Guardians Tower announcement Saturday in SD ...

[P_Radden]

That's called a YouTube video.

hey hey now but you still don't get the scent of the ride itself

 

[TP2000]

I have often wondered how TWDC would react if an attraction announcement was made that resulted in guests boycotting a park in significant numbers.

The official change.org petition after four months of publicity now has 12,295 signatures. That's just slightly more than the number of people who can ride Anaheim's version of Tower of Terror in about 8 hours on an average Saturday. https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-save-the-tower-of-terror

Although to be fair, it's not entirely clear that everyone who signed the petition would then boycott the entire park if the Guardians remake happened.

It will take at least one or two million people signing a change.org petition, in order to achieve at least a few hundred thousand people who would actually "boycott" visiting Disney California Adventure on purpose, before TWDC would ever take notice.

 

[TP2000]

I'm being harsh to make a point. I know DHS's Tower has the upper hand, but to act like the others are "just drop towers" is ridiculous.

I know as a Californian my opinion will instantly be voided by some, but from my first ride on DHS's Tower in 1995 I've thought the 3rd Dimension room was a unconvincing series of rattle-rattle, clunk!, rattle-rattle movements past hokey effects. And time has not been kind to that experience. That said, the queue and the rest of the DHS version was/is brilliantly done and has stood the test of time.

What is quite telling is that the 2004 DCA ride system and physical layout of Tower of Terror was the one they cloned for both Paris and Tokyo in the years that followed.

 

[brb1006]

What time does the Marvel section begin for tomorrow?

 

[TP2000]

And one other thing...

How do we even know what the plotline will be for this new ride? The whole point of tomorrow's Marvel presentation at Comic Con is to talk about Guardians 2 coming out next year. None of us have any idea what the movie will be about, and none of us know anything about how the ride would work or be themed to in DCA, or if it happens in DHS. All we know is that "Tower of Terror will be remade into a Guardians of the Galaxy ride".

And yet we've decided it will be horrible, and it will be cheap, and it will violate the sacred oath of the park dedication plaques out on Buena Vista Street(DCA) or Hollywood Blvd.(DHS). It will also likely steal a piece of our soul and deposit it into a large Mason Jar sitting on a shelf in Bob Chapek's den. Also, Walt's favorite TV show was Twilight Zone. He never missed it.

But maybe on Saturday at 5:30 P.M. San Diego time we might learn something different. Or maybe not.

 

[EPICOT]

I'm very disappointed that this is happening. TOT is in the "spooky" genre of rides which is able to appeal to all ages while a superhero ride will only appeal to fans of that specific movie. I am not a fan of superhero movies and honestly don't know anything about Guardians of the Galaxy. Such a shame as it will be just another ride on the long list of rides I have no interest in riding at DCA.

 

[DisneyGentlemanV2.0]

Why does 'theme' have to mean everything blends together to make a cohesive whole to make the entire experience better then the sum of it's parts...

THEME now means THE Money Engine....
... spittin out bucks as fast as they can be printed!

 

[Variable]

I've never gone to ToT and will never go to its GotG incarnation (if it ever happens at WDW). I just can't force myself to go onto a drop ride. And yes, I do realize it is not just that and it is awesome and all that ... But at the end of the day it is still also a drop ride.

Even though I have no standing here (ride mechanism itself being out of my comfort thrill zone), this really seems like a bad idea. I am fine with overlays when you have a stale or deficient ride and overlay improves it but doing it with perfectly good ride is just wasteful. I guess I am one of the minority here who thinks that FEA is actually a BIG improvement over Maelstrom, and I do look forward to GotG replacing Energy (even though I actually like that ride, I have to admit it is dated). But none of that stands with ToT - perfectly fine the way it is, and the money spent on its overlay could have been used for a brand new experience. Or two. The bottom line is that the park with this overlay will be the same quality as before (or slightly worse, or in best case slightly better), while leaving it as is and building a new ride would absolutely improve the park's lineup.

I don't think one has to ride something, or that the something even has to exist, to have an opinion on the Idea, the Concept. its absolutely human to make such judgements

 

[andre85]

What is quite telling is that the 2004 DCA ride system and physical layout of Tower of Terror was the one they cloned for both Paris and Tokyo in the years that followed.

It's telling in the sense that it's cheaper, uses far less room, and is more reliable because it's far simpler.

WDW's Tower is still the definitive tower experience to me; that "rattle" is no more jarring than the jerky chain-pull that awkwardly starts and ends every other tower

 

[Jiggsawpuzzle35]

Wow I can't believe so many people are throwing a fit over DCAs ToT changing into Guardians of the Galaxy. It wasn't long ago they first opened this attraction and people were complaining that it was built on the cheap to add more rides to a struggling DCA. It was nowhere as good as the one in DHS. Now somehow it's become a iconic attraction. Let's be real folks. This isn't a classic ride like Pirates or Haunted Mansion or Big Thunder Mountain. I enjoy this ride in its current state but I'm looking forward to what they are going to do with it. I'm glad they are not touching the one in Orlando because that one is far superior. Time to move on and enjoy this new reimagined ride and end those stupid petitions.

 

[TeriofTerror]

What time does the Marvel section begin for tomorrow?

I believe the Marvel panel is from 5:30 - 6:45 PDT.

 

[PiratesoftheHM]

I don't believe "Twilight Zone" inspires too many people to come to the parks. "Marvel" or "Guardians of the Galaxy" has that kind of pull. Twilight Zone is a great brand, but alone it will not bring people to the parks. Carl Perkins was a great musician, but slapping his name on something won't have the pull that "Elvis Presley" would have.

No, but a well themed attraction does pull people to the parks. See: BTMRR, Space Mountain, EE. This kind of thinking is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Wow I can't believe so many people are throwing a fit over DCAs ToT changing into Guardians of the Galaxy. It wasn't long ago they first opened this attraction and people were complaining that it was built on the cheap to add more rides to a struggling DCA. It was nowhere as good as the one in DHS. Now somehow it's become a iconic attraction. Let's be real folks. This isn't a classic ride like Pirates or Haunted Mansion or Big Thunder Mountain. I enjoy this ride in its current state but I'm looking forward to what they are going to do with it. I'm glad they are not touching the one in Orlando because that one is far superior. Time to move on and enjoy this new reimagined ride and end those stupid petitions.

People are upset mainly because an attraction with an original backstory is being rethemed to something based on an IP. That's where the ill feelings are stemming from, not from the fact that people originally and probably still feel it was built on the cheap side.

There is a bigger issue here.

 

[PiratesoftheHM]

Wow I can't believe so many people are throwing a fit over DCAs ToT changing into Guardians of the Galaxy. It wasn't long ago they first opened this attraction and people were complaining that it was built on the cheap to add more rides to a struggling DCA. It was nowhere as good as the one in DHS. Now somehow it's become a iconic attraction. Let's be real folks. This isn't a classic ride like Pirates or Haunted Mansion or Big Thunder Mountain. I enjoy this ride in its current state but I'm looking forward to what they are going to do with it. I'm glad they are not touching the one in Orlando because that one is far superior. Time to move on and enjoy this new reimagined ride and end those stupid petitions.

So would you like them to gut the MK POTC ride and turn it into Moana because the DLR version is far superior?

 

[marni1971]

That's all the Tower of Terror at Disney land is. Disney World's Tower of Terror is another story.

Did you miss the show effects in the drop shaft?

 

[marni1971]

There is a reason why the newer ToT's dropped (hah!) the fifth dimension scene..

Technical and budgetary.

 

[Progress.City]

I'm just shocked it took Disney this long to exploit their Marvel IP at the parks.

As for how I feel about the Anaheim TTToT re-theme, it's okay because they messed up that version by cutting out the Fifth Dimension scene. As long as they keep the Florida version of TZToT, I'm fine with it.

 

[Progress.City]

So would you like them to gut the MK POTC ride and turn it into Moana because the DLR version is far superior?

The deletion of the Fifth Dimension scene is the equivalent to deleting the canon battle scene of Pirates. Fortunately, this was not deleted in Florida.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Are you trying to say that the extra scenes in Disneyland's PotC are detracting? I rode it twice last year. That couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm saying they were considered unnecessary, a filler by necessity of having to move the boats beyond the berm. As in movie editing, the object is to get the story moving along and to cut what isn't necessary. What was neeed to set the scene and atmosphere was included in Florida's queue.

Although as a rider, especially a regular one, the long winding, relatively calm parts of DL Pirates are some of the finest and most atmospheric. Pirates might be nicer when it isn't just high intensity.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I know as a Californian my opinion will instantly be voided by some, but from my first ride on DHS's Tower in 1995 I've thought the 3rd Dimension room was a unconvincing series of rattle-rattle, clunk!, rattle-rattle movements past hokey effects. And time has not been kind to that experience. That said, the queue and the rest of the DHS version was/is brilliantly done and has stood the test of time.

What is quite telling is that the 2004 DCA ride system and physical layout of Tower of Terror was the one they cloned for both Paris and Tokyo in the years that followed.

I am in your minority camp. In fact, I think DCA's ToT superior (except for looks), and DL's Pirates inferior to the WDW version. :lookarou