Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

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Donaldfan1934

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@MKeeler had an idea in another thread that they could leave the ride to Figment and Dreamfinder and put Inside Out in the theater. I could actually live with that.
That's not a bad idea. I didn't care that much for Inside Out personally though, so I'd prefer to see Figment and Dreamfinder take over both. But if I had to choose between one or the other, I'd definitely pick the ride.
 

odmichael

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Really? Not even the former WoL?
The thing is the theater is already up and running. It just needs a new film made specifically for it. It would take time to implement. But not due to the same restraints needed for a new attraction at the Wonders of Life Pavillion. Really the most time required would have to be taken to create the film which is much less time than I think for a new attraction at WoL.

I think updating the screen to modern 4k 3D would also be a plus.

While neat, the Pixar Film feels more out-of-place than a GOTG ride in Futureworld.

At this point, even bringing back Honey I Shrunk the Audience would be a win for that pavillion in my opinion.
 

odmichael

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The Ellen film's at least a warmer approach to the subject matter. Original film was probably the most serious of the original Epcot Center Future World rides and that worked against it. It had the songs and the rad Radok blocks going for it, but the main narrator's kinda dull.
It is everything I picture and try not to picture from that generation. The people from that generation love it. But it's dry which is why I can't appreciate it.
 

Donaldfan1934

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The thing is the theater is already up and running. It just needs a new film made specifically for it. It would take time to implement. But not due to the same restraints needed for a new attraction at the Wonders of Life Pavillion. Really the most time required would have to be taken to create the film which is much less time than I think for a new attraction at WoL.

I think updating the screen to modern 4k 3D would also be a plus.

While neat, the Pixar Film feels more out-of-place than a GOTG ride in Futureworld.

At this point, even bringing back Honey I Shrunk the Audience would be a win for that pavillion in my opinion.
All true, a replacement for an underwhelming attraction currently in use should be more of a priority than one that is now hidden. Although I will disagree with you on HISTA since I feel even something as hastily put together as the short film festival is better than brining back literally ANYTHING that has been there before. I have to say, I love how one of the shorts is Get a Horse, a short that was practically made for 4D.
 
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doctornick

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I was joking...

DHS is out. DAK is unsuitable. I doubt MK as Epcot is in much more dire need of updates. I would have doubted it going to Epcot even 6 months ago. Now...

MK doesn't need new attractions as much as the other parks, but ironically the best place to squeeze in GotG for a quick build would be to replace Stitch or Laugh Floor. Which would arguably improve TL in terms of being a more cohesive theme. So, of course, it's not on the table.
 

odmichael

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All true, a replacement for an underwhelming are currently in use should be more of a priority than one that is now hidden. Although I will disagree with you on HISTA since I feel even something as hastily put together as the short film festival is better than brining back literally ANYTHING that has been there before. I have to say, I love how one of the shorts is Get a Horse, a short that was practically made for 4D.
Originally I had hoped for Star Wars. With Guardians I know that will never happen.

Inside Out would be great there.

Or something completely new for that matter.
 

Phil12

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You know when EPCOT was cool? When solar panels powered the UoE ride..back when solar panels were not mainstream sources of energy. When you took an escalator in one of the Communicore buildings and they showed you how computers controlled everything in the parks...long before most families had 3-5 computers in their homes and 9 year olds walked around with smart phones in their pockets. At this point, I think it is darn near impossible for Disney to stay ahead of technology in future world. By time they finished an attraction it could very well be obsolete...which I believe has been EPCOT's problem all along. I am just happy they are not wedging an Apple store in next to Starbucks. My favorite part of future world? The fiber optic walkways, as long as they keep those I am happy.
Your comment is a testament to the power of Disney salesmanship and their public persuasion.

The photo voltaic cells on the UoE were very expensive and only contributed a maximum of 15% of the power needed to run the vehicles (about 77 kilowatts of direct current under perfect conditions) inside the pavilion. In reality the solar panels provided just a tiny bit of power to the vehicles.

Concerning the Astuter Computer Review (later changed to "Backstage Magic") they used an Atari 800 computer to demonstrate how computers worked. They gave the impression that a huge computer bank ran most of the operations in WDW. In reality, computers at WDW at that time were largely reeds and switches (technology from the 1930's).

It's very interesting to me how people are manipulated by clever salesmen to believe things that are not true. I think this sort of thing happens a lot when people recall the previous attractions at EPCOT and the other parks. Their memories are clear and concise but they fail to realize that their memories are based upon faulty information that they were fed by the sales staff.
 

flynnibus

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I'll take these together :)

I liked it better than Mission:Space; better than the 2nd and 3rd versions of Imagination, on par with Energy, and better than many WS pavilions , partcularly the ones that are literally just shopping and eating (looking at you, UK, Germany, Italy).

My dearest chap, opinion please!

I loved it.

Although I loved the pavilion, I do think they stuck too closely to the 80's design aesthetic, but that was just the props...the building itself was (and still is) beautiful inside.

The style was horribly 80s bold that didn't age at all. The dome looked cool from outside, but was largely pointless inside.

Im sure some loved it @marni1971 - but I felt it was doomed from the start. None of the open exhibits or show they had out in the open area really had much repeatability. The exhibits were mainly the same stuff we had at our local science center... Health topics were just as boring back then as they are now. The pavilion really lacked the 'celebrate what we have achieved and can do going forward' optimism that the other pavilions had. It was all the preachy side of the edutainment without any of the entertainment side of it. It took the worst part of communicore exhibits with some really bad 80s style and blah attractions. Did it really surprise anyone when they put it down? Even by the early nineties it reeked of let down.

To say it was dated almost from the start is kind of absurd to me.

It's aesthetic style was dated almost immediately. It's exhibits were underwhelming and offered no repeat value or excitement. It's shows were a drag... And it's headliner was the worst of the three motion simulators in town.... And that video was reaaaly bad and doesn't hold up at all.

Calling it the "worst pavilion in Epcot" is about as objectively wrong as an opinion can be. It had two great major attractions (Body Wars and Cranium Command) and lots of other stuff to do.

Body wars was inferior to both star wars and bttf. Cranium command gets acclaim now... But I never found it enjoyable...and even watching it decades later I still find no enjoyment in it. Neat idea, but flat. The exhibits and show out in the atrium were meh. Seriously a local science center was better in terms of entertaining exhibits.

I have no problem calling it the worst in Epcot.

I doubt the building offers much as a starting point.... Doze it and move on.
 

ThemeParkJunkee

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Whew! Finally caught up after working and driving "up north" for the holiday weekend. FWIW I left off reading around noon EST.

I believe GOTG will go into EEA because, channeling Bob Iger, DIS has the blessing of multiple IPs, many of which he purchased or developed and he'll be danged if they are not going to use them for maximum synergy and cross marketing. He also needs to hedge his bet on Shanghai.

That said, I am resigned to my favorite WDW park going this direction and will not be surprised by any new IP additions at this point. If this is announced, I will accept the writing on the wall. But I likely won't blame Bob. I blame the majority of the current park attendees who never experienced the cohesive message of edutainment about the world we live in, who we are, how far we have come and where we can go. The message left a long time ago. Current attendees, fans and one and done guests don't give a mouse's but about cohesive theme or consistent message. At least the PTB have recognized they have let Epcot rely far too long on food and beverage festivals.
 
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