Guardians Tower announcement Saturday in SD ...

[JUFL2019]

The backstory is original. It may be based around The Twilight Zone, but the story behind the ride is original, if I'm correct, and wasn't a previous episode of the series.

You aren't wrong. But neither is he by saying its an IP based attraction.

 

[Daveeeeed]

The backstory is original. It may be based around The Twilight Zone, but the story behind the ride is original, if I'm correct, and wasn't a previous episode of the series.

Same could be argued for Frozen: Ever After. Technically an original story based around an ip. I'm just hoping that Tot will not get any major update in wdw as it is so perfect as it is.

 

[DlpPhantom]

Joe Rhode is at comic con he could be the one making the announcement.

 

[Magenta Panther]

Joe Rhode is at comic con he could be the one making the announcement.

I'm really starting to feel sorry for the guy. First the broken yeti, and now this...

 

[Bairstow]

The backstory is original. It may be based around The Twilight Zone, but the story behind the ride is original, if I'm correct, and wasn't a previous episode of the series.

You're both correct, in a way.

I feel as though the Florida and California versions of the ride owe much more of their inspiration to the novel and film "The Shining" than to The Twilight Zone. (A haunted elevator, ghostly hotel guests, ominous boiler room, distorted 1930s music, etc.) In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the Twilight Zone theme elements were an addition that came fairly late in the ride's conceptual process.

Now while it would certainly possible from a design perspective, I wonder whether it would be legally or contractually feasible to remove the licensed "Twilight Zone" elements from the attraction without changing the underlying story.

 

[dreamscometrue]

But I think that's the thing. I, and assume most others feel the same way, don't doubt the attraction will be good. But that doesn't make it a good fit.

That may be the case, but I like to wait to learn more. Who knows, maybe the Guardians of the Galaxy will be transporting us to The Twilight Zone.

 

[tirian]

@The Empress Lilly

You aren't the first person to think that the extensive queue makes WDW's POTC better than DL's. Even Marc Davis cut the final scenes from Florida's version because he thought the uphill waterfall was silly. (He also wanted to "at least top pirates with pirates," but that didn't happen.)

Of course, Florida was supposed to get Western River Expedition.

I'm saying they were considered unnecessary, a filler by necessity of having to move the boats beyond the berm. As in movie editing, the object is to get the story moving along and to cut what isn't necessary. What was neeed to set the scene and atmosphere was included in Florida's queue.

Although as a rider, especially a regular one, the long winding, relatively calm parts of DL Pirates are some of the finest and most atmospheric. Pirates might be nicer when it isn't just high intensity.

I am in your minority camp. In fact, I think DCA's ToT superior (except for looks), and DL's Pirates inferior to the WDW version. :lookarou

 

[Magenta Panther]

You obviously do not get it if you think it's just a falling ride. You would be better off saving your money and going to the local amusement park.

Exactly. Disney's attractions excel because they tell a story well. They're not just about GOING REAL FAST DURRR!!!!

 

[Variable]

Joe Rhode is at comic con he could be the one making the announcement.

Well everything will be ok then, because when Joe says it's ok, it's officially the greatest thing ever.

 

[Magenta Panther]

Well everything will be ok then, because when Joe says it's ok, it's officially the greatest thing ever.

Serious or sarcasm?

I realize that it's not all in Joe's hands, but the BROKEN YETI!!! It's been broken for years and nothing has been done! It's a freaking disgrace. And whose fault is it that it broke so early anyway, and whose fault is it that it's still not fixed?

If TDO is so LAME that it can't figure out how to restore the figure, then why doesn't it just clone the Yeti from the Matterhorn, put it in Everest, and be done already? Better than nothing and way better than what's there - TDO's worst failure. I can't believe there's such a lack of pride and professionalism in that group. They should all be fired for this alone.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

@The Empress Lilly

You aren't the first person to think that the extensive queue makes WDW's POTC better than DL's. Even Marc Davis cut the final scenes from Florida's version because he thought the uphill waterfall was silly. (He also wanted to "at least top pirates with pirates," but that didn't happen.)

Of course, Florida was supposed to get Western River Expedition.

WRE... :'(

I must say, when I look at ride reconstructions, it sorta looks okay, but not as good as Pirates. The adventure and slight mystery of Pirates tops the whimsy of WRE. Not to mention, its subject matter is even more un-pc than 'haha rrrraping pirates arrr'.
The rockwork looks spectacular though, I can't help but wonder how magnificent our RoA would've looked with that massive cliff on one side. It went along beautifully with the MK's grand scale.


DLP + the unfortunate 'Where's Johnny' overlays have rendered the game of 'DL vs MK Pirates' a bit moot.

 

[brb1006]

I believe the Marvel panel is from 5:30 - 6:45 PDT.

What would that mean for EST?

 

[andre85]

What would that mean for EST?

3 hours later, so 8:30 - 9:45

 

[FigmentJedi]

Same could be argued for Frozen: Ever After. Technically an original story based around an ip. I'm just hoping that Tot will not get any major update in wdw as it is so perfect as it is.

Frozen Ever After doesn't even have a story. It's a Meet and Greet in ride form.

 

[Mike S]

I'm saying they were considered unnecessary, a filler by necessity of having to move the boats beyond the berm. As in movie editing, the object is to get the story moving along and to cut what isn't necessary. What was neeed to set the scene and atmosphere was included in Florida's queue.

Although as a rider, especially a regular one, the long winding, relatively calm parts of DL Pirates are some of the finest and most atmospheric. Pirates might be nicer when it isn't just high intensity.

Why does that quote lead to a post from @marni1971 when it's mine?

Anyway, I think the fact that Western River Expedition was supposed to have very similar scenes to the ones "edited out" of Pirates is why it happened.

http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/2015/01/all-about-western-river-expedition-part_29.html

http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/2015/02/all-about-western-river-expedition-part.html?m=1

I am in your minority camp. In fact, I think DCA's ToT superior (except for looks), and DL's Pirates inferior to the WDW version. :lookarou

Extreme minority

At some point we need to give up and accept that any outrage is only making life worse for ourselves and not affecting Disney CO. at all.

I think you're overestimating how much this stuff affects our lives outside the forums. What we do here, it's called venting. Blowing off steam with like minded people.

Now while it would certainly possible from a design perspective, I wonder whether it would be legally or contractually feasible to remove the licensed "Twilight Zone" elements from the attraction without changing the underlying story.

Personally I wouldn't want to see them try. The ride as it exists is damn near perfect imo.

 

[Suspirian]

If you zoom in on this pic taken at the SDCC floor of the Marvel stage, you'll see the GotG Vol 2 banner. Those doors, floor, etc. look veeeery familiar and very well could be a teaser for the new ride. The doors open the same way as the ToT. Floor grates are there. Very possible.

Does look very familiar. Nice catch

 

[WDW862]

Serious or sarcasm?

I realize that it's not all in Joe's hands, but the BROKEN YETI!!! It's been broken for years and nothing has been done! It's a freaking disgrace. And whose fault is it that it broke so early anyway, and whose fault is it that it's still not fixed?

Stop whining.

Fixing the yeti is a huge and expensive job, it was causing foundation issues and the ride would have to be closed for many months, it will be fixed after avatar opens. It's a huge crowd puller and it would be stupid to close it down right now.

Joe Rohde actually explained this



Edit: The forum wont let it go to the specific time. Go to 48:30

 

[Variable]

Stop whining.

Fixing the yeti is a huge and expensive job, it was causing foundation issues and the ride would have to be closed for many months, it will be fixed after avatar opens. It's a huge crowd puller and it would be stupid to close it down right now.

Joe Rohde actually explained this



Edit: The forum wont let it go to the specific time. Go to 48:30

See, Joe is always right. Every thing he's involved with and talks about is absolutely correct for Disney and its guests.

 

[Variable]

This must be an amazing movie.

Considering what that car likely is under the tarp, has to be right?

 

[WDW862]

See, Joe is always right. Every thing he's involved with and talks about is absolutely correct for Disney and its guests.

Did you not read my other points? Its stupid to close down a major crowd puller right now, this is a very hard and expensive job to do. I also doubt its Joe's fault unless hes one of the civil engineers who designed the building.