News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[lazyboy97o]

Looks like the pre-show may be matching actual ride capacity. Both are efficient, but at least on opening day they were sending through empty cars because they weren't able to stack people at load / unload as efficiently. This is a good problem to have, and a far cry from the operational issues in the other direction.

Losing operational capacity is not a good problem. Preshows can and should be pulsed to match operational capacity.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Disney rides are supposed to be aesthetically, conceptually, or even intellectually thrilling. Physical thrills are by far the easiest to achieve - any amusement park can do it. That’s part of why Disney has come to rely more and more on physical thrills as their design abilities have precipitously declined.

Just an observation, think about how many roller coasters opened in WDW during its first 30 years. 4; Space Mountain (1975), Big Thunder Mountain (1980), The Barnstormer (1996) and Rock 'n Roller Coaster (1999).

Now think about how many will have opened in the last 10 years 4; Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (2014), Slinky Dog Dash (2018), Cosmic Rewind (2022), TRON (2022/2023).

It's interesting how Disney is increasingly relying on coasters for new rides, instead of inventing their own thrill system (Star Tours, Test Track, Indiana Jones, Tower of Terror, Mission: Space, Soarin') or building long-form multimedia attractions.

 

[donsullivan]

Oddly it has been this way throughout the previews and now into full opening.

It feels like it might just be a victim of the overall very high capacity of the attraction itself. When they start up the day from zero it seems to take some number of cycles of the pre-show to get the queue in load up to a level that most trains can go out full. It feels like something OPS can adjust for as they understand it in the coming days/weeks.

 

[celluloid]

Just an observation, think about how many roller coasters opened in WDW during its first 30 years. 4; Space Mountain (1975), Big Thunder Mountain (1980), The Barnstormer (1996) and Rock 'n Roller Coaster (1999).

Now think about how many will have opened in the last 10 years 4; Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (2014), Slinky Dog Dash (2018), Cosmic Rewind (2022), TRON (2022/2023).

It's interesting how Disney is increasingly relying on coasters for new rides, instead of inventing their own thrill system (Star Tours, Test Track, Indiana Jones, Tower of Terror, Mission: Space, Soarin') or building long-form multimedia attractions.

Definitely a trend in major parks as Universal's has increased and Sea World/BGT have given up on their once in a while simulator or dark rides.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Definitely a trend in major parks as Universal's has increased and Sea World/BGT have given up on their once in a while simulator or dark rides.

Of all the Orlando parks SeaWorld is the one that clearly wants to be seen as a "coaster park" and I think that's a good strategy for them.

I also like most of their coasters, so I'm looking forward to more.

 

[celluloid]

Of all the Orlando parks SeaWorld is the one that clearly wants to be seen as a "coaster park" and I think that's a good strategy for them.

I also like most of their coasters, so I'm looking forward to more.

I agree Sea World and BGT have always had the best thrill quality. It is a shame they have up on theming almost.completely though.

Mid to late 90s were quite a time for Orlando, Tampa and Williamsburg.

 

[HauntedPirate]

You said many will never ride or it’s a 1 and done? Doesn’t seem like it and that’s not even .005% of the tweets

Take a step back for a moment. First off, as someone who peruses several social platforms, your numbers are a gross exaggeration. Second, think of how many millions of people visit the parks every year. You really think there are that many tweets from people who A) post on social media, B) took the time to tweet about their experience, C) had a positive experience, and D) even if they didn’t will ride and ride and ride again?

Logic, not emotion.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I'm interested where you researched this, could you please link it up?

Umm… posts in this thread?

 

[solidyne]

To be fair, rotation and airtime are different types of forces. I can handle both but I can definitely handle airtime better.

Would you say that "rotation" includes Primeval, Teacups and the "airtime" includes Space and Tower? If so, do you think GotG is more in the former category? Where does, say, Star Tours fit in?

I'd love to see the different kinds of motion sickness outlined.

 

[solidyne]

Disney rides are supposed to be aesthetically, conceptually, or even intellectually thrilling. Physical thrills are by far the easiest to achieve - any amusement park can do it. That’s part of why Disney has come to rely more and more on physical thrills as their design abilities have precipitously declined.

Nailed it. Money is only a secondary issue. This comes down to the brains in the heads of the Imagineers.

I guess the geniuses, if we're allowed to identify such things anymore, and if they still exist, have moved on to other pursuits... video games?

ETA: Not a hater....headed to Epcot (sorry, EPCOT) next week!

 

[Vinnie Mac]

Would you say that "rotation" includes Primeval, Teacups and the "airtime" includes Space and Tower? If so, do you think GotG is more in the former category? Where does, say, Star Tours fit in?

I'd love to see the different kinds of motion sickness outlined.

Primeval would be a mix of rotation with a hint of airtime. Teacups is purely rotation. Space is ejector airtime and somewhat strong positive g-forces and Tower is more so freefall (which I guess you could say would be floater airtime). Though I have yet to ride GotG, I'm assuming it'd be a mix of all the previously mentioned forces (besides free falling).

 

[mergatroid]

Umm… posts in this thread?

Yet you criticised somebody for judging it from posts on twitter, yet your evidence is from a few posts on WDWmagic.com?

Take a step back for a moment. First off, as someone who peruses several social platforms, your numbers are a gross exaggeration. Second, think of how many millions of people visit the parks every year. You really think there are that many tweets from people who A) post on social media, B) took the time to tweet about their experience, C) had a positive experience, and D) even if they didn’t will ride and ride and ride again?

Logic, not emotion.

Without going back over every answer I recall most people querying whether they can manage this attraction and asking for comparisons, saying they'd try it out when it was compared to EE but less than R'n'R. I remember very few saying "I won't ride this" or "It's definitely one and done for me" which is what you're claiming enough Epcot visitors will do based on a few posts on here, hmmmm?

So out of all the millions of people who visit Disney every year, you think that the number on here questioning the ride somehow means a large percentage of the general public won't ride it? Many of the posts about nausea are from the same posters continually bringing it up even though the majority of them haven't experienced the ride yet.

At the risk of being accused of being a booster or 'shutting down the discussion', let's look at it logically. Yes people have become sick on this attraction (as happens on many attractions worldwide) and yes, Disney (or any theme park) would prefer nobody to become sick on a ride or refuse to ride it because they feel it too 'wild'. However 'thrill rides' are designed to scare, excite or create fun by moving you in ways that you normally don't move. By doing this there's always going to be a group of people who won't be able to ride without getting sick. My wife won't do Space Mountain or any mountain, does she represent enough of the population that makes all of Disney's mountains something to be laughed at? I'd even go as far as to say that it may cause more issues than expected, however for you to 'shut down' somebody quoting tweets from people saying they had no problem yet using people talking about it on here as factual evidence that a large enough group of people won't ride or will only ride once holds as little validity surely?

 

[OceanBlue]

Exactly the kind of information that is helpful to me, many thanks!!!

Does look forward mean, where the car is pointing you at any given time? thanks I too had my first issue ever with Star Tours!

 

[solidyne]

Does look forward mean, where the car is pointing you at any given time? thanks I too had my first issue ever with Star Tours!

I want to know this, too. Forward as in "car-facing" or "car-moving"?

 

[celluloid]

How long until one station becomes light spinning locked programming and capacity is skewed?

Kidding. I hope it does not get to that point, but I was not expecting sick bags to The Mission Space level.

 

[Incomudro]

Classic Epcot was fun without IP, so I imagine this could’ve been fun and certainly would have been a better fit. Definitely a gut-punch interview.

I'm interested where you researched this, could you please link it up?

He pulls this stuff out of his... Mind.

 

[disneygeek90]

Now offering barf bags as you exit the ride!

This is so odd to me as it never caused me an ounce of trouble. Didn’t even occur to me that it was bothering some. I never once felt nauseous, Star Tours is worse imo.

 

[Rich Brownn]

I remembering hearing at one point awhile ago that test track, since it was a new technology, did some kind of on site R&D where they intentionally disabled all safety systems to literally crash test an uncontrolled ride vehicles. It unattached itself from the track around the breaking/downhill return section of the outdoor loop.

I handful of times I have thought about this and cannot remember where I heard this from or have been able to find sources online to refresh my memory about actual details vs what I think I remember hearing.

There's a reason the door that open to outside is made of breakaway material

 

[beachlover4444]

This is so odd to me as it never caused me an ounce of trouble. Didn’t even occur to me that it was bothering some. I never once felt nauseous, Star Tours is worse imo.

I get what’s known as visual vertigo. Screens mess me up bad. and Spinning. If I can see where I am going I am ok. If I look away for even a sec I’m messed up. I won’t be able to do tron either and it kills me. Remy made me sick. Runaway railway I had to put my face in my hat for the flowing water scenes but i tolerate that ride better. The hogwarts ride caused major vomitping for me. No fun.

 

[beachlover4444]

I get what’s known as visual vertigo. Screens mess me up bad. and Spinning. If I can see where I am going I am ok. If I look away for even a sec I’m messed up. I won’t be able to do tron either and it kills me. Remy made me sick. Runaway railway I had to put my face in my hat for the flowing water scenes but i tolerate that ride better. The hogwarts ride caused major vomitping for me. No fun.