Guests who Destroy the Magic

[WildLodgeFan]

Whoa now. My opnion. theres no need for slamming me for it, or all teenagers for that matter. Its not pruley to angatonize someone, I think you missed my point. No body sits there and says "hey, im bored so i think ill bug the heck out of the people in from me." We are having fun. If you happen to be annoyed by it, then thats your problem, not ours. It only makes it more fun when you try to yell at us, it makes us think that you dont want us to have fun, which is rediculious. I never said we do it to purposly make someone mad.

And personally to you, you have to give repect to get it. You have no right to say that I am not respectfull, you do not personally know me. If I saw a kid doing this, I would laugh, becuase i know they mean no harm by it. But if it was getting to the point that someone was getting hurt, or bullied, I would step in. Its grumpy people like you, who need to learn that kids are not going to repect you, if you dont repect them.

I have left this site once becuase of people being mean or disrespectfull towards others for thier views, looks like its happening again. But, thats my opnion.

I would agree, no one should slam you about an opinion. And hopefully you will not slam me for mine.

I beg to differ there are kids that do things just to bug people - yes, they think it's fun, but that's their perspective. To avoid the confrontational point, I think the poster wasn't objecting to the screaming so much, cause hey many of us do it on a roller coaster (and I'm almost 40!), but that they were leaning forward deliberately to do it in her ear and continued to do it when asked not. There is a marked difference there. There is nothing wrong with having fun, but everyone should be considerate in their merry making.

It's really not about being grumpy, it's about having a different perspective on life. I remember your feelings quite well at your age but I can almost guarantee you as you continue to experience the world and grow older, you will have a different perspective at 34 than you did at 17. (And when you say you never will be that way, watch out, you will! HA!)

 

[daliseurat]

Not really destructive but it did get me worked up a little bit for a while

One time I was trying to get the Monorail cockpit seats for the monorail from Epcot to MK, I asked the CM about getting seats and he was like "sure we'll see about that" but there was this other family who I guess had been hoping to get in front but hadnt actually asked the guy manning the station.

The monorail came in and the mom was all "Uh-uh, we were here first so we're going in front" in a pretty condesending tone. In all honestly I was quite happy to let her have the seat if it really bugged her that much but the CM politely said that I had actually asked first and they hadnt so me and my family would be the ones to ride. She complained that this was "unfair" and so on to the CM. On one hand I understand the fustration, as they were there waiting before us. But she was quite rude about the whole thing.

Even more amusing my dad and his best buddy elected to ride in the cabin behind (too many people to all fit the cockpit) and she was in that cabin too, whining on the whole trip about how unfair and terrible it was that this guest had charged in ahead of her. Admittedly I felt a bit guilty and it ruined the ride a little for me.

Apparently also she gave me a hard look as she stepped down the platform as well :lol:

I've had this happen to ME! A family tried to pull this on me and my cousin, with two kids. I decided to take the high road, and let them go ahead of me and my cousin. I could wait. Their kids were small, and I figured the parent wouldn't wait. And then, just like you, the castmember pointed out that we had asked. Just as I was about to open my mouth to say that they could take the front and we'd wait, the Mom starts this rude tirade at the castmember and myself. So, I shut my mouth. The castmember took us to the front, and I whispered to him, that if the kids wanted to ride up with us they were more than welcome. They rudely declined. Had the mom just kept her mouth shut, she'd have gotten what she wanted. I felt no guilt.

 

[wvdisneyfamily]

speaking as a respectful 17 year old, I think its kinda unfair when Adults get grumpy over this sort of thing. Most of us dont do it to ________ you off, were just having fun, the best way we know how. Its really not worth complaning about, because it really isnt going to change anything. You were a kid once too.:shrug:

Speaking as a respectful 25-year-old (8 years past 17), I love thrill rides and coasters that make you scream. I don't think you read my original post very carefully. They leaned forward and screamed in MY EARS. They were 100% doing that on purpose. Their fun came at the expense of being rude to me. That is not okay; it is not just good clean fun. I am not just some grumpy adult complaining about kids having a good time. I teach high school so I am very tolerant and accepting of kids having fun. However, I am not tolerant of rude people at any age. You are right. I was a kid once. My parents would have beat the living daylights out of me for a trick like that. Being a kid is not an excuse for rudeness.

 

[daliseurat]

So my rant is about grumpy people at the world. who feel the need to ruin the time for everyone else (what the thread ia about, right?)

On our second to last night during our trip in Nov. '07, It was the night where they wer testing the winter lights on the castel, and running through the show. My family, having really never gotten to watch the fireworks, staked out a spot a couple hours early on the train station platform, running shifts who would sit there.
Well, It was about 1 1/2 hours till the show, and my mom called me and my bf back to sit for a while. So, we got some food and went to sit. Mind you, there were 6 of us (not a lot) but we had a few chairs. A few minutes later, this (rather large) women in one of those scooters rolls up, completly pushing all of our stuff out of the way, knocking chairs over and all. It stook strength to keep bf sitting, as he was infuriated. We tried to nicely ask her to move, and help us pick the stuff up, but she insisted she was disabled, and we didnt desevre these seats anyway. Bf and I are very agravated, so we just sit there and make rude comments at her for a while. (not completly nessicary, but...) My mom came back a few mintues later and flipped out on the women. After bickering for a few minutes, the women calls us ungrateful brats, and gets up (out of her scooter) and walks away. :dazzle: leaving the scooter behind.

Just becuase she was having a miserable time and couldnt ride anything becuase she was "disabled" , didnt mean she had to take it out on us.

:brick:

Now, this time, I'm with you. No one has the right to knock all your stuff around. I'm sure if she had just asked for a little space you would have done what you could.

Be careful not to jump to the same conclusions that you don't like being made about you because of your AGE. Her being disabled doesn't mean she was having a bad time or couldn't ride anything. She was being obnoxious and rude to you probably because she thought she could get away with it because you were teenagers. ( Again, the BAD teens make it tougher on the GOOD teens) Which is no excuse. I'm sure she'd be rude and obnoxious if she was the healthiest person alive. At least you didn't have to watch the fireworks with her next to you.

 

[Eyorefan]

I think Whoopie Goldberg said it best in a monologue I saw her perform about a year ago. She said something to the effect of...

"When we raised our kids we were hippies who didn't want to force them to listen to authority so we raised brats. Now our brats are raising monsters and its all our fault."

 

[Dragonrider1227]

Some people are just obnoxious and and just don't care. You know the well in front of Show White's ride? I found trash in it once :brick:My sister says she saw trash at Minnie's house too. I mean, come on. Who trashes Minnie's house? I wanted to see Minnie shoo everyone out so she could clean up

 

[wdwmomof3]

Some people are just obnoxious and and just don't care. You know the well in front of Show White's ride? I found trash in it once :brick:My sister says she saw trash at Minnie's house too. I mean, come on. Who trashes Minnie's house? I wanted to see Minnie shoo everyone out so she could clean up

We found trash in Minnies house. Well, it was a park map and some paper but it still didn't belong in there.:lol:

 

[camithepirate]

Now, this time, I'm with you. No one has the right to knock all your stuff around. I'm sure if she had just asked for a little space you would have done what you could.

Be careful not to jump to the same conclusions that you don't like being made about you because of your AGE. Her being disabled doesn't mean she was having a bad time or couldn't ride anything. She was being obnoxious and rude to you probably because she thought she could get away with it because you were teenagers. ( Again, the BAD teens make it tougher on the GOOD teens) Which is no excuse. I'm sure she'd be rude and obnoxious if she was the healthiest person alive. At least you didn't have to watch the fireworks with her next to you.

I agree. there could have been several reasons she was upset, its not fair just to assume that. I try to not think about my age affecting who I am, which is why it bothers me so much some time when people get mad, but, like you said the bad ones make it harder than the good ones.
And, I appologise for my actions on the other thread. It might have been a little out of line, but I firmly beleive that someone shouldnt judge someone becuase of they're age, or get mad at them for thier actions. However, if they're doing something like trashing the world, or flat out being disrepectfull for no reason, then its okay to get mad. 0.o

 

[wvdisneyfamily]

I agree. there could have been several reasons she was upset, its not fair just to assume that. I try to not think about my age affecting who I am, which is why it bothers me so much some time when people get mad, but, like you said the bad ones make it harder than the good ones.
And, I appologise for my actions on the other thread. It might have been a little out of line,
but I firmly beleive that someone shouldnt judge someone becuase of they're age,
I don't judge people because of their age. 95% of the time I get judged because of what people believe my age to be. Apparently I look more like a 17-year-old than a 25-year-old. I get carded at R-rated movies.
The kids I posted about were simply unsupervised teenagers with very bad manners. If I judged people because of their age, believe me I would not be a teacher. I love kids - especially teenagers. I chose to teach high schoolers; I wasn't forced to take that position in order to get a job. I'd say 95% of teenagers are very good kids with a lot of passion. Every once in a while you run into some people (young or old - as you yourself saw) that choose to act very rudely.
or get mad at them for thier actions.
I disliked their actions and got mad at their actions. I am a Christian. I try to love all people because in the end that's what matters. Each day you have the ability to make someone's life good or bad based solely on the way you choose to treat them. As Spiderman's uncle says - with great power comes great responsibility. Our actions are a big responsibility.
However, if they're doing something like trashing the world, or flat out being disrepectfull for no reason, then its okay to get mad.
I felt like they were being disrespectful for no reason. We had even chatted in the line before boarding the train. They commented on my neat mouse ears. I said "thank you". They were nice then. However, from the time we left the boarding area until the end of the ride, they leaned forward and screamed in my ears. I know they were leaning forward because I turned around to see if they were okay. As much as they were screaming, I thought something must be wrong. When my husband yelled back for them (not yelled at them but yelled so they could hear) to quit, they screamed even louder. It may have been a prank to them, but you can damage someone's ears doing that.
0.o

Don't always feel you have to be defensive over your age. Not all of us "adults" are out to get you. Kids are a blessing; they help the world examine life through new eyes. Anyone that judges you because you are "only" 17 needs to reconsider their attitude. It may have come out wrong when I said "unsupervised teenagers", but I meant no harm by that. I also saw unsupervised "adults" spitting off of the TTA trying to land giant wads of spit onto strollers. :hurl:

 

[figmentisgreat]

I have to say that as an 18 year old that started college at 15, there are a lot of times that people think that I am up to no good or extremely immature due to my age, especially in a college setting. I have come to understand that it will continue to happen (especially since I look a lot younger than 18 sometimes) and that I am actually OK with it. When I prove that I really am mature, well spoken, and well behaved it redeems teenagers in their eyes. I take the same approach to Disney as well. I do have to say though that I think it is unfortunate for teenagers like myself to have to defend themselves against accusations because of age. However, and this is the point that I have been trying to get at this whole post, it is the fault of the misbehaving teenagers out there that people have preconceived notions, not the people that hold these opinions. Unfortunately, many of these preconceptions are true and people are perfectly justified in having them.

38 days until I am behaving myself properly at the World!!!!:lol:

 

[swimmom]

I have come to notice that it does not come down to a persons age. It all comes down to the person themselves and if they understand the magic. I know that when I am at WDW that I want to enjoy every moment I can and also let everyone else enjoy it as well. But there is always that family, that person, that teenager or that kid that just doesn't understand the preservation of the magic. Walt's intention was to create a place where people of all ages could enjoy themselves while in the company of others seeking the same thing. I think that most people have lost sight of that fact or just don't know about that fact at all.

 

[daliseurat]

I agree. there could have been several reasons she was upset, its not fair just to assume that. I try to not think about my age affecting who I am, which is why it bothers me so much some time when people get mad, but, like you said the bad ones make it harder than the good ones.
And, I appologise for my actions on the other thread. It might have been a little out of line, but I firmly beleive that someone shouldnt judge someone becuase of they're age, or get mad at them for thier actions. However, if they're doing something like trashing the world, or flat out being disrepectfull for no reason, then its okay to get mad. 0.o

I knew you were one of the good ones.

I would say that the bad behavior I see is made far more often by ADULTS. But, us adults have a habit of assuming the worst of teenagers. Why is that? Well, because we were teenagers and we know what you're likely to be up to. But, it doesn't make it right.

I remember being followed by the police wherever I drove, being spoken to like I was guilty of something I wasn't and so on. It was the same then. The bad ones made it rougher on those of us who weren't up to anything.

Most of you are pretty great. I had the pleasure of watching my neighbors son grow up. It was tremendously helpful to me as a parent now. One thing I have observed that was true when I was a teen and is true today is this:

Teens are no where near as smart and mature as they think they are, but they are much, much smarter and more mature than adults will ever give them credit for.

And us adults hate it when you are right and we are wrong.

And it goes both ways. Teens judge adults as well.

But, when it comes to DISNEY, I don't judge anybody by anything but their actions. And when those actions are aimed at me, I'm going to get angry. Just like you did with the obnoxious woman who knocked over all your stuff.

So while I agree with you that you shouldn't be judged by your age, I will have to say that you and I both will be judged by our actions. And that's how it should be. There's nothing wrong with having a good time and screaming on rollercoasters or just acting silly. But no one should allow their actions to harm another persons fun.

 

[Iknewagirlnamed]

Speaking as a respectful 25-year-old (8 years past 17), I love thrill rides and coasters that make you scream. I don't think you read my original post very carefully. They leaned forward and screamed in MY EARS. They were 100% doing that on purpose. Their fun came at the expense of being rude to me. That is not okay; it is not just good clean fun. I am not just some grumpy adult complaining about kids having a good time. I teach high school so I am very tolerant and accepting of kids having fun. However, I am not tolerant of rude people at any age. You are right. I was a kid once. My parents would have beat the living daylights out of me for a trick like that. Being a kid is not an excuse for rudeness.

I knew of this guy that was riding a roller coaster with two extremely annoying teenage girls behind him that were screaming their heads off just because they could. After the ride was over, he turned to them and told them they were poster children for abortion.

 

[JennyTablina]

I'm 19 and I like to think in my times at disney since I was 10 that I've behaved pretty well in the world, bar times where I might of been a little moody with family

The only bad thing I can ever recall was when on the TTA, we had some other family friends with us and the dad and kids of the other lot started chanting "we want buzz" as we passed the Buzz bit. We all joined in till some people behind us told us to shut up. Admittedly it was unconsiderate but its not something I normally do. Normally if the family wants to be silly on a ride we keep it to just doing something silly waving hands to the song (small world and on our own boat) or we have an amusing banter between ourselves (and not disturbing other riders)

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

I knew of this guy that was riding a roller coaster with two extremely annoying teenage girls behind him that were screaming their heads off just because they could. After the ride was over, he turned to them and told them they were poster children for abortion.

Wow! Should I feel guilty for bursting out laughing at that remark? I know its kind of a cruel thing to say, but at the same time...I can't help but do this: :ROFLOL:.

 

[JDM]

I'm sure she'd be rude and obnoxious if she was the healthiest person alive.

Well, she certainly wasn't the most disabled person alive if she just stood up and stormed off.

Reason #3 why use of these scooters should be limited!

With any luck, she's still angry about your encounter....
Good for you (person who encountered her) for standing your ground!

 

[Grim Grinner]

In regards to rude/obnoxious people, my wife and I had a specific curse that makes it difficult to convince her to ride Tower of Terror. Every time we go on, we have these girls screaming at the top of their lungs- even when the ride hasn't begun.

I can appreciate the need to scream and shout, but you shouldn't be screaming while they're unloading the ride. They yell so loud that my ears ring for hours and give me one heck of a headache.

The wife doesn't even want to ride anymore (or even visit DHS even.)

Another incident has struck us twice at Typhoon Lagoon. We put our towels, flipflops and glasses down on a single chair having gotten to the park early. We'd come back and everything was tossed to the ground, including my glasses that I'm near blind without. If something would have happened to them, I would have had my trip ruined.

The wife caused a scene with the offenders who shrugged it all off by saying there were there first?!? Keep in mind that we had gotten there first thing in the morning when it opened. Ahhhhh!!!

Now I wear my glasses no matter what. To reduce the risk in any case.

BTW- It's worth noting that I've given up the front monorail car willingly to a family with kids who wanted to see it. Someone did that for me a long time ago and I figure that I have to repay the favor.

 

[Chape19714]

I knew of this guy that was riding a roller coaster with two extremely annoying teenage girls behind him that were screaming their heads off just because they could. After the ride was over, he turned to them and told them they were poster children for abortion.

That would be completely uncalled for by the man. Unless there is something more to the story, nothing is wrong, besides that final remark.

On a Roller Coaster, people scream, including teens. Most of the time people don't scream because they're scared, it because they can and want to have fun. Just look at the bright side, when you guys go through a ride, you only ride once, as a CM who gets an occasional shift at thrill rides, you hear it all day. At the end of the day, it's all about knowing people had fun. At a Thrill Ride, the best judge of that is the screaming.

I can appreciate the need to scream and shout, but you shouldn't be screaming while they're unloading the ride. They yell so loud that my ears ring for hours and give me one heck of a headache.

Try standing at Unload for hours, it really isn't that big of a deal. But like I said before I'm glad they're having fun. Disney needs that demographic of guests, because if it were just families that visited, those rides such as ToT and RnRC wouldn't exist to enjoy in the 1st place. It's just the nature of the beast.

I'm not defending rude behavior by any means, I just feel it needs to be said that people like to have fun reguardless of age, but Teens seem to express fun times on rides with screams!

Just my $0.02 Flame Away

 

[Grim Grinner]

My concern is when the person is about a foot or two from my ears and screaming.

 

[WaltsApprentice]

Ask her if she was having a "Magical Day?":shrug:

...Maybe ask her is...she had her fiber today?? haha...If I saw that...I don't know what I would have done...Maybe run...or ask her if she fell...:shrug:um with her pants down...um...akward...i think I'll stick with running