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Harry Potter ride good idea
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JimboJones123
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I don't think you can come up with more than 1 or 2 Disney Features that don't offend religous beliefs. Name one??? Each has something devious in it. THAT'S OKAY. Good characters do bad things in each. There is no JESUS in Disney movies. Even in Disney's ultimate Jesuslike movie, Mufasa was not very forgiving and welcoming of hyenas, and nor was Simba willing to forgive. Moral highground is a stupid arguemnet. We saw that in the "partner benefits" debate a few years ago. I'm sure it really hurt disney when the southern baptist conference voted to ban disney back in '96. They did so bad, WDW had the most prosperous years in history up until 2001. If they build a good ride -- DO IT, if it ends up like carpets of Alladin, DON'T!
CaptainMichael
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Yeah, I had trouble getting into that one the first time, but I got through it and haven't been the same since.Shaman said:
A lord of the rings or even harry potter attraction, would never fit into the disney ambience. It is just too dark of a them, especially to build an entire land off of. Could you imagine scary and grotesque orcs from middle earth walking around in their own land with giant battle axes. It just doesnt click with Disney.
PintoColvig
Active Member
Now you've gone to meddlin'.:animwink:Lee said:
majortom1981
Active Member
one problem
The movies are done by warner brothers.
Six flags holds a lot of rights to warner brothers stuff.
I think you would see a harry potter ride at six flags before you see it at disney.
The movies are done by warner brothers.
Six flags holds a lot of rights to warner brothers stuff.
I think you would see a harry potter ride at six flags before you see it at disney.
CaptainMichael
Well-Known Member
Exactly! I couldn't have said it any better myself, especially C.Lee said:
CaptainMichael
Well-Known Member
I think what he is saying is that Disney is interested in obtaining the rights for building a Harry Potter theme park attraction, and that if JKR was interested in giving out the rights, Disney would be the prefferable choice.comics101 said:
Hakunamatata
Le Meh
It would even be more Awesome if Disney got the rights and shelved them, right next to "The Fifth Gate" and "Monorail Expansion".comics101 said:
dmagickingdom
New Member
unkadug said:And your reply contributes WHAT?
At least I was pointing out a place to find other information.
My contribution was that i agree with some that it would not be a bad idea to do a harry potter ride but it might not be a best fit into a disney atmosphere...
my indirect point to you was that you felt you HAD to reply to this guy and put your two cents in that he was not going to get a response because this topic had come up before...Instead of putting your word in on something that turned out so far to be an 8 page thread, you could have just not posted anything and let the thread run itself to 10 pages or 1 page if you would have been correct.
Dont get me wrong...it's not just you...There are a lot of people that post stupid comments like yours (and mine for that matter) instead of focusing on the thread.
Although I like the Harry Potter idea I think it might be a good idea sometime in the future to create a Narnia attraction depending on how the series progresses...the set piece at MGM attracts a lot of attention and that could be a good fit for a vacant studio building eventually. Just a thought but I guess it's in the same ballpark as the Harry Potter idea.
slappy magoo
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If Disney came up with an interesting fun ride, I'd ride it regardless of the theme. I think RNRC is an incredible attraction, but the pre-show is so lame it makes me throw up a little every time I have to experience it (in other words, it's no "shocker" for me). If they were able to make an interesting HP ride, then hooray for them, but I'm not gonna get my nips in a twist just because it's a HP-based attraction.
Now, as to the possibility of Disney being able to actually make a HP-themed attraction...
I could be wrong, and if so, I apologize, but I believe Warner has an agreemenr with JKR over all HP-based merchandising rights. Every t-shirt, pencil set, bed sheet and toy based on HP has to be signed off on by WB's AND Rowling's "people." And this means, most likely, Disney would have to negotiate rights with both of them in order to have an attraction.
Now, I know WB at least USED TO OWN Six Flags amusement parks. I think they recently sold their interest in it, or maybe they only sold part of their interest. If they are still at least part-owners in Six Flags, then WB would make it difficult at the least for any other theme park to license the rights to a movie. Even if WB didn't currently have anything in development for a ride at SF, the possibility that SOME DAY, THEY MIGHT, would be enough to refuse anyone else the rights to make a ride. And even if WB only held the rights to merchandise based on the movies themselves (rather then anything to do with the books), WB would be able to argue that anything visual that can't be directly attributed to an illustration from one of the books is based on their designs from the movie(s), and is therefore copyrighted. There may have been illustrations of Hogwart's Castle before the movies, but if any one room in the castle was never made into an illustration before the movie, and THAT room plays in a Disney-created attraction, WB's lawyer goon squad could hold up the ride while a settlement is reached. There would be so many potential legal loopholes that Disney (or any other company that owned a theme park) might decide it's not worth the risk unless WB is part of the agreement.
After WB/Rowling sign off on the deal, you then have to deal with the talent, too. WB may hold the rights to the actors' likenesses, which would mean AAs could be made, but if you wanted to film the actors or use their voices, they'd have to get paid. Probably wouldn't be that big of a deal unless one ofthe actors held out for some more serious scratch. And for many fans, to do anything with the cast and have to replace one of them who didn't be involved would be a sin on par with "Other-Jan" from the Brady Bunch Variety Hour.
Who?
Exactly. :animwink:
So...would it be cool for Disney to have a HP ride? Possibly, depending on how cool the ride itself turns out to be. Is it likely that Disney will ever make an HP ride? A lot of people outside of Disney's sphere of power would have to be satisfied before an attraction ever got off the ground. Lucas owns the rights to both Star Wars & Indiana Jones (20th. Century Fox and Paramount, respectively, were distributors with no ownership over content), so Disney only had to make Lucas happy. Disney obtained the rights to many other movies during their licensing agreement with MGM. I have no idea how much of a pain it was to get the rights to Alien from Fox. But how willing would Rowling and WB be to let someone else profit from one of their properties, especially if WB still owns theme parks themselves?
Now, as to the possibility of Disney being able to actually make a HP-themed attraction...
I could be wrong, and if so, I apologize, but I believe Warner has an agreemenr with JKR over all HP-based merchandising rights. Every t-shirt, pencil set, bed sheet and toy based on HP has to be signed off on by WB's AND Rowling's "people." And this means, most likely, Disney would have to negotiate rights with both of them in order to have an attraction.
Now, I know WB at least USED TO OWN Six Flags amusement parks. I think they recently sold their interest in it, or maybe they only sold part of their interest. If they are still at least part-owners in Six Flags, then WB would make it difficult at the least for any other theme park to license the rights to a movie. Even if WB didn't currently have anything in development for a ride at SF, the possibility that SOME DAY, THEY MIGHT, would be enough to refuse anyone else the rights to make a ride. And even if WB only held the rights to merchandise based on the movies themselves (rather then anything to do with the books), WB would be able to argue that anything visual that can't be directly attributed to an illustration from one of the books is based on their designs from the movie(s), and is therefore copyrighted. There may have been illustrations of Hogwart's Castle before the movies, but if any one room in the castle was never made into an illustration before the movie, and THAT room plays in a Disney-created attraction, WB's lawyer goon squad could hold up the ride while a settlement is reached. There would be so many potential legal loopholes that Disney (or any other company that owned a theme park) might decide it's not worth the risk unless WB is part of the agreement.
After WB/Rowling sign off on the deal, you then have to deal with the talent, too. WB may hold the rights to the actors' likenesses, which would mean AAs could be made, but if you wanted to film the actors or use their voices, they'd have to get paid. Probably wouldn't be that big of a deal unless one ofthe actors held out for some more serious scratch. And for many fans, to do anything with the cast and have to replace one of them who didn't be involved would be a sin on par with "Other-Jan" from the Brady Bunch Variety Hour.
Who?
Exactly. :animwink:
So...would it be cool for Disney to have a HP ride? Possibly, depending on how cool the ride itself turns out to be. Is it likely that Disney will ever make an HP ride? A lot of people outside of Disney's sphere of power would have to be satisfied before an attraction ever got off the ground. Lucas owns the rights to both Star Wars & Indiana Jones (20th. Century Fox and Paramount, respectively, were distributors with no ownership over content), so Disney only had to make Lucas happy. Disney obtained the rights to many other movies during their licensing agreement with MGM. I have no idea how much of a pain it was to get the rights to Alien from Fox. But how willing would Rowling and WB be to let someone else profit from one of their properties, especially if WB still owns theme parks themselves?
Hakunamatata
Le Meh
Disney has more plans that anyone will ever know. Its somewhat like the US Military. They have plans for almost any scenerio.comics101 said:They have plans for a "Fifth Gate" on the shelve? since when??
TiggerBouncing2
New Member
Harry Potter has nothing to do with Disney.