Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

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Absolutely. Even though it would make more sense at DL. Isn't DCA Oswalds park?

If so someone needs to tell Oswald about this:

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Curious Constance

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I know you're partially joking, but in all seriousness I can't think of anyone who could fill his shoes. I'm pretty sure one notable within Disney could otherwise the board would have promoted them by now. It's kind of troubling when you think about it.

It is. Especially when you consider even if he's willing to stay, despite looking like he's 20, he's not getting any younger and can't do this for THAT much longer.
 

Travel Junkie

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And despite what you think about the type of additions to the park during Bob's tenure, you can't deny there has been LOTS invested in the parks, and continues to be so. I'd hate to get someone in there that doesn't ever put a dime towards updating the parks.

Until the last year or so capex for most of Iger's tenure has been at historically low levels for the company. Wall Street has loved his lack of investment in the parks. Now WDW in particular is trying to make up for lost time as they have a lot of construction projects ongoing.
 
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And despite what you think about the type of additions to the park during Bob's tenure, you can't deny there has been LOTS invested in the parks, and continues to be so. I'd hate to get someone in there that doesn't ever put a dime towards updating the parks.

Exactly. I think the most obvious difference in management style between Iger and Eisner is that Iger gives the divisions far more autonomy and freedom. The outcome has been greater agility and better ability to scale the brand(s) across the globe. There's no question that this has been a big factor in Disney's unprecedented financial growth since he took over management of the company. As successful as Disney's renaissance was during Eisner's tenure it's hard to imagine the man who was notorious for putting his mark on everything - from acting as the host on the Wonderful World of Disney program to designing drapes in the hotels - being as adept at driving the current business.
 
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Wall Street has loved his lack of investment in the parks. Now WDW in particular is trying to make up for lost time as they have a lot of construction projects ongoing.

Under Eisner WDW was developed and expanded to the hilt while DLR just sat there collecting dust with a new ride added every few years until the DLR expansion came along. Iger may have under-invested in Florida, but given how well it has performed despite the lack of TLC it's understandable why Wall Street wasn't bothered.
 

BrianLo

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In the real world I doubt anyone ever saw a talking skull as Pirates were robbing them in the Caribbean. Even the "real world" rides are fantasy versions.

I believe they are referring to Hall of Presidents and to a lesser extent Great moments with Mr. Lincoln.

Ironically the Muppets invasion I've heard nothing but great things. Fandom does appreciate well done irreverence in the end.
 

mickEblu

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I believe they are referring to Hall of Presidents and to a lesser extent Great moments with Mr. Lincoln.

Ironically the Muppets invasion I've heard nothing but great things. Fandom does appreciate well done irreverence in the end.

Even so, I don't think it's the best example. It's tucked away and the facade fits perfectly with its surrounding theme.

Not sure how that compares to my initial thought that prompted his post anyway. Which was how do they plan to integrate BVS into DAP if the rumors are to believed and the California theme goes away entirely. Which was in part a rhetorical question. The answer is nothing. It ll just be there as a great entrance to the park. IMO it's just another example of theme being watered down. After all I think these are still THEME parks we are talking about. Watered down the same way we we'll have a Trolley going by an alien tower instead of A Hollywood hotel. The park will still be fun. Most people won't care. But I don't think anyone can say the theming is not taking a step backwards at DCA. And it sounds like the possible solution is "let's just rename the park the most generic name possible that way everything makes sense."

Lincoln and Figment are poor examples to compare to what's happening at DCA. Neither of them do anything to detract from the theme of the land. Comparing what Lincoln is to DL to what BVS (entrance) may be to the parks new "theme" is silly.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
What's the theme of Disneyland?

Exactly. I think of BVS as the Main St of DCA. In DL Main St ends at the Hub and doesn't extend into the other lands. In DCA once you get past its Hub, the fountain and partner statue, BVS doesn't extend into the other lands.

So to expand upon this, its not like the rest of DL is about Marceline. And on the flip side with DCA if they remove the overall CA theme, then BVS will still be Walt's CA, with the rest of DCA having its own separate themed lands. Its really what they should have done with the 2012 refurb in my opinion.
 

mickEblu

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The name change deal is sounding more odd everytime I think about it. I would think it would be easier to just make the setting of Marvel Land a California city rather than rembranding the entire park.

I know. What's the difference of an alien tower in NY or LA / San Francisco?
 
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I figured this question was coming. DL created the mold for theme parks. It's the most magical of magical kingdoms. Duh.

It's a magic kingdom that starts with a romanticized Main Street from a small American town that leads to a hub n spokes that leads to clearly defined/ themed lands.

Huh? That isn't a theme, that's a collection of different themes.
 
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So to expand upon this, its not like the rest of DL is about Marceline. And on the flip side with DCA if they remove the overall CA theme, then BVS will still be Walt's CA, with the rest of DCA having its own separate themed lands.

Yep. In that sense DCA could be like DL, a park based on a random assortment ideas rooted in the past, tomorrow, fantasy, etc. Sort of a Disneyland 2.0. Like TDS this could position DCA to be more of a bookend to DL rather than a park about a single subject unrelated to the park across the way.
 

D.Silentu

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Not to be dismissive, because talk of Disneyland's theme is relevant, but a lot of it really boils down to one man's whimsy. It seems to me that from the perspective of 1955 it doesn't get much deeper then that. Rather, I think mickEblu hit the nail on the head. But since we've had sixty years to analyze it, it feels like there's more cohesion then there actually may be. At this point it's likely a question of "...the chicken or the egg" because Disneyland has sort of evolved into its own theme, and one that we see duplicated inside and outside the company.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Marvel likes to use (mostly) real world cities. The West Coast Avengers are located in Los Angeles. So, you can re-create a Californian city-scape in DCA for Marvel Super Hero Land.
 

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