Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

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There's no good way to make that thing make thematic sense. Tivan isn't even in GOTG2. He's apparently in Thor Ragnarok so I guess we'll need to see that for more information about his alien race. But as it stands right now, it's IP insertion plain and simple and it will take a whole lot of reworking for it to be anything more substantial.

Edit: Sorry, also: Its really a retrograde style addition where we've jumped back to the cheapest way to insert an attraction into a park without an actual environment to support it thematically, and with deep environmental storytelling. If you look at Star Wars land, they're doing that right. You couldn't plop Star Tours into it without changes because it wouldn't have the same look tone or sense of location and the actual films ST uses wouldn't work either because they jump eras and just are generally a mess.
So on one end of the property is Star Wars land, likely to be the greatest themed space in America, and on the other end you have a Marvel land that begins with an cosmic aliens tower of alien objects.
The same reason Star Wars land isn't made up of a Death Star spinner, a Hoth boat ride and a Tatooine moisture farming experience is the same reason we shouldn't have a tower in place of an actual cohesive Marvel land.

Everything about SWL is more of an exception than the norm for Disney. MB may not jive with it's immediate surroundings, but it certainly isn't the first or only DLR attraction to do so.
 

mickEblu

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Everything about SWL is more of an exception than the norm for Disney. MB may not jive with it's immediate surroundings, but it certainly isn't the first or only DLR attraction to do so.

No but I'd argue that the degree it doesn't jive is unprecedented all while being the most polarizing facade in Disney park history. I've never heard anyone call the Matterhorn or Space Mountain Fugly. The fact that it's so damn tall doesn't help either. Which is why it's so confusing that they didn't take the exterior in another direction.
 
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HonorableMention

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I'm excited for the actual ride (not a huge fan of the design, but I've accepted it), but I'm praying that the ride taking place in Disneyland is just a placeholder until an actual Marvel land is built. It just seems so awkward to have that thrown in there and it will definitely take away from the actual ride.

I know they had to fit the doors opening into the story somehow, but they could use a better excuse. You can see the park when you go down the drop at Splash Mountain, why do they have to acknowledge Disneyland here?
 

mickEblu

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I'm excited for the actual ride (not a huge fan of the design, but I've accepted it), but I'm praying that the ride taking place in Disneyland is just a placeholder until an actual Marvel land is built. It just seems so awkward to have that thrown in there and it will definitely take away from the actual ride.

I know they had to fit the doors opening into the story somehow, but they could use a better excuse. You can see the park when you go down the drop at Splash Mountain, why do they have to acknowledge Disneyland here?

I agree. There is absolutely no need for that backstory. I think that shows that they acknowledge how misplaced this thing is.
 

Suspirian

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I'm excited for the actual ride (not a huge fan of the design, but I've accepted it), but I'm praying that the ride taking place in Disneyland is just a placeholder until an actual Marvel land is built. It just seems so awkward to have that thrown in there and it will definitely take away from the actual ride.

I know they had to fit the doors opening into the story somehow, but they could use a better excuse. You can see the park when you go down the drop at Splash Mountain, why do they have to acknowledge Disneyland here?

TBH the couldv'e just switched out Disneyland with Hollywood and it would've made sense
 
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No but I'd argue that the degree it doesn't jive is unprecedented all while being the most polarizing facade in Disney park history. I've never heard anyone call the Matterhorn or Space Mountain Fugly.

We weren't really talking about aesthetics though. That's a different and less definitive point to be argued.

BTW I thought your final verdict was that that your opinion was that the facade was ok after you saw it in person.
 
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mickEblu

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We weren't really talking about aesthetics though. That's a different and less definitive point to be argued.

BTW I thought your final verdict was that that your opinion was that the facade was ok after you saw it in person.

Oh ok. But my "the degree it doesn't jive" comment is valid though right?

No I just thought it didn't look any worse or better than it does in pictures. I remembered reading some posts where opinions changed after the Tower was seen in person so thought I would give my 2 cents. I still thought it was ugly but not uglier than the pictures. In a vaccum I don't think it's terrible but from vantage points where it can be seen in the background it's not great.
 
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But my "the degree it doesn't jive" comment is valid though right

I suppose. My view is that while it may look bizarre now in a year or so most people won't know or care. Imagine how shocking it might be if the Matterhorn were plopped between FL and TL next to a tropical coral reef today.

Anyway, I didn't come here to rehash this whole argument. I was only pointing out the fact that the immersive approach to SW Land is the exception rather than the rule.
 

mickEblu

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One of my least favorite views of the new tower that no one seems to be talking about is the esplanade. I really hate how it looks from there. Granted TOT never looked great from there. Maybe I just got used to the old tower but there is just something that feels very Un-Disney when I'm looking at the new tower from the esplanade.
 
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mickEblu

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I suppose. My view is that while it may look bizarre now in a year or so most people won't know or care. Imagine how shocking it might be if the Matterhorn were plopped between FL and TL next to a tropical coral reef today.

Anyway, I didn't come here to rehash this whole argument. I was only pointing out the fact that the immersive approach to SW Land is the exception rather than the rule.


Yeah I suppose we ll get used to seeing it. Yea the Mountain/ coral reef would be bizarre today too but I think most people universally agree that they are both pleasant to look at and feel Disney.
 

Suspirian

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I suppose. My view is that while it may look bizarre now in a year or so most people won't know or care. Imagine how shocking it might be if the Matterhorn were plopped between FL and TL next to a tropical coral reef today.

Anyway, I didn't come here to rehash this whole argument. I was only pointing out the fact that the immersive approach to SW Land is the exception rather than the rule.

Yeah I suppose we ll get used to seeing it. Yea the Mountain/ coral reef would be bizarre today too but I think most people universally agree that they are both pleasant to look at and feel Disney.

I feel like somewhere down the line there will be a rework of the exterior...hopefully
 

mickEblu

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I feel like somewhere down the line there will be a rework of the exterior...hopefully

Would it be crazy to think they turn it back into TOT one day? I mean they overlayed the new tower in about 10 months. Maybe if they bring it back they ll make sure the exterior is up to WDW standards.

Probably wishful thinking I know.

No way in hell. Maybe if it stayed as a one off attraction. But Marvel Land basically ensures that TOT is gone for good.
 

TP2000

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I feel like somewhere down the line there will be a rework of the exterior...hopefully

Or, it opens May 27th and then 50 days later on July 16th they announce at D23 Expo the 10 acre Marvel Superhero City expansion of Disney California Adventure south of Mission: Breakout. And then Mission: Breakout becomes the entry gateway into an area of even wilder and bizarre Marvel cartoon architecture and themes.
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And with that plan Mission: Breakout becomes the filtering buffer between the obviously fake facades and cheap stucco boxes of the dethroned Paul Pressler's Hollywood area and this new ultra-themed expansion built by new execs unafraid to spend big money on its theme parks.
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