Guest banned from WDW for meth lab joke.

[Monorail_Red_77]

Joke or not, in the post-9/11 era we live in, along with the fragile society we have, just about anything and everything can be suspect, depending on the way you say it. A lot of people get offended very easily at stupid things, a lot of people also take things very seriously. This CM on the other end of the phone felt there was a need to escalate the comments said.

I get that this guy was upset that it was taking forever to get something done. I get that he was also beating the disability card to death in his rant as well. This guy mentioned in his youtube video that he's an annual passholder and that he and his family go numerous times each year. So... to me, this means that he knows what the service is going to be like. He has dealt with it before, meaning, they have dealt with him before. I'm sure Disney has everything lined up on their end. If they can track everything about you through your magic band, keeping comments from guests in rooms on certain dates doesn't seem that hard.

As for his ban, the guy who snuck around and got caught, he just came off of his ban, years later. This particular individual, esp if he does have a past with Disney on Disney's records, may not be so lucky.

Don't forget to add people that are sue-happy or have entitlement disorder. LOL

 

[mkt]

You know you would most likely be 'terminated' for misusing a database like that? unless you mean you googled him.

"terminated"... from what? This is Florida - court records are public and easily accesible.

 

[1023]

Recent arrest near here for a meth lab in the trunk of a car. Those Pop Century rooms must be smaller than I thought. Police call it a shake and bake method and it produces a lethal concoction. No laughing matter.

Actually, pop bottle meth or shake and bake can be done in a backpack. To get a product of good quality and not your customer's last purchase, you really need to set up an 8 stage process lab at minimum. That's about 150 sq. ft. of space.

*1023*

 

[1023]

I love how he had to name drop Jesus in his statement.

Jesus he knows me, and he knows I'm right. I been talking to Jesus, all my life......

*1023*

 

[GrammieBee]

It is simply not logical and extremely unlikely that police would be called, anyone would be "asked" to leave their hotel ,Walt Disney World in general and would receive a lifetime ban fron the park just for uttering a stupid, probably nasty, and entirely inappropriate joke even if the CM was inclined to overreact to what they heard. It is not credible that In this day and age of sue happy lawyers, management would be quite that stupid. Since nothing was found in the hotel room, there had to have been other extenuating circumstances. Park guests have done worse than that and have received very little in the way of "punishment".
Mr. Swindler is going a little heavly on the" handicapped, Jesus and Disney loving me" routine. There is more to the story, which we will probably never know.

 

[SW_matt]

"terminated"... from what? This is Florida - court records are public and easily accesible.

Hardly a background check then, those will only show convictions, whose to say that he hasn't been arrested/cautioned before or elsewhere convicted other than Florida. There are numerous other things that could allude to his bad, or indeed good character. Whose to say there isn't a warning marker to suggest he's a drug dealer/producer?

I assumed that you had accessed some sort of database used in the course of your employment (as you have dropped in other threads that you are some sort of senior 'hirer') to view some sort of criminal records management system that is a little more detailed than an internet search.

 

[ABQ]

Portrait mode should be illegal in photos or videos. Hate it. Bring on the landscape people. Unless of course you are filming something really tall.

Poor Luke McCowan.

 

[JIMINYCR]

Boy... I'd better really watch what I say... I like to kid around, joke around with everyone and with the atmosphere around these days you cant say anything that can be mistaken, misunderstood, or misconstrued. I do use good judgement and keep it within boundaries but you never know how another persons going to reacts to even the most innocent comment. Guess on this trip I'll keep it zipped up tight. If I got handed a lifetime ban I'd never survive.

 

[POLY LOVER]

Maybe all we need to know to understand the issue is in his name? Mr. swindler

 

[mkt]

Hardly a background check then, those will only show convictions, whose to say that he hasn't been arrested/cautioned before or elsewhere convicted other than Florida. There are numerous other things that could allude to his bad, or indeed good character. Whose to say there isn't a warning marker to suggest he's a drug dealer/producer?

I assumed that you had accessed some sort of database used in the course of your employment (as you have dropped in other threads that you are some sort of senior 'hirer') to view some sort of criminal records management system that is a little more detailed than an internet search.

HR, and our third party companies, deal with the background checks. I just make the decision to proceed with a candidate after interviewing them. If they pass their background check - welcome; if not, wait for the other candidates.

And charged, but not convicted, is not a sign of guilt. I've been charged before (misdemeanor) - and was found innocent in court.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

HR, and our third party companies, deal with the background checks. I just make the decision to proceed with a candidate after interviewing them. If they pass their background check - welcome; if not, wait for the other candidates.

And charged, but not convicted, is not a sign of guilt. I've been charged before (misdemeanor) - and was found innocent in court.

How did your meth lab ultimately turn out?

 

[LuvtheGoof]

Y'all do know that anytime a person interacts on a call with a CM, that conversation is entered into their computer system, along with what the attitude of the caller was during the call. Pretty much every single time that you go to guest services, and they know your name, it is entered into the system. If you continually complain about everything under the sun, Disney knows that you are a complainer, and treats you accordingly. There is simply no way that this is the first instance of him being a rude person to a CM. Disney was probably just tired of him and his rants, and told him to go away and not come back. If that is the case, I would have done the same thing.

 

[mkt]

How did your meth lab ultimately turn out?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Y'all do know that anytime a person interacts on a call with a CM, that conversation is entered into their computer system, along with what the attitude of the caller was during the call. Pretty much every single time that you go to guest services, and they know your name, it is entered into the system. If you continually complain about everything under the sun, Disney knows that you are a complainer, and treats you accordingly. There is simply no way that this is the first instance of him being a rude person to a CM. Disney was probably just tired of him and his rants, and told him to go away and not come back. If that is the case, I would have done the same thing.

Well then they must have one heck of a file on all my sweetness! LOL.

Seriously, I end up having the best little convos with CMs when calling to book stuff. I hope they aren't rated on time of call, like I was when I worked at an AMEX call center for a little while. They have such nice people answering the phones.

 

[wdwjmp239]

I truly think there's more to this story or the story is just made up. Call me a cynic, but I'm not buying it. What grounds does Disney really have to ban this guy from the parks? Was it recorded that he said that? Does Disney even have proof? Sure, this guy is "admitting" he said something stupid, but if this story holds the truth, then I'm going to say that Disney needs to shake this one off and let it go. I'm sure there's more important things for Disney to be worrying about instead of banning a person for telling an off-color joke. Oh well..

 

[WhatJaneSays]

I just did a background check on the guy - nothing. He has nothing in his past.

I did a 15 minute Google investigation and found court records in Orange County and St. Johns County (where he lives) for minor traffic infractions and also careless driving. All of which are 100% irrelevant for any kind of personality trait.

 

[JourneysEnd]

I did a 15 minute Google investigation and found court records in Orange County and St. Johns County (where he lives) for minor traffic infractions and also careless driving. All of which are 100% irrelevant for any kind of personality trait.

Yes, but do they keep records on the number of times a person acted like an a**hole?

 

[Mickey5150]

He posted vertical video? Because of that, I'm reluctantly forced to side with Disney on this.

I know you don't want info on the new Stars Wars movie, but, I hear they filmed it in vertical video.

 

[Rescue Ranger]

Since he made a point out of saying his first love is supposedly Jesus and I doubt "Jesus" has been affected, I don't see why he cares. Seriously though, If he's that religious to mention it, he should take this as a sign....!

Has to be more to this than what is being said.

 

[SW_matt]

HR, and our third party companies, deal with the background checks. I just make the decision to proceed with a candidate after interviewing them. If they pass their background check - welcome; if not, wait for the other candidates.

And charged, but not convicted, is not a sign of guilt. I've been charged before (misdemeanor) - and was found innocent in court.

Ah I see, i put 2 and 2 together and achieved 5!

Of course innocent until proven etc however there may be intelligence to suggest this guy was involved in less then reputable activities (lets face it he probably isn't) which might not have been near a court as of yet which might have been behind the local polices decision to raid the room. Unfortunately we shall never know!