Hall of Presidents animatronic discussion

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Apparently it shows here an old animatronic head for President Donald trump is at a disney archives "disney 100" exhibit.
Well, what happens to the body mech, skin, hair/wig, suit for the older presidents? For the next version or eight years or so, the old wigs, suits and skin are kept for the limited motion animatronics but what happens to them after that? Are they kept in storage or given to disney imagineers? I know the skins are either placed in the disney archives or given to the imagineers. Well, what happens to the old suits? (obama and Clinton had actual suits lent by them) Was Trump's body kept for the one with the limited motion head or was the body shared with president biden (like the Clinton and George W Bush having the same animatronic body).
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Also shown here is an old franklin pierce suit from likely the Clinton to Obama versions, and the floral arrangement and (supposedly) Obama's shoes from the 2009 Obama version was added to the hall of presidents lobby in 2017.

Clinton and George W Bush shared the same body mechanism I know but did they also share the same head (albeit reprogrammed?)
Also, what happens to the old articulated president heads and animatronic bodies of presidents George W. Bush (recycled from Clinton), and Donald J. Trump after being swapped with limited-motion ones at the end of their term?

What also happened to the blue curtains, the huge model of the US Capitol dome and the tall white columns from the 1971-2017 versions of the attraction? The columns aren't there anymore, are they backstage or in the disney archives? Also, a screen was added in 2017, it might have covered up the old curtains and US capitol dome model but it's still unconfirmed.

Also due to looking at the programming, movements, and timing, the Biden animatronic body was recycled from Obama (has the same exact movements!). This makes Biden the second president to be recycled from a previous president after George W. bush.
 

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Clinton and Trump were the only new full president animatronics created for the attraction.
George W bush was recycled from clinton. This figure was moved to the back in 2009 and became obama upon he left office in 2017 updated with obama's suit and cosmetics.
Biden was recycled from obama, apparently. Has the same exact programming for the roll call part and the same size, proves this is the obama body with a new biden head attached.
 
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vicariouscorpse said:
They are reused molds, not the same mechanics. Andrew Jackson is the guy on the printing press. Dwight D. Eisenhower is the one on the mandolin.
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Yeah, the original andrew jackson animatronic is still used, with the original cosmetics and movements still, but eisenhower looks different from how he looked on the premiere version of the Hall of Presidents (1971-1974), the skin looks more realistic and never had a gray suit at the beginning.
What also happens to the old animatronic skins or suits after they get changed?
Also, the biden animatronic is the exact same body mechanism used for obama's from 2009-2017 (trump had a brand new body and now has a new head and now doesnt speak but isnt limited motion) and the current obama in the background is a limited motion figure, like clinton and bush
 
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ChrisFL said:
Sort of a side note, some of the old presidents heads ended up in Spaceship Earth animatronics. You can catch Andrew Jackson (I believe) playing an instrument in the renaissance area
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You can see the list of what presidents are who they are in SSE...Here..
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American Presidents In EPCOT's Spaceship Earth - MrCheezyPop

Dwight D. Eisenhower as a mandolin player? That’s right! A recycled Eisenhower animatronic is just one of nine former Hall of Presidents animatronics that were repurposed as animatronics in Spaceship Earth. Repurposing animatronics is one way that Disney has saved money over the course of its...
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TrainsOfDisney

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Goofyernmost said:
I do, however, wish that they go back to the original setup and not have any current President do the main speech.
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That’s how it’s done now, Lincoln gives his speech before the Presidents are revealed and then after the introductions George Washington gives a short speech which ends with Biden speaking the “so help me God” innauguration.

I personally liked the speeches of the current president (and that goes for all of them - the attraction is about the office of the president and should be enjoyed always no matter who is president!) but I feel like the current version solves a few issues.
 
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TrainsOfDisney said:
That’s how it’s done now, Lincoln gives his speech before the Presidents are revealed and then after the introductions George Washington gives a short speech which ends with Biden speaking the “so help me God” innauguration.

I personally liked the speeches of the current president (and that goes for all of them - the attraction is about the office of the president and should be enjoyed always no matter who is president!) but I feel like the current version solves a few issues.
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Originally, there was only Lincoln speaking. The individual presidents didn't speak until I think around the Clinton Presidency. My feeling is that it is the Hall of Presidents, not the Hall of THE President. When it was only Lincoln it took away completely any degree of partisan politics and just was historic. The current Presidents were in the roll call, but did not have a speaking part until Clinton. It really wasn't a problem until the last decade, but things are different now.
 
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Vegas Disney Fan

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TrainsOfDisney said:
I personally liked the speeches of the current president (and that goes for all of them - the attraction is about the office of the president and should be enjoyed always no matter who is president!) but I feel like the current version solves a few issues.
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“Should” being the key word, but unfortunately too many childish people can’t. I don’t think I’ve ever experienced the Hall without someone heckling, booing, and/or cheering.

When we last saw it in Jan someone yelled Let’s go Brandon, others started yelling insults back, most of the crowd started booing, I honestly thought it was going to result in a fight. Needless to say it ruined the show, I enjoy the speeches but in such divided times it’s probably better to just have a couple founding fathers speak and avoid the anomosity.
 
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Goofyernmost said:
Originally, there was only Lincoln and Washington speaking. The individual presidents didn't speak until I think around the Clinton Presidency. My feeling is that it is the Hall of Presidents, not the Hall of THE President. When it was only Lincoln it took away completely any degree of partisan politics and just was historic. The current Presidents were in the roll call, but did not have a speaking part until Clinton. It really wasn't a problem until the last decade, but things are different now.
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Yes, Clinton-Trump gave speeches. Biden does not, he only gives the “so help me God” inauguration after Washington speaks. That’s what I’m saying, there is no longer a “speech” just like you requested.

Vegas Disney Fan said:
I don’t think I’ve ever experienced the Hall without someone heckling, booing, and/or cheering.
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I’ve been lucky - I try to pick times when it’s less crowded to attend. During Trumps office it got so bad they would station Security officers visible in the attraction, they probably should continue to do that.

Regardless of your political views, if you can’t respect the dignity of that attraction then you should be escorted out of the park.
 
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TrainsOfDisney said:
Yes, Clinton-Trump gave speeches. Biden does not, he only gives the “so help me God” inauguration after Washington speaks. That’s what I’m saying, there is no longer a “speech” just like you requested.



I’ve been lucky - I try to pick times when it’s less crowded to attend. During Trumps office it got so bad they would station Security officers visible in the attraction, they probably should continue to do that.

Regardless of your political views, if you can’t respect the dignity of that attraction then you should be escorted out of the park.
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Seriously? If they isolated his voice and spoke through an animatronic he gave a speech like everyone else did, just not a new one. That serves to make it political instead of educational and historical. No one, in my opinion that is currently president should be given that spotlight that soon. Maybe years down the road when history shows that they have earned that degree of respect, a character other than Lincoln might be decided to be a spokesman for the group, but not immediately.
 
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Horizonsfan

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
“Should” being the key word, but unfortunately too many childish people can’t. I don’t think I’ve ever experienced the Hall without someone heckling, booing, and/or cheering.

When we last saw it in Jan someone yelled Let’s go Brandon, others started yelling insults back, most of the crowd started booing, I honestly thought it was going to result in a fight. Needless to say it ruined the show, I enjoy the speeches but in such divided times it’s probably better to just have a couple founding fathers speak and avoid the anomosity.
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We’ve had this issue the last few times in HOP as well. The most recent presidents’ roll call becomes mixture of boos & cheers. A truly strange experience and embarrassing for all the supposed adults involved. You’re cheering/booing robots…
 
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Horizonsfan said:
We’ve had this issue the last few times in HOP as well. The most recent presidents’ roll call becomes mixture of boos & cheers. A truly strange experience and embarrassing for all the supposed adults involved. You’re cheering/booing robots…
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I've heard the boos are loudest when they announce Millard Fillmore.
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In all seriousness, this is crazy to hear. I don't think I've been to see it since 2013, so I have not experienced it like that. How sad.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

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TrainsOfDisney said:
Where is the cut off? I’ve got a guess.
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My first though was FDR, but I’m not even sure he’d escape the heckling, then I thought maybe Teddy Roosevelt, he’s pretty universally liked, I’d probably just stick to Washington and Lincoln to be on the safe side though.

Even they aren’t above controversy anymore, but I don’t think it would result in disruptions of the show.
 
Goofyernmost

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TrainsOfDisney said:
Yes seriously. If you don’t want to hear the current President even speak “so help me God” then the Hall of Presidents is not the show for you!
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I guess I am not a good communicator because you are missing my point completely. That's probably why I was never President myself. Anyway, there is no reason to continue this discussion and we should just acknowledge that you like it being there and I think it is a mistake at this point in our troubled history to have it not be like it was originally intended to be shown with equal emphasis on all.
 
prberk

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Goofyernmost said:
Originally, there was only Lincoln and Washington speaking. The individual presidents didn't speak until I think around the Clinton Presidency. My feeling is that it is the Hall of Presidents, not the Hall of THE President. When it was only Lincoln it took away completely any degree of partisan politics and just was historic. The current Presidents were in the roll call, but did not have a speaking part until Clinton. It really wasn't a problem until the last decade, but things are different now.
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Actually, originally only Lincoln spoke.
 
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