Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

[Captain Neo]

I believe they are currently in the Great Movie Ride.

in what capacity?

 

[Donaldfan1934]

It's at times like this when, despite all the wonderful personal friends I've made through being an online Spirit and all of the people at Disney I've ****ed off, I just wonder if 90% of fans are dumb schmucks who really have no idea what it is that they're fans of.

No, I'm not back in this thread to talk specifics beyond the basic truth that GotG IP does indeed appear heading for EPCOT after TDO balked at the ToT plans from Anaheim, not over any intrinsic feeling that what was being proposed was inherently wrong as it was of course, but simply that they can't keep their laughable Studios park open minus another major attraction.

No, I'm more interested with the psyches of fans who say ''this is super awesome kewl'' because they are why we get what we do.

How can anyone be a fan of everything EPCOT is supposed to be about and think that making it simply MK 2.0 with three annual food and booze festivals is the correct move and should be lauded by fans from Sanford to Windermere?

That's what most fans want. They want every Disney park to be the Magic Kingdom (and not the one that existed in the 70s-90s, either).

I am of the firm belief that for most fans, 'Disney' is the theme. Always and everywhere.

It isn't about history, about what came before, about basic tenets of themed development at all.

It's about the BRAND.

It's about Star Lord and Groot, Buzz and Woody, Han and Kylo, Thor and Hulk, Rapunzel and Flynn, Ariel and Eric, Pooh and Tigger etc etc all the way to Mickey and Minnie.

Nothing else matters.

Sure, add IP everywhere because it's hot now .. some of it may even be hot for decades.

This is what is driving today's Disney and it's because the fans are too stupid to know any better or care. And before someone says ''well, GotG is better than what's there now'' I'll say there are more choices than regular or decaf, Coke or Pepsi, second amen... nah, let's stop there.

Future World is truly a timeless concept. A decade from now people might not care about GotG, but they will care about the future. They will care about the land ... about the seas ... about energy ... about transportation ... about imagination. Those concepts don't get old.

EPCOT's core concepts were picked precisely because of their importance to mankind (not the ego of an IP obsessed CEO). The idea that they have somehow grown tired because Disney basically decided late in the 20th century that spending money by reinvesting in the park wasn't good short term business is as crazy as removing gator toys from the shelves of WDW retail outlets because some oversensitive crackpot might have an issue with them.

We could talk about real stuff, like how WDW staffing levels for the July 4th weekend will be woefully insufficient even if it is slow based on SDL caused cutbacks. And how Disney is trying to get another 1,000 folks working this weekend and has accomplished 28% of that. But who cares, right? Those bathrooms were sparkling before and those trashcans and walkways were clean, right?

I like to trash Millennials from time to time and then say ''but some of my best friends are ...'' but this isn't just a young person issue. This is a fan issue. It really goes back to whether you were a Disney parks fan between the 1950s and the 1990s or simply in the last 15 years or so. Disney loves you newbs. Such low expectations. Such misguided views on Walt Disney, WDW and themed entertainment as a whole. And so, so easy to get in your pants ... for your wallets, of course.

Y'all want those Horizons tees, Orange Bird pillows, and LE Walt pins. You have no clue as to why beyond they're what all your cool fanboi friends have bought. Oh, let's not forget tiki mugs or even other mugs because you can't empty those jugs without multiple mugs.

Told y'all how I had drinks with a Celebrity Imagineer back 5-6 years ago now at DL. We talked about WDW's past and then current state and future. And he said mournfully, ''WDW fans get what they deserve.''

I know he wasn't talking about me, but I am really tired of getting stuck with what you like, what you think is right and quality, what you want. But it is a losing battle because what you want is so much cheaper and easier to create and install, so you win.

Congrats! It might make you happy for a while, but you get bored very quickly (that's why you've already had eight iPhones).

Great. Now you can go back to playing with your Groot toy. My Spirited Sabbatical is officially on. Enjoy the summer. And watch out for Ginger ... she snaps!

Excellently put. Its so sad but true that simpleton fans but true that simpleton fans will always win because there demands are so, well, simple. Now when you talk about Disney park fans and the longevity of their love for the parks, I want to many fans like myself have only been going the past 15 yers or so simply because we haven't been alive much longer than that. That being said, I have a solid understanding of what the parks are/were/and should be about. Their core values are why I fell in love with them growing up. If I grew up viewing the parks the parks as themeless, IP warehouses, then I prob wouldn't have cared enough to be commenting here today. So while I may be far more optimistic fan than someone of your age and experience, there are multiple big, irreversible developments on their way and I'm quite a bit less optimistic than I was even a year ago.

 

[Baltar]

in what capacity?

In the video clips during the finale if I'm not mistaken.. Obviously not a new scene in that attraction.

 

[Figments Friend]

What song is this?

'Promise' - finale song for Epcot's 'IllumiNations : ROE'

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[begood524]

I surely hope that this is just a rumor and not something that is really going to happen! GOTG does not belong in EPCOT, it belongs in MK in Tomorrowland or HS (but not on ToT). If anything, I want to see Wonders of Life turned into a cyber/computer pavilion with TRON Lightcycle Power Run as the main attraction. I know that TRON is still a movie franchise like GOTG, but TRON just seems so much more compatible with Future World than GOTG.

 

[GoofGoof]

I believe they are currently in the Great Movie Ride.

They are. Keep in mind that the Avengers wrap monorail was not allowed to be on the EPCOT loop since it entered a park. If they had a problem with the wrap on a monorail they would never be allowed to have the characters appear in a ride, even if it's just a movie scene.

 

[Baltar]

I surely hope that this is just a rumor and not something that is really going to happen! GOTG does not belong in EPCOT, it belongs in MK in Tomorrowland or HS (but not on ToT). If anything, I want to see Wonders of Life turned into a cyber/computer pavilion with TRON Lightcycle Power Run as the main attraction. I know that TRON is still a movie franchise like GOTG, but TRON just seems so much more compatible with Future World than GOTG.

I love Tron as much as the next guy but what you are proposing is no different in "wrong theming" as GOTG. And from what most have said, there's no truth that it's coming.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Because we're missing completely what they are going to do!
Using the GotG characters in a shot-for-shot remake of Captain EO!

Now THAT would be a match made in heaven.

 

[Yensid1974]

You aren't shy with your opinions. You should realize though that they are your opinions.

There is plenty of evidence out there to back up his contention....sadly.

 

[Yensid1974]

Okay I didn't mean to get us sidetracked. The negativity on here is just unbearable. I guess it's the price to pay for good scoops.

I would say it is not negativity as much as being positive there is a better way for most things that are being done.

 

[Filby61]

...Future World is truly a timeless concept. A decade from now people might not care about GotG, but they will care about the future. They will care about the land ... about the seas ... about energy ... about transportation ... about imagination. Those concepts don't get old.

EPCOT's core concepts were picked precisely because of their importance to mankind (not the ego of an IP obsessed CEO). The idea that they have somehow grown tired because Disney basically decided late in the 20th century that spending money by reinvesting in the park wasn't good short term business is as crazy as removing gator toys from the shelves of WDW retail outlets because some oversensitive crackpot might have an issue with them.

We could talk about real stuff, like how WDW staffing levels for the July 4th weekend will be woefully insufficient even if it is slow based on SDL caused cutbacks. And how Disney is trying to get another 1,000 folks working this weekend and has accomplished 28% of that. But who cares, right? Those bathrooms were sparkling before and those trashcans and walkways were clean, right?

I like to trash Millennials from time to time and then say ''but some of my best friends are ...'' but this isn't just a young person issue. This is a fan issue. It really goes back to whether you were a Disney parks fan between the 1950s and the 1990s or simply in the last 15 years or so. Disney loves you newbs. Such low expectations. Such misguided views on Walt Disney, WDW and themed entertainment as a whole. And so, so easy to get in your pants ... for your wallets, of course.

Slam dunk.

 

[seabreezept813]

I heard The Science Of Pixar sounded very cool

My family paid the ridiculous prices at the Museum of Science in Boston to see it. It was great! A little piece of Disney or Pixar edutainment in the Northeast.

 

[GoofGoof]

Just out of curiosity where were the GOTG characters showcased at WDW previously?

Star lord and gamora also appeared at the villains party last year.

 

[doctornick]

I was misunderstanding some info when I said September. That's DCA. Oopsies, my bad.

Our GotG will take a bit longer to start. But not too much longer. It will certainly open after Toy Story Land. Maybe before Star Wars depending on how long they drag their heels on that.

So, we are looking at maybe a 2019 timeframe for GotG in Epcot?

 

[wdwgreek]

Stupid guardians stupid galaxy. Where else am i going to see jamie lee curtis, alex trebic, ellen and bill nye in one place! I'm disappointed this is what they went with, but the building has been languishing for a while. In the main theater you csn hear the dinosaurs bleeding in, curtains don't work and some audio animatronics are missing. I inly hope the dinasours somehow get reused they are epcot opening classic figures.

 

[brb1006]

They're REALLY going to ditch Figment again? Again?!?

Please to make him as a cameo like the second incarnation.

 

[brb1006]

Cranium command.

Poor Buzzy, he's so lonely nowadays.

 

[GoofGoof]

Stupid guardians stupid galaxy. Where else am i going to see jamie lee curtis, alex trebic, ellen and bill nye in one place! I'm disappointed this is what they went with, but the building has been languishing for a while. In the main theater you csn hear the dinosaurs bleeding in, curtains don't work and some audio animatronics are missing. I inly hope the dinasours somehow get reused they are epcot opening classic figures.

How about using them at a dinosaur themed restaurant at AK? Might be too similar to T-Rex but AK needs more food options and it would be a cool way to draw people in. They could expand restaurantasaurus and add a few of the dinosaurs from the ride. I agree it would be good to keep at least a few around somewhere as a throw back to the original pavilion.

 

[brb1006]

Worst pavilion in Epcot. You didn't miss much. It felt dated practically as soon as it opened and was pretty bland from the start.

At least the area music was great.

 

[brb1006]

Although I loved the pavilion, I do think they stuck too closely to the 80's design aesthetic, but that was just the props...the building itself was (and still is) beautiful inside.

And the colors for inside and outside the pavilion felt very 90's with the amount of purple and blue find across the pavilion inside and outside it.