Hagrid's Motorbike Adventure is open

Rich Brownn

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At least at some points they were. Universal has been running this attraction at 1/2 capacity maximum ever since it opened. These also aren’t theaters, they’re coaster trains.
Disney had its own failures on opening. All of Epcot. (Heck UofE didn't run properly for months). The Yeti (still not fixed due to poor design). Test Track (which also didn't open at full capacity). FoP which still has problems. Space Mountain opening with poorly designed tracks that needed to be replaced.
 

flynnibus

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No matter how many rehearsals you do you will never be totally prepared for running at full speed every hour the park is open. That applies to just about anything. I'm sure any problems are being worked out as they come up. That will all take time just like the other Potter rides and yes Pandora did have big problems when it opened with things like their motors in the attraction were over heating and they would have to be shut down to cool. That cut down on capacity for sure with the theaters not running at full capacity.

FWIW.. when I was listening to TMs on Monday before opening... several were talking about how they (themselves) had been cycling trains, but not yet with people on the trains. I think they needed more cycles before really opening.

But the fact people are waiting 6+hrs to ride a SINGLE attraction shows either
a) people are getting more and more insane
b) people need more of a life
c) universal is being too soft on what it means to be in line and thus increasing the tolerance for waiting

There should be no reason to be such a large population to wait that long in the queue.

Based on the gear and stuff seen even on Friday, UNI knew they had to be in a preventative mood at opening. Closures due to rain, or just trips/failures on the new ride system should be expected. But continuous waits this long are just not healthy for anyone. The virtual queue isn't going to make it any better... nor is a delayed opening that will mean people will just queue up earlier... adding to their waits.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I'm just feeling more and more lucky that I got to ride the attraction twice for less than 2hr investment :)

I'm suprised more people aren't talking about the effect in the ceiling in the final queue area. It's pretty neat how the effect is achieved. It looks like shadows and lights on the ceiling... even if it were done via projection from the backside. But it's not. It's actually rows and rows of LEDs that illuminate into the slatted areas are all synchronized to change color and turn off in patterns that make it look light and shadow. It's very cool how it's there, but not detailed at the same time.

I will say tho, that the audio in the queue is hopelessly drowned out by the crowd noise. You hear them talking, but can't make any of it out.
 

flynnibus

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man.. open some of the twitter profiles of the disney fanbois that replied to that UNI tweat? My god is it scary. Like... fear for my safety how disturbed some of these people are.
 

General Mayhem

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I'm just feeling more and more lucky that I got to ride the attraction twice for less than 2hr investment :)

I'm suprised more people aren't talking about the effect in the ceiling in the final queue area. It's pretty neat how the effect is achieved. It looks like shadows and lights on the ceiling... even if it were done via projection from the backside. But it's not. It's actually rows and rows of LEDs that illuminate into the slatted areas are all synchronized to change color and turn off in patterns that make it look light and shadow. It's very cool how it's there, but not detailed at the same time.

I will say tho, that the audio in the queue is hopelessly drowned out by the crowd noise. You hear them talking, but can't make any of it out.
When the wait times lower I think this will not be a problem anymore (at least not as much). The problem currently is by the time people reach those areas of the queue they have been in line for 3-5 hours and their patience is extremely thin. No one is interested in what is being said at that point they just want to get on the ride before they go insane lol.
 

flynnibus

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When the wait times lower I think this will not be a problem anymore (at least not as much). The problem currently is by the time people reach those areas of the queue they have been in line for 3-5 hours and their patience is extremely thin. No one is interested in what is being said at that point they just want to get on the ride before they go insane lol.

No, they will have to make adjustments if they actually want people to hear it. It's just the normal churn of people talking amongst themselves when you put a couple hundred people together in an enclosed space it gets loud. No one is going to sit like church mice in a long set of switchbacks.

If I recall the max occupancy sign said something like 417 people.. (or like 280.. forget which) it's on the wall right near the child swap room along the wall the child swap people walk towards the loading area.

They will have to improve the audio locations to make it more understandable... or radically change the mix so the voice track is more clear.
 

General Mayhem

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No, they will have to make adjustments if they actually want people to hear it. It's just the normal churn of people talking amongst themselves when you put a couple hundred people together in an enclosed space it gets loud. No one is going to sit like church mice in a long set of switchbacks.

If I recall the max occupancy sign said something like 417 people.. (or like 280.. forget which) it's on the wall right near the child swap room along the wall the child swap people walk towards the loading area.

They will have to improve the audio locations to make it more understandable... or radically change the mix so the voice track is more clear.
To be fair I was able to understand what they were saying in each room on both of my visits.
 

Tom Morrow

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Those Twitter replies are something else.

I couldn't understand what they were saying in any of the rooms either, but everyone around me was being very loud. I don't think that will be the norm once the lines are shorter.
 

RustySpork

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I’m sorry that I have high expectations for theme parks. I can’t help it if your standards aren’t as high. Maybe that’s why you’re a Uni apologist.

I'm not a Uni apologist; there's evidence of that in this very thread, but if it makes you feel better about yourself to think that I am one. Knock yourself out. :joyfull:
 

ToTBellHop

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I continue to be surprised that the parks obsess over summer openings (all FL parks are guilty of this). Why open rides when you are guaranteed to have tons of hot, sweaty, irritable guests and frequent storms? It’s not as though the parks get significantly more guests in the summer than the rest of the year like Six Flags (the opposite, actually). The shorter hours, lower crowds, and better weather in January would be a better time to open a new ride.
 

flynnibus

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I continue to be surprised that the parks obsess over summer openings (all FL parks are guilty of this). Why open rides when you are guaranteed to have tons of hot, sweaty, irritable guests and frequent storms? It’s not as though the parks get significantly more guests in the summer than the rest of the year like Six Flags (the opposite, actually). The shorter hours, lower crowds, and better weather in January would be a better time to open a new ride.

because marketing and revenue >> 'optimal smoothness'
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
But why? They charge more to get into the parks and resorts during other times of year. Summer is increasingly quiet in the FL parks. August has the lowest crowds of every month that I've been to FL.

When you spend hundreds of millions of dollars... for the sole purpose of attracting guests to your place... well, that's what they want to do as soon as possible :)
 

ToTBellHop

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When you spend hundreds of millions of dollars... for the sole purpose of attracting guests to your place... well, that's what they want to do as soon as possible :)
They choose when to open rides and begin construction on a timetable to meet that goal. It is stupid to go with summer as the opening window in Central Florida.
 

RustySpork

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They choose when to open rides and begin construction on a timetable to meet that goal. It is stupid to go with summer as the opening window in Central Florida.

Peak season starts Memorial day weekend which is when we start to have the largest crowds because schools are out and so many families will be on vacation here. It will start to slow down some in August and really taper off mid-late October. March/April would be a good alternative, but that would have pushed the attraction opening off to 2020.
 

ToTBellHop

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Peak season starts Memorial day weekend which is when we start to have the largest crowds because schools are out and so many families will be on vacation here. It will start to slow down some in August and really taper off mid-late October. March/April would be a good alternative, but that would have pushed the attraction opening off to 2020.
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RustySpork

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That is no longer the case. July has been quite quiet in the parks the last few years. via Touringplans:
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DateResort
Crowd Level
(Out of 10)
Magic
Kingdom
EpcotHollywood
Studios
Animal
Kingdom
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Ticket
What To Look Out For
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8a/9a-6p
4
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9a-9p
1
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9a-9p
3
_
9a-9p
$117 Gay Days Orlando at HS
Halloween Party at MK
Aug. 17, 2019
Saturday
4
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3
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9a-9p
5
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9a-9p
2
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9a-9p
6
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8a/9a-9p
$125 H2O Glow Nights
Gay Days Orlando at MK

That doesn't jive with Undercover Tourist calendar at all which was accurate for the days I've visited over the last month.

 

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