Prince-1
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Laughable made up nonsense. It might be your belief this was happening, but you have absolutely no proof to back you up.
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Rumor Hall of Presidents Replaced by Muppets American History Show???
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Laughable made up nonsense. It might be your belief this was happening, but you have absolutely no proof to back you up.
Prince-1
Well-Known Member
Consumer did.
Vegas Disney Fan
Well-Known Member
I love HoP but capacity probably would benefit from being shorter, a 15 minute show would probably get twice as many guests in a day as the current show. Easier to convince people to wait 10 minutes rather than 20 minutes and also easier to convince them to sacrifice 30 minutes of their day for a queue/ride rather than 45 minutes. I just want it to survive, if cutting the current Presidents speech and a few more minutes of show accomplishes that I’m for it.
Consumer
Well-Known Member
'To Honor America' removal
Splash Mountain removal
The Muppets Present... Great Moments in American History removal
Frontierland Shootin' Arcade removal
Rivers of America removal
Jungle Cruise alterations
Pirates of the Caribbean alterations
Country Bear Jamboree alterations
Peter Pan alterations
Tinkerbell Meet n Greet cut
Mickey Avenue rumor
No American flag bunting on Main Street USA at Disneyland
No Disneyland dedication speech in 2022
No, Disney has not altered their parks to appease woke ideology whatsoever. Anyone saying so is a conspiracy theorist.
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The Leader of the Club
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I’ll bite.
Altering the finale of MSEP was a way to add new IP to a parade that hasn’t been updated since the 70s.
Great Moments in American History was removed as part of larger budget cuts. Not because people were offended by Miss Piggy as Paul Revere.
Rivers of America is underutilized capacity being replaced with 2 rides based on a popular IP. It’s not leaving because of Woke, it’s because it’s not optimal usage of space.
Alternations to Jungle Cruise and Pirates are not targeting Americana.
Mickey Avenue in the U.S. is a rumor that never had any validation from a credible source.
Budget cuts likely hit the American Flag bunting on MS as well as the dedication speech. Not “wokeness.” They still use Walt’s dedication speech and celebrate American holidays.
Consumer
Well-Known Member
Excuses. The Stories Matter Initiative is a very real thing.
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The Leader of the Club
Well-Known Member
Excuses. The Stories Matter Initiative is a very real thing.
Disney, Built on Fairy Tales and Fantasy, Confronts the Real World
The entertainment behemoth spent decades avoiding even the whiff of controversy. But it has increasingly been drawn into the partisan political fray.www.nytimes.com
It is a real thing, but it’s not actively out to scrub Americana from the parks. If it were, the parks wouldn’t still be celebrating Veterans or Independence Day or adding new Walt experiences. The goal is to make the parks more welcoming to all guests. Do I think some bad decisions have been made in service of that, yes, but on the whole I don’t think it’s a bad thing.
Chi84
Premium Member
I’m glad you agree. So maybe you can stop making up nonsense now.
Replaced by another American setting.
The fact that they had added it during this supposed time of uber wokeness doesn't count?
Replaced by an American setting for DVCers.
Replaced by a ride whose backdrop is a take on American National Parks and an IP whose first movie was pure Americana.
That's not Disney getting rid of America, now, is it.
Would you like to extend your thesis to just general anti-cultural-sensitivity?
LOL. You admit so much of this is rumor.
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In recent years, Burbank has relied heavily on the sensitivity industry with it's experts and consultants to identify every tiny problematic historic issue that the company has on display.Excuses. The Stories Matter Initiative is a very real thing.
Disney, Built on Fairy Tales and Fantasy, Confronts the Real World
The entertainment behemoth spent decades avoiding even the whiff of controversy. But it has increasingly been drawn into the partisan political fray.
The most hilarious one was that Dr. Facilier was identified as insensitive by these experts! This is why Tiana's was not allowed to have this awesome villian in the ride!! I laughed hard at that one.
Thank God Tokyo Disneyland does not use sensitivity experts in their two parks. I spent a week out there and it was sooo refreshing to see how OLC runs those parks. Best two theme parks I have ever been to. Its not even close.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
There is some kind of trend going on here. What this means and why, however, is up for debate IMO. Calling it nonsense and/or conspiracy seems dismissive though.
The Leader of the Club
Well-Known Member
Which is why he’s listed as one of the villains that inspired MK’s villains land! And why he keeps showing up at Halloween events!
Source?
Tian's creators?..."That" team pushed the idology way too far.Which is why he’s listed as one of the villains that inspired MK’s villains land! And why he keeps showing up at Halloween events!
DisCOT_97
Well-Known Member
Did they not just install paintings by George bush in the American Adventure??? if Disney is so “woke” for you why are you giving them money and wasting your life discussing them on an Disney fan board?
Consumer
Well-Known Member
I don't.
Chi84
Premium Member
If you can’t even identify the trend, the theory lacks substance.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Well, some identified what they see as the trend, and others have attempted to dispute it. I think that is all fair game, and a conversation/debate to have for those that want to be involved in it...as long as it doesn't break forum rules.
Chi84
Premium Member
Don’t you think it goes too far when someone states a rumor that never came to fruition and then attributes it to a particular ideology? How do you know it wasn’t something simply made up?
DisneyCane
Well-Known Member
I definitely agree. I don't mind long shows because I visit frequently so it isn't "costing" me time to experience something else. However, back in the day when I tried to maximize rides per day, I would avoid things like Universe of Energy because it was sooooooo looooooooong.