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Guardians of the Galaxy - Mission: BREAKOUT! Reviews, Photos, Info
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Kram Sacul
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I think it might be a little too late for that unless it could also help explain how the Collector's fortress/warehouse/power plant landed right on top of and took on the shape of the Hollywood Tower Hotel.
dweezil78
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How is that much different than this? Other than one having a mirror/screen w/ a effect that lasts a few seconds vs. a super hi-res screen w/ parallax effects. It may look rendered, but it's not...so not really sure what to say about that part!
lightningtap347
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I agree, however I don't feel like this is much of an upgrade either. This feels like a lateral move at most, an a move to bring corporate and marketing synergy into the parks.
britain
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Here's another thing: Guardians of the Galaxy has to be 'cool'. As in, "Too cool for school." And a sophisticated animatronic, even one as impressive as the Na'vi Shaman, isn't "cool". It's impressive, but it's too earnest and sincere.
It's better for Star Lord to be (wink wink) 'there' via a big screen than pour millions into uncanny valley and be mocked for your efforts anyway. This is not time to be super-immersed. This is not Pirates or Pandora, or the Star Wars Experience. This is tongue-in-cheek and meta. "Hey, is that Disneyland?"
I'll even say that while the animatronic Rocket is great, but there's still a twinge of Tiki Room about it. I suppose that dichotomy is appropriate for Rocket's cute/violent nature.
It's better for Star Lord to be (wink wink) 'there' via a big screen than pour millions into uncanny valley and be mocked for your efforts anyway. This is not time to be super-immersed. This is not Pirates or Pandora, or the Star Wars Experience. This is tongue-in-cheek and meta. "Hey, is that Disneyland?"
I'll even say that while the animatronic Rocket is great, but there's still a twinge of Tiki Room about it. I suppose that dichotomy is appropriate for Rocket's cute/violent nature.
Disney Analyst
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Well in this concept the Tower Hotel never existed... so it doesn't matter.
Professortango1
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I was talking about the ride itself. The queue is a lot of fun, and arguably more interesting than TOT's queue. The animatronic is phenomenal, but once again, we're talking about the ride. If they had incorporated some Groot/Rocket/Tencacles/etc animatronics to pop out of wall panels or the ceiling a la Tough to Be A Bug, then that would be a great improvement. Instead they took a 3D world and made it 2D.
As for Tower being just screens, that's not true. If the hallway was a hallway themed border and the rest of the scene was on a flat screen, then you'd have a point. Disney could have easily had a flat projected hallway that morphs and changes via movie special effects and editing. But they didn't, they knew the story needed a 3 dimensional hallway that projection would interact with, but not replace. Even the mirror scene had tons of practical effects occurring in the hallway. The mirror was the focus, but not the only piece of visual interest. With these screens, there isn't any visual interest in the sets surrounding them.
lightningtap347
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Right, but in real life it did, and this is something people will notice about the structure. If they modified the building at all this really wouldn't be a problem, but as it is, it's just the Tower with a new coat of paint and a different tone.
Disney Analyst
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But I mean, that's not their job to help you forget the old, in the end you are always going to remember what was, especially on a redressed attraction... That becomes your job, to suspend disbelief. Their job is to build enough story to justify what currently exists... Now I'm not sharing whether I think it's been successful or not, but I think the charred, burned border will help.
Kram Sacul
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That mirror effect was great. It was a little set but the lighting, animation and effects sold it. It made you believe you were in an abandoned creepy hotel with a past. That's Disney.
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Professortango1
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How is that different? Well, for one, look at the size of the "screen." Clearly the mirror is a lot smaller showing how the screen is a part of the attraction and not the sole focus on this floor. Also, the screen is 2D, but that's okay as it is supposed to be a mirror. The current screen is supposed to be open air right in front of you, but instead it feels like a 2D image you're separate from. One worked with our reality, the other works against it. Lastly, are effects occurring outside of the screen. For TOT, the answer is yes. Lightning, wind, the transformation of the walls being glowing to peeling paint. These are other pieces of visual interest. For Guardians...not so much. The only things occurring are within the screen itself. So...quite a few differences. Thanks for posting the visual aid.
lightningtap347
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I think it will help too, I just think modifying the structure as well would've helped them "do their job"
Disney Analyst
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Okay let's be honest here.... the original ToT scenes in the DCA version were nothing to scream home about... Yes, they helped tell the story, and fit the mood, but they also could have been FAR better than they were.
Their job is not to satisfy the local fanatics, such as y'all, but to satisfy the general populace. It is obvious from the reviews, that they have done that.
lightningtap347
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I don't live anywhere near Disneyland, so idk where you got that from. And based on the "general populace" of Facebook, Youtube, and Twitter comments; not really.
Edit: Also, it seems everyone has a different job description for the imagineers. Also, I think it looks fine and is a lateral move, as I said before.
Professortango1
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I thought they were much better than the scenes in the Florida original. They weren't incredibly elaborate, but they worked for the story they were were telling. It was a story of an abandoned hotel. That means a lot of stillness and an empty feeling. The scenes helped play upon that mood. This new ride is action rather than horror, so I understand the changes. However, I just don't think the screens were integrated in an effective way. They look like screens and nothing occurs near our lift, so there's no depth or action coming at us. We're removed.
Exactly, just like seeing Mickey in Town Hall means that the big mouse in the parade outside isn't Mickey and we have to come up with a new name for that imposter rodent.
Sorry, the way you were talking, I just figured you were. Oh yes, social media such as FB and the Twitverse is really where you should be getting all of your information. I'll just wait until I actually ride it in person before making up my mind about how well the imagineers did with this one.
mickEblu
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Dude, you don't have to take everything so seriously. Relax. It was a joke.
Professortango1
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That's why Disney makes sure the characters are away during parades, so this never occurs. Also, Disney sets a standard on character looks. Mickey looks the same every time you see him. He might be in different outfits, but his face remains the same. Harold 1.0 and 2.0 do look like different characters.
