddie Murphy one. I don’t think it s a good movie… but it is a fun one.
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The Eddie Murphy movie, while not good, had astounding production design...The art direction and design of the whole movie is gorgeous, especially the credits seen at the beginning... giving the back story. That is the movie I want to see... How did Madame Leota come to the house? Who is Little Leota? Who are the portraits in the stretching gallery of? I would love to see a movie that handles the full back story of the mansion from it's building to present day haunts... (a series like American Horror Story but more family friendly?) Use the WDW New England Manor (there have been two movies now set in the New Orleans Mansion)...and tell the tale layering the story with the ghosts and how they ended up there. It would be a fantastic D+ series if done well... not too light....
 
Epcot82Guy

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Bocabear said:
The Eddie Murphy movie, while not good, had astounding production design...The art direction and design of the whole movie is gorgeous, especially the credits seen at the beginning... giving the back story. That is the movie I want to see... How did Madame Leota come to the house? Who is Little Leota? Who are the portraits in the stretching gallery of? I would love to see a movie that handles the full back story of the mansion from it's building" to present day haunts... (a series like American Horror Story but more family friendly?) Use the WDW New England Manor (there have been two movies now set in the New Orleans Mansion)...and tell the tale layering the story with the ghosts and how they ended up there. It would be a fantastic D+ series if done well... not too light....
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"Disney's 999" could be a really fun series if, as you said, they were willing to make it dark enough.
 
TheMaxRebo

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Squishy said:
Possibility they save it till late sept or oct so they can talk about it at DestinationD in sept?
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Certainly possible, but they already announced this last D23 event and if they don't have enough other new stuff that they need to hold the addition of one element to one ride across multiple years to D23 events that is not a good sign
 
999th Happy Haunt

999th Happy Haunt

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zipadee999 said:
It was mentioned by Tony Baxter as what was explained to him for the reasoning of the descent, and it was part of the story in one of the 1969 promotional records that narrated a ‘ride-through’ and described every scene as if it were a story.

It also ties in to the ‘falling to our death’ idea. The Claude Coats half of the attraction has darker tones and the spirits do not seem friendly. The attic is the epitome of this, as (especially in the 1969 version) there is nowhere in the rest of the attraction where the ghosts seem most malicious than in the attic. As the story goes, you’re scared out onto the balcony and fall to your ‘death.’ After this point and into the Marc Davis half of the attraction, all of the ghosts are friendly and seem to want to party with you, almost like you’re one of them now. This idea wasn’t mentioned in any promotional records like the other, but it’s been stated by a few imagineers and makes sense from the rider perspective!
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Interesting to know that it’s backed by Imagineers. Thanks!
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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Epcot82Guy said:
"Disney's 999" could be a really fun series if, as you said, they were willing to make it dark enough.
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"Dark enough" would be the key to it's success... The new film looks a lot darker than the original...
I wonder if Guillermo Del Toro would ever direct a series... He can do beautiful and dark like no one else....
Season 1 could be the whole prequel with the house being built for a new bride...
 
ppete1975

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Magicart87 said:
I'd think installation would be fairly quick. It's the testing and getting him show-ready (along with vehicle and ride ops changes) that will take some time. It's not a Spirit Halloween decoration. It's a little more than Plug n Play. Perhaps they're going to take this brief downtime to set him up under scrims and test in the off hours, similar to what they did with the one in DL until such time that he's made ready to materialize.
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he might already be there under a dark scrim, it really wouldnt take much. Or all of the main work has been done and covered and maybe the torso has to be put on. Disney COULD do these things quickly. They seem to choose not to do that though.
 

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