Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

[mickEblu]

Kaboom was said multiple times through out his talking about it. I took it to mean more than just, "Hey this thing is out of place here". As it were a description on why it looks the way it does.

Anyways, the point is its the Collectors building. He is eccentric, things don't have to have purpose or meaning for an eccentric being like the Collector.

My issue isn't with the Collectors personal taste ( which in this case was designed to match the boiler room and Disneys agenda of getting this attraction up and running ASAP), its how his building towers over the rest of the park and looks out of place.

 

[mickEblu]

buildings are shaped a way for a purpose... the problem here is they can't articulate why this is what it is.. and so its always going to stick out to people as forced since we know the prior use. They need to solve that for people to start to accept it's physical presence.. forget the adornments...

Right. Which is why it is a museum, warehouse and a warehouse.

 

[Disney Irish]

My issue isn't with the Collectors personal taste ( which in this case was designed to match the boiler room and Disneys agenda of getting this attraction up and running ASAP), its how his building towers over the rest of the park and looks out of place.

I get how to you (and lots of others) that it feels and looks out of place. However that is the whole point in my opinion. Its meant to look out of place. Its meant to be jarring. Its meant to be curious and eye catching, so much so that it draws you in. And I believe it will be used as the ultimate weenie when Marvel Land is built.

 

[Disney Irish]

buildings are shaped a way for a purpose... the problem here is they can't articulate why this is what it is.. and so its always going to stick out to people as forced since we know the prior use. They need to solve that for people to start to accept it's physical presence.. forget the adornments...

In Sci-Fi and Comics, which this covers both of those genres, buildings don't have to be shaped to their purpose. Aliens don't follow human architecture disciplines.

For example, Space Mountain, whats the purpose of its shape?

 

[flynnibus]

In Sci-Fi and Comics, which this covers both of those genres, buildings don't have to be shaped to their purpose. Aliens don't follow human architecture disciplines.

Whut? They are shaped to their purpose... their purpose may just not be a familiar use to what earth does. The forms are still justifiable, just foreign. Try justifying why a warehouse a 13 story tall vertical building on a gravity planet...

For example, Space Mountain, whats the purpose of its shape?

Space Mountain is not masquerading as a practical structure... try again.

 

[Disney Irish]

Can we talk about the show scenes for a sec? I hope that they include some practical effects like the Star field in TOT and at least some physical sets in the foreground. A tiny Rocket AA should be a no brainer as I imagine it wouldn't be a huge undertaking and as the star of the attractions plot, he should be in the foreground somehow.

I do agree that some practical effects are needed. And I hope we get them. I'm still holding out hope for an AA, like you said a Rocket one should be a no brainer.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I would disagree. The Collector is a fanatic. Why would he leave an undecorated black painted stripe down his power plant/fortress/warehouse/museum?

It's pretty obvious from the Imagineer interviews so far that no one can actually justify the exterior design. They don't know what it is, there is no unifying purpose. It's just KABOOM!, which is not a theme.

Not disagreeing, just pointing out there doesn't need to be a justification for the exterior any more than there needs to be a justification for why The Collector hordes things inside.

 

[mickEblu]

I get how to you (and lots of others) that it feels and looks out of place. However that is the whole point in my opinion. Its meant to look out of place. Its meant to be jarring. Its meant to be curious and eye catching, so much so that it draws you in. And I believe it will be used as the ultimate weenie when Marvel Land it built.

And my point is that they cooked up that story to make sense of the fact that it looks out place (Alien tower in DCA/ Hollywood land / pre Marvel Land) and it appears that you have bought it.

I don't believe that it's meant to look out of place. All of the imagineers didn't get in a room and say "you know what, let's make this look really out of place, that's the story." Maybe you would have a point if it was a purpose built attraction in a purpose built land. I think that after Chapek sent the mandate to get Marvel in the park and they decided to overlay TOT, it was then budget and feasability that dictated everything else. Thy realized they had an issue on their hands and the museum/ warehouse/ power plant and KABOOM is just something they re trying to say to cover up the poor planning and the fact that this alien tower is looming around. You don't really believe this whole "out of place" thing was a creative decision do you?


I believe the crazy colors and pipes is WDIs attempt to disassociate the new tower from the old. The approach leaves a lot to be desired. But I guess it was better than just leaving it as a haunted hotel If the goal was to make us forget that the tower used to be TOT.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Anyways, the point is its the Collectors building. He is eccentric, things don't have to have purpose or meaning for an eccentric being like the Collector.

Seems reasonable to me, and jives with what we're seeing in the photos.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

For example, Space Mountain, whats the purpose of its shape?

And why are we traveling through outer space in open air rolercoaster train?

 

[Disney Irish]

And my point is that they cooked up that story to make sense of the fact that it looks out place (Alien tower in DCA/ Hollywood land / pre Marvel Land and it appears that you have bought it.

I don't believe that it's meant to look out of place. All of the imagineers didn't get in a room and say "you know what, let's make this look really out of place, that's the story." Maybe you would have a point if it was a purpose built attraction in a purpose built land. I think that after Chapek sent the mandate to get Marvel in the park and they decided to overlay TOT, it was then budget and feasability that dictated everything else. Thy realized they had an issue on their hands and the museum/ warehouse/ power plant and KABOOM is just something they re trying to say to cover up the poor planning and the fact that this alien tower is looming around. You don't really believe this whole "out of place" thing was a creative decision do you?


I believe the crazy colors and pipes is WDIs attempt to disassociate the new tower from the old. The approach leaves a lot to be desired. But I guess it was better than just leaving it as a haunted hotel.

First that is very condescending. Just because I can see why things are being done from the story side, doesn't mean I "bought it". It means I have an understanding of Marvel and how it fits into the story of the characters involved.

Secondly, what I believe they did is they were given the directive to put Marvel in the parks. They were told these are the group of characters you can use. And were told this is the building you have to re-purpose to do it. Then they worked with Marvel folks to come up with a story to incorporate the MCU. Then went forth to design it. Given the character being used they had to come up with something that would be outlandish and eccentric, that is the character of the Collector. And given the constraints of the building being used and the time frame used they had limited design that could be done.

Was it the ultimate project and the best way to get Marvel in the parks, in my opinion no but we aren't in charge. But does it do what it was intended to do, yes. Its gets us talking about Marvel and used to having Marvel in the parks. And gets us buzzing about the future of Marvel projects they can bring into the parks.

 

[mickEblu]

First that is very condescending. Just because I can see why things are being done from the story side, doesn't mean I "bought it". It means I have an understanding of Marvel and how it fits into the story of the characters involved.

Secondly, what I believe they did is they were given the directive to put Marvel in the parks. They were told these are the group of characters you can use. And were told this is the building you have to re-purpose to do it. Then they worked with Marvel folks to come up with a story to incorporate the MCU. Then went forth to design it. Given the character being used they had to come up with something that would be outlandish and eccentric, that is the character of the Collector. And given the constraints of the building being used and the time frame used they had limited design that could be done.

Was it the ultimate project and the best way to get Marvel in the parks, in my opinion no but we aren't in charge. But does it do what it was intended to do, yes. Its gets us talking about Marvel and used to having Marvel in the parks. And gets us buzzing about the future of Marvel projects they can bring into the parks.

Sorry didn't mean to sound condescending. Let's just agree to disagree. I was just trying to display that it appears that Disney is getting what they wanted out of that back story.

 

[Antaundra]

I cannot get over the black stripe. Why did they leave a chunk of the building black? I can't figure it out

I absolutely agree about the black stripe. Overall I'm supportive of this project and I don't hate the new exterior. There is a certain prettiness to the mess but I have two major complaints. It bothers me that there is so much added to the front of the tower but the sides are completely bare. Why wouldn't there be pipes and satellites all over this fortress power plant? The biggest problem I have with it though is that stupid black stripe. Are they trying to create the illusion that it's two towers? If they are who thought painting a giant wall outside black would achieve the illusion of negative space? Painting the walls black doesn't even create the illusion of open space inside the haunted mansion. If they aren't trying to create the illusion of two towers then why on earth would this gaudy gold monstrosity have a black stripe bisecting it?

 

[Disney Irish]

Whut? They are shaped to their purpose... their purpose may just not be a familiar use to what earth does. The forms are still justifiable, just foreign. Try justifying why a warehouse a 13 story tall vertical building on a gravity planet...

Since the story is that it belongs to the Collector, we can say it was not built here on Earth. So where it was built this could have been the design of choice. Maybe warehouses are tall vertical buildings because real estate is at a premium on this foreign place, so they build up instead of out. There can be many reasons, all of which could make no sense to us on Earth. Also since we only know the basic story inside, but not how it plays out, we don't know if the inside is meant to make it seem bigger.

At some point we just have to suspend disbelief with this project. Just like we do with a lot of Disney Parks attractions.

Space Mountain is not masquerading as a practical structure... try again.

Its meant to be a space port, that is practical. So what does its shape have anything to do with being a space port?

 

[Disney Irish]

Sorry didn't mean to sound condescending. Let's just agree to disagree. I was just trying to display that it appears that Disney is getting what they wanted out of that back story.

I'll say it again, at some point we just have to suspend disbelief with this project and go with the story of the attraction. Just like we do with a lot of Disney Parks attractions.

 

[Californian Elitist]

No "kaboom" was just an acknowledgment that the GOTG tower looks extremely out of place as well as an attempt to make it make any sort of sense.

Bingo.

 

[Curious Constance]

I cannot get over the black stripe. Why did they leave a chunk of the building black? I can't figure it out

Do you think this will be a special effect of some kind?

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Do you think this will be a special effect of some kind?

I don't know. I sure hope so because it looks like they just ran out of money in the middle.

 

[Californian Elitist]

There's nothing in Rhode's interview that suggests "KABOOM!" relates to the origins of The Collector.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

If the collector truly wants to torture the Guardians, he should just give them a prison room that forces them to look at the exterior of the building.

 

[mickEblu]

I'll say it again, at some point we just have to suspend disbelief with this project and go with the story of the attraction. Just like we do with a lot of Disney Parks attractions.

My issue isn't with suspending disbelief. If we couldn't do that, I don't think any of us would be the Disney parks fans we are. My main issue is that it just doesn't look good from almost everywhere in the park.