Guardians Tower announcement Saturday in SD ...

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At no point in time did the Monorail make a complete trip around Matterhorn. It passed it, sure, but it did not circle around it.

A few seconds later, you can see the Monorail does not really touch small world's mall. The old motorboat cruise, maybe. The cars driving down Harbor are closer to the Monorail.

Seriously?

You're arguing about "passing" vs "circling" ?
At what distance must it be from the 'mountain' to qualify as "circling" vs passing?

You won't read this, you've put me on ignore and have encouraged others to do so.
But as you can see, I don't ignore you. I have hope for you.

 

[NearTheEars]

It said...
Krakatau Josh - Say I have this tower, a terrifying tower, and galactic mercenaries are invading. How do I defend it?

Universal Orlando replies: Sell your stock, buy ours and send a message that those galactic mercenaries are ruining history.

Then the site that shall not be named replied to universal ... You are the company that erased JAWS, Back to the Future, King Kong and Hanna-Barberra, right?

Double Zing!

 

[Mike S]

yes he is, but I do have to say I was disappointed in the attraction. It was basically a carbon copy of Hollywood's tram version with the kong face at the end.

The 360 scene was always rumored to be part of it and I am happy to have something like it in Orlando but I am not excited for Fast & Furious based on what can be seen in Hollywood.

Anyway, back to the topic.

 

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Skip to 6:00.

At no point in time did the Monorail make a complete trip around Matterhorn. It passed it, sure, but it did not circle around it.

A few seconds later, you can see the Monorail does not really touch small world's mall. The old motorboat cruise, maybe. The cars driving down Harbor are closer to the Monorail.

Its kind of funny the video title is "grand circle tour" but the monorail never makes a complete on-axis 360 degree circle.
Should be titled "grand passing by tour"

/cough cough

 

[Californian Elitist]

The original point was that the monorail runs through the Matterhorn themed area which it certainly does.

I skipped this part of your post, somehow.

The user tried to make a point that the passing by ToT in the Red Car Trolley is the same as the Monorail passing SBC, Matterhorn, and small world. That was the point, not the simple fact the Monorail passes by Matterhorn.

Not the same thing.

 

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I skipped this part of your post, somehow.

The user tried to make a point that the passing by ToT in the Red Car Trolley is the same as the Monorail passing SBC, Matterhorn, and small world. That was the point, not the simple fact the Monorail passes by Matterhorn.

Not the same thing.

No I don't think so either. Vastly different scale for one thing.
But I don't hold the trolley sacrosanct as others do, nor do I think an old trolley must only exist in its original period within a theme park, or anywhere else.

A trolley centuries in the future will be an amazing attraction to people of that time

 

[flynnibus]

And the point that the point about the Trolly isn't as much as about theme clash.. where the monorail is this overall transportation system that crosses multiple lands and transcends what its going past.. where as the Trolly is about one thing... the theme of Hollywood and BVS. It's part of that land's setting and atmosphere. It will really clash with a modern set Marvel tower.. and worse if they were to take over more of Hollywoodland.

I keep feeling like they'd simply stop trying to make hollywoodland be about the past, and simply 'modern CA' and play from there.. since there is enough classic architechure in the area, its not like you'd have to make it into a modern NYC.

 

[peter11435]

I skipped this part of your post, somehow.

The user tried to make a point that the passing by ToT in the Red Car Trolley is the same as the Monorail passing SBC, Matterhorn, and small world. That was the point, not the simple fact the Monorail passes by Matterhorn.

Not the same thing.

And I believe that users point stands. Obviously not in the case of the castle. But certainly in the case of the Matterhorn. I don't see how you can say the Matterhorn and monorail are any less connected than tower and the trolley. In both cases we are talking about two different attractions with different themes existing within the same themed area.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Don't bother arguing with the Orange Bird, he's a pretty insufferable member here. He simply MUST always be right and everyone else simply MUST be an agenda pusher. For what its worth, I agree with you. The monorail doesn't not circle the Matterhorn. Anyone who truly believes that has a seriously loose screw.

I'm not familiar with their posts, but the point was entirely missed , and it actually related to the topic at hand. It got ridiculous. Really the monorail's path is irrelevant to the argument about the Red Car Trolley, and even I forgot that when pointlessly arguing about where the Monorail exactly passes and where it doesn't. LOL.

 

[ChrisFL]

It said...
Krakatau Josh - Say I have this tower, a terrifying tower, and galactic mercenaries are invading. How do I defend it?

Universal Orlando replies: Sell your stock, buy ours and send a message that those galactic mercenaries are ruining history.

Then the site that shall not be named replied to universal ... You are the company that erased JAWS, Back to the Future, King Kong and Hanna-Barberra, right?

Not an SEC violation but WOW, what a tweet.

 

[MOXOMUMD]

Meh, soon it'll be a Gaurdians ride anyway.

I see what you did there.

 

[Californian Elitist]

And I believe that users point stands. Obviously not in the case of the castle. But certainly in the case of the Matterhorn. I don't see how you can say the Matterhorn and monorail are any less connected than tower and the trolley. In both cases we are talking about two different attractions with different themes existing within the same themed area.

No, we're not.

RCT and ToT share a similar theme,and it is specific (RCT even has an appropriately themed show to accompany it). The Monorail isn't specifically themed to anything really. Taking the Monorail and passing by a Swiss mountain is not the same as taking the RTC, a period-themed vehicle, and riding it passed a futuristic, space-looking structure, or even ToT.

Would you deny riding the Monorail and RCT are two vastly different experiences?

 

[peter11435]

Don't bother arguing with the Orange Bird, he's a pretty insufferable member here. He simply MUST always be right and everyone else simply MUST be an agenda pusher. For what its worth, I agree with you. The monorail doesn't not circle the Matterhorn. Anyone who truly believes that has a seriously loose screw.

Haha.. I gladly admit when I am wrong. Look at a map and tell me that the monorail does not go around the Matterhorn.

 

[flynnibus]

And I believe that users point stands. Obviously not in the case of the castle. But certainly in the case of the Matterhorn. I don't see how you can say the Matterhorn and monorail are any less connected than tower and the trolley. In both cases we are talking about two different attractions with different themes existing within the same themed area.

One simply traverses the area as a means to demonstrate 'future transportation' (of decades ago)... the other is a core element of the area.

One moves through the themed area.. the other IS THE THEMED element.

 

[brb1006]

LOL @ Fresh Baked Disney on YouTube trying to claim they broke the rumors a few days after @WDW1974 therefore they are just as deserving of credit. Not sure what's happened to him but he has turned into a total Disney $hill since the SWL announcement. Sick and tired of his self-righteous videos.

I enjoy Fresh Bake Disney before they started making videos about SWL. I still love seeing them around the park though.

 

[peter11435]

One simply traverses the area as a means to demonstrate 'future transportation' (of decades ago)... the other is a core element of the area.

One moves through the themed area.. the other IS THE THEMED element.

And this is a reasonable and intelligent argument. Saying that the monorail does not go around the Matterhorn... Is not.

 

[flynnibus]

Haha.. I gladly admit when I am wrong. Look at a map and tell me that the monorail does not go around the Matterhorn.

Well the matterhorn is about 600ft around... and the monorail takes almost 2.5 miles get 'around' it because the monorail is a LOOP and since the matterhorn is inside the loop... it goes 'around' it like everything else that is inside the loop. But we really don't say the monorail goes 'around' things like Soarin.. even though technically it does because it goes both in front and behind the building (inside the loop).. (and actually is a tighter circle around Soarin than the matterhorn )

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

It said...
Krakatau Josh - Say I have this tower, a terrifying tower, and galactic mercenaries are invading. How do I defend it?

Universal Orlando replies: Sell your stock, buy ours and send a message that those galactic mercenaries are ruining history.

Then the site that shall not be named replied to universal ... You are the company that erased JAWS, Back to the Future, King Kong and Hanna-Barberra, right?

Im confused, must be the lack of dust to snort, I can see the idea behind the comparison to B2TF and HB, they are just new franchises in an existing building, the Disney method of choice, but how is taking something good and shoehorning in excrement the same as taking something tired and jaded and replacing it with new relevant entertainment?
Im suprer stoked to see this fantastic idea become real. or however you brain dead wallopers say it.

 

[Andrew_Ryan]

Just a thought, but I don't think constantly comparing everything to Disneyland, the oldest, most experimental castle park of Disney's legacy, is the best justification for problematic, contemporary additions to the parks.

The placement of the Matterhorn, whether you like it or not, is not an excuse to ignore the concepts of sight-lines and thematic incongruities moving forward.

 

[brb1006]

Kudos Universal

https://twitter.com/UniversalORL/status/757613498448871424

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