Rumor Hall of Presidents Replaced by Muppets American History Show???

dennis-in-ct

Well-Known Member
I didn't want to get political, but I feel this needs to be addressed: Disney's removal of Americana from their theme parks is the exact kind of behavior from corporations that has increasingly pushed voters towards conservative candidates. Believe it or not, most Americans like America and think cancel culture is stupid. While I understand your argument is that Disney would make this change for business reasons, to many Americans it's going to sound like "woke Disney" is making another attack on American values.

I did not vote for Trump, but half of this country did. So, I say keep the format, update the speaking role for Trump and keep it going as is. The people of this country have voted and they chose him. So be it.

As for "woke". "Woke" to me, is just having an awareness that not everyone is treated the same way. I feel it is human nature to believe if you are being treated a certain way, then the thought is, everyone is treated this way. And that is not true. Not everyone is treated the same. "Woke" is having "empathy".

A society should be judged on how it treats it's smallest minority. Disney sticks up for "everyone" which is the decent, HUMAN thing to do.
 

BagOfGroceries

Well-Known Member
I did not vote for Trump, but half of this country did. So, I say keep the format, update the speaking role for Trump and keep it going as is. The people of this country have voted and they chose him. So be it.

As for "woke". "Woke" to me, is just having an awareness that not everyone is treated the same way. I feel it is human nature to believe if you are being treated a certain way, then the thought is, everyone is treated this way. And that is not true. Not everyone is treated the same. "Woke" is having "empathy".

A society should be judged on how it treats it's smallest minority. Disney sticks up for "everyone" which is the decent, HUMAN thing to do.
I get it, I do, but you have to understand there will be more CM harassment. Gut the HOP. It’s just time.
 

The Leader of the Club

Well-Known Member
Here's my question: who is the Hall of Presidents for in 2024?
Kids are bored by it. Most adults use it as a nap opportunity, if they go in at all. Foreign guests don't care about US leaders. It doesn't even have a catchy song like Carousel of Progress or Tiki Room.

Besides, there's a much better tribute to American History that's only a monorail ride away.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
I get it, I do, but you have to understand there will be more CM harassment. Gut the HOP. It’s just time.
You are probably right HoP will be gutted eventually

It will be gutted because TWDC is changing things all over the parks in order to not trigger folks.

Pirates, jungle cruise, Peter Pan, country bears ( to be honest, blood on the saddle never felt right to me), soon Hunted Mansion and eventually HoP. There are others I have forgotten.

The challenge for TWDC is, everyone is different and different folks get triggered by different things. If you look hard enough, there are things all over the place that will trigger someone.

TWDC will continue to sanitize as they see fit.
 

PizzaPlanet

Well-Known Member
If HoP does end up sticking around for a few more decades, I’d love to know how many more figures they could theoretically fit on the stage. Looks like there’s still plenty of room but there’s a gotta be a limit
 

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
You are probably right HoP will be gutted eventually

It will be gutted because TWDC is changing things all over the parks in order to not trigger folks.

Pirates, jungle cruise, Peter Pan, country bears ( to be honest, blood on the saddle never felt right to me), soon Hunted Mansion and eventually HoP. There are others I have forgotten.

The challenge for TWDC is, everyone is different and different folks get triggered by different things. If you look hard enough, there are things all over the place that will trigger someone.

TWDC will continue to sanitize as they see fit.
It’ll go from USA-USA
To
More IP - More IP
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
I get it, I do, but you have to understand there will be more CM harassment. Gut the HOP. It’s just time.
Harassment by who?!? The “tolerant left” ;). How bout this idea. Harass a CM get banned for life!!! Just a thought. Do you hear what you and others are saying right now?!? But yes its the supporters of the man who just won the presidency yet again who are the problem.
 

Consumer

Well-Known Member
I did not vote for Trump, but half of this country did. So, I say keep the format, update the speaking role for Trump and keep it going as is. The people of this country have voted and they chose him. So be it.

As for "woke". "Woke" to me, is just having an awareness that not everyone is treated the same way. I feel it is human nature to believe if you are being treated a certain way, then the thought is, everyone is treated this way. And that is not true. Not everyone is treated the same. "Woke" is having "empathy".

A society should be judged on how it treats it's smallest minority. Disney sticks up for "everyone" which is the decent, HUMAN thing to do.
Respectfully, I'm not concerned what "woke" means to you because I'm not referring to you. "Woke" to the majority of Americans mean hating America. Removing Liberty Square, a land celebrating the founding of this country, would only reinforce that idea, driving the wedge deeper.

If Disney is actually interested in making money, they should double down on the Americana within the parks. That is what the people actually want.
 

Brer Panther

Well-Known Member
I still don't get it. Muppet-Vision 3D is apparently on the chopping block because the Muppets seemingly aren't popular anymore. But the Muppets, despite their supposed unpopularity, are being considered for a Hall of Presidents replacement?
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
If HoP does end up sticking around for a few more decades, I’d love to know how many more figures they could theoretically fit on the stage. Looks like there’s still plenty of room but there’s a gotta be a limit
I have always thought of that, but these days, I am positive HoP will be gone as we know it long before they run out of space.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
HOP has been around what 53 years now? People think we should end that because one side wins or loses?
My reasoning for ending it is that politics (of the highly charged and adversarial type we have today) has no place in the Magic Kingdom. And yes, like it or not, a show that includes animatronics of living presidents is bound to stir ideological passions—on all sides.
 

r_1707

New Member
Here's my question: who is the Hall of Presidents for in 2024?
Kids are bored by it. Most adults use it as a nap opportunity, if they go in at all. Foreign guests don't care about US leaders. It doesn't even have a catchy song like Carousel of Progress or Tiki Room.

Besides, there's a much better tribute to American History that's only a monorail ride away.
I'm a 16 year old from the UK - I go to Disney every few years with my family. HoP is by far my favourite attraction in Magic Kingdom!! I get what you're saying about younger kids maybe being bored by it but I know I would be so crushed if HoP is replaced by the Muppets!
 

BagOfGroceries

Well-Known Member
Harassment by who?!? The “tolerant left” ;). How bout this idea. Harass a CM get banned for life!!! Just a thought. Do you hear what you and others are saying right now?!? But yes its the supporters of the man who just won the presidency yet again who are the problem.
The people who boo the Trump animatronic. The people who boo the Biden animatronic. You expose yourself by assuming. It doesn’t matter. People are divided, people will remain divided. You can continue to goad and get Mom’s wrath, or you can rest.
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
The people who boo the Trump animatronic. The people who boo the Biden animatronic. You expose yourself by assuming. It doesn’t matter. People are divided, people will remain divided. You can continue to goad and get Mom’s wrath, or you can rest.
Im sorry saying anyone who harasses a CM & should be banned for life is goading someone?!? Wow. Thats an interesting take
 

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