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News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

seabreezept813

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I don't always think it's shorter attention span. I mean look how much "binging" tv shows is a thing now. People can sit for hours watching something as long as they're engaged with the content. But it seems that doesn't always apply to a theme park though, people want quick thrills, which is a shame. They're fun and have their place but still.

This is a good point. As a teacher, I don't buy into the fact that I could focus longer in hs than my current students because they have shorter attention spans. I think we are just more culturally aware that certain people have shorter attention spans or need more physicality. Also, because tech is so fast, we feel like we have to keep up, instead of teach patience and endurance. Everything is instant gratification. I didn't need my homework texted to me or posted online to complete it, but if I don't do those things now as a teacher it's my fault if kids didn't do the work
 

Epcot82Guy

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The technology itself also lends itself in this way. It creates artificial interaction. We are social creatures by nature. Traditional lecturing doesn't necessarily map to our brains. But, we (well, a lot of us) are also very socially aware of upstaging a presenter. The issue with phones, laptops, etc. is that they create wonderful tools - but they also create opportunity for fast, dynamic interaction. Our brains naturally crave that. And, when that part gets stimulated, it craves more. In the real world, we get it from each other. So, you sit and listen (even if it's boring) because the other option is to not engage with something at all (even more boring). With our devices, it's as if you have 40 of your best friends right outside the door, so you can chat/gossip/collaborate/learn/rot your brain/[insert pro or con here]. And, you can now do it discretely.

The main issue is, based on newer research, you don't get the social fulfillment from tech interaction vs. real. So, you have to jump to something else to fill the void.

Translating that to WDW, the current attractions are basically like a high-sugar Mickey bar to the old attractions' tasty grilled chicken salad. One stimulates you, but pushes you to do more (and crashes accordingly). And, we live in a world where this surrounds us. The other is more sustained and engaging, but in a more docile, less exciting way.

A "balanced diet" here is key. But, there is a level of reality in our current society - especially for the American audience - that must be considered for the almighty $$$$.

**Off my psych/societal soap box**
 

Maeryk

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This is a good point. As a teacher, I don't buy into the fact that I could focus longer in hs than my current students because they have shorter attention spans. I think we are just more culturally aware that certain people have shorter attention spans or need more physicality. Also, because tech is so fast, we feel like we have to keep up, instead of teach patience and endurance. Everything is instant gratification. I didn't need my homework texted to me or posted online to complete it, but if I don't do those things now as a teacher it's my fault if kids didn't do the work

It's the evolution of the medium used to convey it. Once upon a time you took your homework home on a small slate you carried back and forth to school. Then everyone got paper, and pencils. Then pens, then typewriters, then computers... same homework, same concepts, just a different medium. I'm often surprised how much of my 13yo daughter's curriculum is based around dynamic media, rather than just a book. Of course, it makes sense now. The film strips *BEEP* click, or movies we used to see in school, can now be directly disseminated to each student via their computer or cell phone.. allowing them to absorb it at their own pace.

I _do_ think everyone having a cell phone in their hand has done something to attention spans though. How many people do you know who check it obsessively, even when nothing is going on? The issue there is it's a two way communication. If you are an avid book reader, nothing in the book is going to change between you putting it down and picking it up next time. But you might have mail, or a friend request, or a neat picture of someones breakfast on your phone.. and it could happen AT ANY TIME! So we obsess about the darned things.
 

Jenny72

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I just wanted to pop on to say that I was almost relieved to find this forum. I don’t know a lot of people who are interested in Disney stuff, and I thought I must be the only person who was sad at the direction it’s been taking. I lived in Florida when I was a little kid, and went to Epcot shortly after its opening. I remember all the originals. What strikes me so much is how Disney took ideas that were in the popular imagination and made them something you could experience viscerally. Pirates, dinosaurs, space travel, fairy tales, underwater travel – yes, technically some of these were also books and movies but that wasn’t really the point. It was about stuff that everyone could imagine. Big ideas.

I feel like movies are so “small” compared to that. When I take my kids, it’s so much better to say, “look, dinosaurs!” than it is to say “look, characters from a movie you’ve never seen. I can’t remember the name.” I’m happy to say that my son’s favorite park is Epcot, and his favorite rides are (surprising even me) Living with the Land, Spaceship Earth, and (ok, less surprisingly) Test Track. I don’t know when I’ll let them watch Guardians of the Galaxy, but not for a while. It’s not going to be meaningful for them. I do understand that it’s not that way for everyone, but these movies are just so…..small.

(Also agree about the cell phones, btw.)
 

The_Jobu

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I just wanted to pop on to say that I was almost relieved to find this forum. I don’t know a lot of people who are interested in Disney stuff, and I thought I must be the only person who was sad at the direction it’s been taking. I lived in Florida when I was a little kid, and went to Epcot shortly after its opening. I remember all the originals. What strikes me so much is how Disney took ideas that were in the popular imagination and made them something you could experience viscerally. Pirates, dinosaurs, space travel, fairy tales, underwater travel – yes, technically some of these were also books and movies but that wasn’t really the point. It was about stuff that everyone could imagine. Big ideas.

I feel like movies are so “small” compared to that. When I take my kids, it’s so much better to say, “look, dinosaurs!” than it is to say “look, characters from a movie you’ve never seen. I can’t remember the name.” I’m happy to say that my son’s favorite park is Epcot, and his favorite rides are (surprising even me) Living with the Land, Spaceship Earth, and (ok, less surprisingly) Test Track. I don’t know when I’ll let them watch Guardians of the Galaxy, but not for a while. It’s not going to be meaningful for them. I do understand that it’s not that way for everyone, but these movies are just so…..small.

(Also agree about the cell phones, btw.)

Welcome to WDWmagic!
 

po1998

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People complain about 15 minute rides now.. they are "uncomfortable" for that duration. Whether it's the aging of the population, less physical health, or just the heffalumping of the average guest, longer rides are passe.. and not just at Disney.
So according to your post above, the average guest doesn't want 15 minute attractions. Instead, are they are okay with a 3 minute attraction and a wait of 45-90 minutes(or more) standing in a queue?

IMO, long live HM, PoTC, SSE, IASW, CoP, and any other attraction that is longer than 3 minutes.
 

Maeryk

Well-Known Member
So according to your post above, the average guest doesn't want 15 minute attractions. Instead, are they are okay with a 3 minute attraction and a wait of 45-90 minutes(or more) standing in a queue?

IMO, long live HM, PoTC, SSE, IASW, CoP, and any other attraction that is longer than 3 minutes.
No clue on "average". Just know there are complaints.
 

EricsBiscuit

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The steamboat has one of the best wait times to attraction duration ratios ever if you time it right! Nothing like drinking an ICEe (which they don't have anymore, now it's the raspberry and blue slushies but whatever) and hearing the whistle blow, bells chime and boiler roar while peacefully lapping the RoA
 

Incomudro

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It's the evolution of the medium used to convey it. Once upon a time you took your homework home on a small slate you carried back and forth to school. Then everyone got paper, and pencils. Then pens, then typewriters, then computers... same homework, same concepts, just a different medium. I'm often surprised how much of my 13yo daughter's curriculum is based around dynamic media, rather than just a book. Of course, it makes sense now. The film strips *BEEP* click, or movies we used to see in school, can now be directly disseminated to each student via their computer or cell phone.. allowing them to absorb it at their own pace.

I _do_ think everyone having a cell phone in their hand has done something to attention spans though. How many people do you know who check it obsessively, even when nothing is going on? The issue there is it's a two way communication. If you are an avid book reader, nothing in the book is going to change between you putting it down and picking it up next time. But you might have mail, or a friend request, or a neat picture of someones breakfast on your phone.. and it could happen AT ANY TIME! So we obsess about the darned things.

Many people (too many) can't even engage in the act of driving without the distraction of checking things on their phones.
I'm not talking about being available for an incoming emergency call.
I'm talking about viewing Facebook and other websites while driving!
I take an express bus from central NJ to and from NYC and any random glance I take out the window and down into the surrounding vehicles yields people engaging in this form of distraction.
Scary.
So yes, if one does not have the attention span to pay attention to the act of driving - something important to the safety and lives of themselves and others...
 

Herah

Active Member
It's the evolution of the medium used to convey it. Once upon a time you took your homework home on a small slate you carried back and forth to school. Then everyone got paper, and pencils. Then pens, then typewriters, then computers... same homework, same concepts, just a different medium. I'm often surprised how much of my 13yo daughter's curriculum is based around dynamic media, rather than just a book. Of course, it makes sense now. The film strips *BEEP* click, or movies we used to see in school, can now be directly disseminated to each student via their computer or cell phone.. allowing them to absorb it at their own pace.

I _do_ think everyone having a cell phone in their hand has done something to attention spans though. How many people do you know who check it obsessively, even when nothing is going on? The issue there is it's a two way communication. If you are an avid book reader, nothing in the book is going to change between you putting it down and picking it up next time. But you might have mail, or a friend request, or a neat picture of someones breakfast on your phone.. and it could happen AT ANY TIME! So we obsess about the darned things.
We used to "ground" our kids by swapping their smartphone for a basic phone for a few days. Now we can't, because they need it to submit their homework.

And those same work/life issues that affect me when I can officially work from home, are affecting the kids... Homework is quite often due at midnight, which is OK - but this year my daughter had homework due in the middle of spring break.
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

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Is anyone ever going to finally just talk about this ride and what technologies it could possibly use? It's probably going to be an amazing E-Ticket attraction. I'm just getting kind of sick of coming to a thread that's supposed to be talking about a new ride and all I see is people complaining because it's in the wrong park and Epcot isn't how it was 30 years ago...
 

Maeryk

Well-Known Member
Is anyone ever going to finally just talk about this ride and what technologies it could possibly use? It's probably going to be an amazing E-Ticket attraction. I'm just getting kind of sick of coming to a thread that's supposed to be talking about a new ride and all I see is people complaining because it's in the wrong park and Epcot isn't how it was 30 years ago...


Probably, as soon as more details emerge. At the moment, all we know is concept art. And that it might be a new load/unload system, flying coaster style by Vekoma, and apparently, the current Energy building will be the queue, with the new ride being built behind it.
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

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Probably, as soon as more details emerge. At the moment, all we know is concept art. And that it might be a new load/unload system, flying coaster style by Vekoma, and apparently, the current Energy building will be the queue, with the new ride being built behind it.

Oh wow, cool. I just feel like I've been going through over 30-40 pages of the same talk lol. Thank you for all that info!
 

The_Jobu

Well-Known Member
Is anyone ever going to finally just talk about this ride and what technologies it could possibly use? It's probably going to be an amazing E-Ticket attraction. I'm just getting kind of sick of coming to a thread that's supposed to be talking about a new ride and all I see is people complaining because it's in the wrong park and Epcot isn't how it was 30 years ago...

Can I interest you in one of WDWMagic's many other threads then?

No one knows for sure what's coming and plenty of people have tossed out possibilities already.

Or you might really enjoy the DISboards. Everything's MAGICAL there.
 

aprincessatlasst

Active Member
Can I interest you in one of WDWMagic's many other threads then?

No one knows for sure what's coming and plenty of people have tossed out possibilities already.

Or you might really enjoy the DISboards. Everything's MAGICAL there.
:hilarious:
I read there too (dis) and just think seriously the pixie dust is crazy. Then I come here and feel like I am being yelled at by Grandpa saying "dang those kids and their rock n roll...back in my day..".:banghead: Is there a middle ground somewhere? FWIW I lean to this site as pixie dusters rarely seem to have correct info.
 

The_Jobu

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:hilarious:
I read there too (dis) and just think seriously the pixie dust is crazy. Then I come here and feel like I am being yelled at by Grandpa saying "dang those kids and their rock n roll...back in my day..".:banghead: Is there a middle ground somewhere? FWIW I lean to this site as pixie dusters rarely seem to have correct info.

I'm not familiar with a middle ground forum, but they probably won't have our grandpas with all their insider information anyway ;)
 

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