Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

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Haymarket2008

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I'd be surprised if we got an attraction radically different than the one proposed.

I'm surprised they have a second option, after Guardians, on the table. Will the second option be a different IP that fits the thrill ride requirement that they are obviously looking for? Or can we hope the theme will finally be that Big Bang overhaul :P ?
 

Cesar R M

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But certain IPs CAN fit the brand of original Epcot Center. Not sure why IP is suddenly a dirty word and not everything IP is bad or needs to be viewed bad... it's just in how the implement them (and they've done a poor job so far; Nemo could have been a lot better, for example and been a bit more educational without the "Where's Nemo" on repeat). Do they NEED them? No. But I'm willing to meet in the middle on some IPs.
I dont mind IPS that fit, but making EPCOT the new "Magic Kindgom v2 mamba Hamba deluxe edition" nope...
 

britain

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From what the insiders on the web are mumbling, it sounds like Disney is mulling its options regarding how to make a big Marvel impact at the parks. Here's my guess: Someone somewhere said all wheels should stop until they saw how Guardians 2 performed. If it's a solid hit, then Disney may proceed with making a solid GotG E-ticket at WDW, probably replacing Energy.

If, however, the new film is a huge, record-breaking, "biggest hit of the year" type of success, Disney may deem Guardians to be strong enough to serve as the de facto Marvel brand for Florida. A brand that could support a larger, SWL-land scale investment (perhaps replacing the SW Launch Bay area at the DHS) within which could have Marvel merchandising, restaurants and perhaps even attractions that dance along the gray fringes of what's legally permitted due to the Universal contract.

I'm sure Marketing would love to sell "The Marvel Experience" or something like that as a follow up to Star Wars at the DHS, but they legally can't do that. But they'd prefer not to sell "SuperHero City (with cameos from legal gray areas characters)" if there's an opportunity to sell "The Guardians of the Galaxy Experience (with cameos from legal gray area characters)".

Where would this leave Universe of Energy? Dunno. Put the Tron coaster there and de-tron-ify Test Track so that it can be Cars-i-fied? I really don't know.
 

jt04

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From what the insiders on the web are mumbling, it sounds like Disney is mulling its options regarding how to make a big Marvel impact at the parks. Here's my guess: Someone somewhere said all wheels should stop until they saw how Guardians 2 performed. If it's a solid hit, then Disney may proceed with making a solid GotG E-ticket at WDW, probably replacing Energy.

If, however, the new film is a huge, record-breaking, "biggest hit of the year" type of success, Disney may deem Guardians to be strong enough to serve as the de facto Marvel brand for Florida. A brand that could support a larger, SWL-land scale investment (perhaps replacing the SW Launch Bay area at the DHS) within which could have Marvel merchandising, restaurants and perhaps even attractions that dance along the gray fringes of what's legally permitted due to the Universal contract.

I'm sure Marketing would love to sell "The Marvel Experience" or something like that as a follow up to Star Wars at the DHS, but they legally can't do that. But they'd prefer not to sell "SuperHero City (with cameos from legal gray areas characters)" if there's an opportunity to sell "The Guardians of the Galaxy Experience (with cameos from legal gray area characters)".

Where would this leave Universe of Energy? Dunno. Put the Tron coaster there and de-tron-ify Test Track so that it can be Cars-i-fied? I really don't know.

Marvel being mostly exclusive to the west coast as Avatar will be to the east coast might be the best solution.

There are no shortage of adaptable IPs available.
 

britain

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Marvel being mostly exclusive to the west coast as Avatar will be to the east coast might be the best solution.

There are no shortage of adaptable IPs available.

You can't sell Spider-Man action figures in Pandora. You can in either a generic Super Hero land, or a Guardians of the Galaxy land.
 

jt04

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You can't sell Spider-Man action figures in Pandora. You can in either a generic Super Hero land, or a Guardians of the Galaxy land.

The contract says no merchandise in the parks I believe. Easier to add compact Carsland and other very popular franchises that are marketable. This is one of the easiest problems they have to solve.
 

2351metalcloud

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From what the insiders on the web are mumbling, it sounds like Disney is mulling its options regarding how to make a big Marvel impact at the parks. Here's my guess: Someone somewhere said all wheels should stop until they saw how Guardians 2 performed. If it's a solid hit, then Disney may proceed with making a solid GotG E-ticket at WDW, probably replacing Energy.

If, however, the new film is a huge, record-breaking, "biggest hit of the year" type of success, Disney may deem Guardians to be strong enough to serve as the de facto Marvel brand for Florida. A brand that could support a larger, SWL-land scale investment (perhaps replacing the SW Launch Bay area at the DHS) within which could have Marvel merchandising, restaurants and perhaps even attractions that dance along the gray fringes of what's legally permitted due to the Universal contract.

I'm sure Marketing would love to sell "The Marvel Experience" or something like that as a follow up to Star Wars at the DHS, but they legally can't do that. But they'd prefer not to sell "SuperHero City (with cameos from legal gray areas characters)" if there's an opportunity to sell "The Guardians of the Galaxy Experience (with cameos from legal gray area characters)".

Where would this leave Universe of Energy? Dunno. Put the Tron coaster there and de-tron-ify Test Track so that it can be Cars-i-fied? I really don't know.

Apparently, they might make another Tron sequel so there's that. Who knows how that could fit into the ideas of the pavilion. Cars has a lot of scenes that seem to take place in the South-West of the USA so if they rethemed the ride to look like that, that could make it seem somewhat more similar to the Mexico pavilion.

There's also the Wreck it Ralph sequel where Ralph supposedly breaks the internet. If taken literally, I would be unsurprised if real electrical energy played a major part in the movie.
 

jt04

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I think you're missing my point. The problem that needs solving is how to leverage Marvel in WDW, not what other IPs can we put in WDW.

And I think it is unnecessary on a large scale with the exception of guardians. There are many other options that don't risk protracted litigation.

Marvel on a large scale at WDW won't happen in all likelihood as Uni seems dug in. I never thought Uni would do that but Disney has plenty of other options
 

jt04

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Planning a trip for the grand opening of Hyperion Wharf?

It has a fond place in my memory. However, I do remember saying that if they went with HW, they would immediately need to start phase 2 due to crowds
And I always said parking garages would be a must. Seems they listened and gave us an even bolder plan.

Your welcome.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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I think you're missing my point. The problem that needs solving is how to leverage Marvel in WDW, not what other IPs can we put in WDW.
I'm sure it's been discussed numerous times and I don't want to argue about the marvel contract. Simple question - there are thousand of Marvel characters out there that would be outside the Universal contract. Why not develop characters with top quality scripts for new movies that can be crossed over to WDW. Use the characters blocked by the Uni contract for the West Coast - DLR.
 
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