Harry Potter IS making a difference!!

[janoimagine]

People will find all kinds of silly reasons to be unhappy anyway. Labeling harry potter a children's book shows that in this thread....

Didn't Jo write the first book for her children? Maybe you should look into that.

Harry Potter / and it's author evolved from the first book to it's last, they matured considerably. I wouldn't call the last 2 (or) 3 books 'Tween' books, they are very adult in theme, (Whether you are from Great Britain or the States) and I think that is why you have such a broad range, and age, of fans, but to label the series as a whole a 'Tween' series is grossly innacurate.

Tweens ... by definition are girls between 9 and 14. Harry Potter appeals to the masses, where as Twilight seems to be heavily favored by the young female market, hence why it is called a 'Tween' series.

 

[kucarachi]

I think harry potter is fine now but 10 years from now.....well is anybody really talking about lord of the rings anymore? And guys living in their parents basement that actually dress up like gandolf dont count.

I feel like im in a high school picnic when i go to universal. Most of the parents are fighting. You got your young people who say F this, S This like its replacing the word (The). I understand its for a more independent crowd and its a fun place but really with all the money they had, they used 2 old coaster when they could have started from scratch and made something legendary. I havent been to the new forbidden journey yet but when my son is old enough im sure we will. I'd rather watch Harry Potter on TV over almost any disney movie....but when it comes to life long memories we are DVC members and plan on going 49 more years if we are breathing and know our own names.

And as far as harry potter being a childrens book.......with a murder rate of about 40 to 50 in the whole series.....its not something you read your child fast asleep to.

 

[janoimagine]

I think harry potter is fine now but 10 years from now.....well is anybody really talking about lord of the rings anymore?

Well, Tolkiens series is a classic, and has been around longer than both Twilight and Potter ... and considering Forbes ranked him the 5th top-earning dead celebrity in 2009, and that The Lord of the Rings has sold more than 150 Million copies worldwide, and the closest Harry Potter book was the Deathly Hallows at 44 million ... not to mention Peter Jackson is doing a live action version of 'The Hobbit' .... I would say Harry and the 'Tween' vampires have a long way to go to catch up with Tolkien.

Or is my math wrong. :lol:

Think before you post.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Of course there are differences between Twilight and HP. There are differences between Hannah Montana and Twilight. It's all different styles and different people. There are bound to be a very large amount of differences.

LOL, that's your opinion, as is my saying it's a tween franchise. Stating an opinion is never wrong. However, I do have the author of the books on my side. So I am quite happy with my opinion.How do you know what the Twilight books are geared towards if you never even read the author's styling? That's simply just plain ignorance. Sounds sheepish to me. People told me Twilight is about such and such, so I am going to follow the crowd to hate Twilight just to hate it....blah blah blah.

Again, why is it such a problem/argument that it is a tween franchise?

You never stated it as opinion... You state it as fact... And as fact, you are 100% wrong... And how do I know who Twilight is geared too?? Oh, I dunno, maybe from the people I know who actually seen th movies and read the books.. They all agree, Twilight is geared toward teenage girls, and possibly even women in general... Seriously, name me 1 vampire movie geared to adult males that have "hot" male vampires that make the women swoon.... Yep, none...

See, I don't follow crowds... And I don't hate Twilight... The teenage love story does not appeal to me, as it doesn't appeal to majority of men... I tried to watch the first movie, and I shut it off after 15 minutes... Why? I am not the intended audience... Does that mean some men won't like Twilight? Of course not.. I'm sure there are some men who do like the books and movies... Just like I don't hate Hannah Montana or iCarly... But, I also don't and won't watch the shows or movies or anything else they come out with... Again, I am not the demographic for these shows...

And heck, I even disagree with people here who hate the latest 3 Star Wars movies.... While Attack of the Clones may have been the worse of the three, I think Revenge of the Sith was fine... I even liked Phantom Menace.. I'll never say anyone is wrong for stating an opinion that the movies were garbage.. To each their own...

Just don't state something as a fact if you mean for it to be your opinion...

 

[GLaDOS]

I think harry potter is fine now but 10 years from now.....well is anybody really talking about lord of the rings anymore? And guys living in their parents basement that actually dress up like gandolf dont count.

I feel like im in a high school picnic when i go to universal. Most of the parents are fighting. You got your young people who say F this, S This like its replacing the word (The). I understand its for a more independent crowd and its a fun place but really with all the money they had, they used 2 old coaster when they could have started from scratch and made something legendary.

There's just so much about this post...

 

[reactortrip]

You never stated it as opinion... You state it as fact... And as fact, you are 100% wrong... And how do I know who Twilight is geared too?? Oh, I dunno, maybe from the people I know who actually seen th movies and read the books.. They all agree, Twilight is geared toward teenage girls, and possibly even women in general... Seriously, name me 1 vampire movie geared to adult males that have "hot" male vampires that make the women swoon.... Yep, none...

See, I don't follow crowds... And I don't hate Twilight... The teenage love story does not appeal to me, as it doesn't appeal to majority of men... I tried to watch the first movie, and I shut it off after 15 minutes... Why? I am not the intended audience... Does that mean some men won't like Twilight? Of course not.. I'm sure there are some men who do like the books and movies... Just like I don't hate Hannah Montana or iCarly... But, I also don't and won't watch the shows or movies or anything else they come out with... Again, I am not the demographic for these shows...

And heck, I even disagree with people here who hate the latest 3 Star Wars movies.... While Attack of the Clones may have been the worse of the three, I think Revenge of the Sith was fine... I even liked Phantom Menace.. I'll never say anyone is wrong for stating an opinion that the movies were garbage.. To each their own...

Just don't state something as a fact if you mean for it to be your opinion...

So you would tell the author that she is dead wrong that her books aren't written for the crowd she wrote them for?

Ok you want fact. Go to your local library or book store and let me know the category Harry Potter is located. Or you can just go to barnesandnoble.com

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Ha...ling/e/9780545010221/?itm=9&USRI=harry+potter

Kids and Teens is the category. Game Set Match

Have you read OotP? It's about as teen angst as you can get.

 

[reactortrip]

Women liked the dude from Underworld. True Blood also has some dudes that women like in it. Interview with a Vampire was geared toward every adult.

 

[flavious27]

Lucasland would be bigger. Star Wars appeals to both kids and men in their 40s. Depending on the success of the upcoming films (Captain America, Avengers, Spiderman reboot), Marvel could conceivably compete.

Unless they release episodes 7 - 9, there will not be a star wars themed land paid by disney.

 

[reactortrip]

Tweens ... by definition are girls between 9 and 14. Harry Potter appeals to the masses, where as Twilight seems to be heavily favored by the young female market, hence why it is called a 'Tween' series.

If it applies to just girls, then I agree it's not a "tween" book. I mean just that age group, not gender restraint.

 

[reactortrip]

HP is meant to reach a broad audience... The first book, I will say, sure is a children's book... However, as the story/franchise progressed, I venture to say the story is anything but child-like... JK knew she had something good on her hands and styled her writing for ALL to enjoy...

Most of it including majors deaths were planned before PS was published.

 

[flavious27]

I think harry potter is fine now but 10 years from now.....well is anybody really talking about lord of the rings anymore? And guys living in their parents basement that actually dress up like gandolf dont count.

I feel like im in a high school picnic when i go to universal. Most of the parents are fighting. You got your young people who say F this, S This like its replacing the word (The). I understand its for a more independent crowd and its a fun place but really with all the money they had, they used 2 old coaster when they could have started from scratch and made something legendary. I havent been to the new forbidden journey yet but when my son is old enough im sure we will. I'd rather watch Harry Potter on TV over almost any disney movie....but when it comes to life long memories we are DVC members and plan on going 49 more years if we are breathing and know our own names.

And as far as harry potter being a childrens book.......with a murder rate of about 40 to 50 in the whole series.....its not something you read your child fast asleep to.

LOTR has been around just as long as DL, there have been numerous movies made. It is still mentioned because it is a classic book series, oh and the hobbit is being made right now. A LOTR land would be a task that is right up WDI's alley and they would produce a land that would be compelling to visit. Can it happen? It could have when Miramax had the rights in the 90's, but it is doubtful that TW and Disney would collaborate.

 

[flavious27]

If Disney ever bought the rights to Twilight and tried to create a land based off the books/movies, I will sell my DVC points and never step foot into WDW every again... Heck, I'd never buy another Disney item for as long as I live...

yeah, same here. there will be alot of mad people, except for steph mayer. if disney wanted a vampire series, they would just produce it themselves.

 

[_Scar]

I feel fantastic knowing Rick Scott will be the deciding factor.


Florida is in great hands.

 

[flavious27]

ABC Family has shown the Harry Potter movies long before the land was announced and built in IOA... There are contracts that need to be fulfilled... Also, as jan said, money speaks volumes... How else can you explain why Shrek's Christmas special is on ABC??

I believe HP's theme music was also played as background music in DHS at one point too, correct?

Well the score is by John Williams, he re-used part of what he did with Home Alone. Listen to Somewhere in My Memory.

 

[imagineer boy]

Well the score is by John Williams, he re-used part of what he did with Home Alone. Listen to Somewhere in My Memory.

It sounds similar, but he certainly didn't reuse it.

 

[ChrisFL]

John Williams doesn't re-use musical scores...unlike, say, Danny Elfman

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Again, why is it such a problem/argument that it is a tween franchise?

It's an argument because some people disagree with the premise.

 

[flavious27]

It sounds similar, but he certainly didn't reuse it.

There are portions of both scores that sound similar enough that someone would get sued over it. I am not bashing the music, it helped to tell the tale of the movies.

 

[lebeau]

True to story and conceptual design, I would rather go with Lucas on this one unless Walt himself has been resurrected. As a Potter fan, seeing Jo's world through her eyes made it special. I want to see what Lucas wanted us to see.

I felt that way before he made Greedo shoot first. Everything he's done since then has made me think the Star Wars franchise would be better served by someone else - anyone else. I trust the Imagineers more than I do the creative force behind Jar Jar Binks.

 

[lebeau]

Wow. Some of the posts on this thread make my head hurt!

Let me preface the following comments with the disclaimer that I am not a fan of Harry Potter or Twilight.

Most of the negative comments about these two franchise reflect a cultural ignorance on the part of the poster. It's not for you. You don't get it. That's fine. Let the intended audience enjoy it. Both franchises have broader appeal than teens/tweens. Much, much broader than you think.

(And both will be culturally relevant for a while yet. I doubt Harry Potter will become a pop culture footnote in my lifetime. The shelflife on Twilight seems shorter, but no doubt it'll be around for years to come.)

The comment about Lord of the Rings being irrelevant... I don't even know where to begin! So, so, so wrong on every conceivable level. I can't bring myself to address it in any serious way.

Why are people so hung up on franchises anyway? Some of the best Disney attractions aren't based on franchises. And others (like Splash Mountain) are based on movies that are actually culturally irrelevant.

The odds of Disney acquiring the rights to Twilight and making a theme park land or attraction based on it are slim to none. (I'm leaning towards "none" but once upon a time I'd have said the same thing about American Idol). But so what if they did? You would really stop going? I don't think so.

And the comments about HP showing on ABC family? Guys, these companies are way bigger than the theme parks. They are gonna make money any way they can. If a competitor makes a buck as a result, they don't care as long as it's good for their own bottom line.

Whew. End multiple mii-rants.