Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

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KrazyKat

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I forgot where I heard this but rumor was Disney would be allowed to use the "MCU" or "movie versions of their MARVEL characters (MARVEL STUDIOS/2008) and Universal would be allowed to keep using the "comic book" version of MARVEL which is what IOA is based on anyway. Of course there was some $$$ compensation as well with merchandise sales at UOR.

Not sure how true it is.
 

danlb_2000

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I forgot where I heard this but rumor was Disney would be allowed to use the "MCU" or "movie versions of their MARVEL characters (MARVEL STUDIOS/2008) and Universal would be allowed to keep using the "comic book" version of MARVEL which is what IOA is based on anyway. Of course there was some $$$ compensation as well with merchandise sales at UOR.

Not sure how true it is.

I think this came from Screamscape a while back, although the article there never talked about what Universal would get out of the deal.
 

Matt_Black

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Well, since Uni does carry Marvel merch in the parks, from what I understand, possibly some sort of discount on that.
 

Disneyhead'71

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I meant it'll be another ride shoved in without any thought or care regarding placement.
You mean like Carsland (Arizona) in California Park, Alien Planet Land in Earth/Education Park, the country of Arendale in the Norwegian Pavilion, Persian Flying Carpets in French Polynesia, Buzz, Stitch, and Monsters in Tomorrowland, and machine gun toting vermin in Future World?
 

Mike S

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You mean like Carsland (Arizona) in California Park, Alien Planet Land in Earth/Education Park, the country of Arendale in the Norwegian Pavilion, Persian Flying Carpets in French Polynesia, Buzz, Stitch, and Monsters in Tomorrowland, and machine gun toting vermin in Future World?
Cars Land works because of California's car culture and the fact that the environment and Route 66 in general isn't totally out of place there. The themes of Avatar also work very well with Animal Kingdom. They're just swapping some imaginary creatures for others. Maybe the land could bring a new thought to the general theme by introducing the question of what animal life could exist outside of Earth.

The rest is good.
 

FigmentJedi

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Buzz, Stitch, and Monsters in Tomorrowland
Tomorrowland surrendered to pulpy sci-fi stories years ago. Buzz and Stitch work in theory, but the implementation is mixed with Buzz's inconsistency of whether you're adventuring with the real Buzz or just playing with toys on a large scale and Stitch's attraction being garbage. Monsters is totally out of place though, no matter how much flimsy excuses you make regarding the door technology.
 

Magenta Panther

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Tomorrowland surrendered to pulpy sci-fi stories years ago. Buzz and Stitch work in theory, but the implementation is mixed with Buzz's inconsistency of whether you're adventuring with the real Buzz or just playing with toys on a large scale and Stitch's attraction being garbage. Monsters is totally out of place though, no matter how much flimsy excuses you make regarding the door technology.

Yeah, I like the Monsters show, but it really doesn't belong in Tomorrowland.
 

Cesar R M

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Cars Land works because of California's car culture and the fact that the environment and Route 66 in general isn't totally out of place there. The themes of Avatar also work very well with Animal Kingdom. They're just swapping some imaginary creatures for others. Maybe the land could bring a new thought to the general theme by introducing the question of what animal life could exist outside of Earth.

The rest is good.
but these were not Chapek's pushings, are they (Avatar, Cars land)?
 

jt04

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You mean that people with taste and discernment DO exist within the confines of the Robert Iger Company?

That's a freaking relief. If what you say is indeed the case, I can well imagine that there's been some inner-circle fuss raised about the tacky intrusions of off-kilter IP into the parks of late. Look at the fuss a lot of us here - and elsewhere - have made about them, especially over the destruction of the Towers. I recently looked at the Youtube video featuring Joe Rohde about the GotG makeover of DCA's Tower. Lots more downvotes than upvotes. Here's the link if anyone's interested:

Be sure to watch this on Youtube to see the votes. Stuff like this kinda restores my faith in humanity...


Group mentality on parade. Same people who hated the Pandora idea and now drool over it.
 

jt04

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The concept art looks magnitudes better for gotg than the model. I am extremely impressed by the concept of this Marvel land. Maybe even more than Pandora ....but not as much as Star Wars Land.
 

Haymarket2008

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But then that opens the door for that whole area to be rethemed. Including Tower. Why not just build an entire new attraction where the launch bay or Indy is?

That would absolutely be ideal. If they MUST overlay an attraction at WDW, instead of a new build, I'd vote RnRC over Tower or Energy.
 

lazyboy97o

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That vekoma Prototype got more interesting. It's looking more and more like a Horizons type of attraction than an a rollercoaster.

I still strongly believe this might be what disney is looking into for the UOE building and the rumored Guardians of the galaxy Attraction.

It's not a Horizons style ride system. It is a roller coaster. A dark ride segment is possible with it but it is still a roller coaster.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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I see it more of a coaster capable of a range of speeds and different seating orientation. It only really evokes Horizons because of the way the vehicles are positioned. But it's clearly intended for faster motion and different angles than the side orientation, it even seems to have launch coaster like functionality.



And IF Disney were using this ride system for a GotG ride, I would not expect them to waste these innovations. If they were just making a slow moving ride, they could just replicate an old Horizons or omnimover ride system, which would be far cheaper and more familiar to them. There would be little reason to use this (no doubt expensive) type of ride system if they didn't plan on even utilizing the speed.

By the way, @Carousel Of Progress Love has been tweeting that the GOTG project was moved back over to DHS currently (NOT as a Tower of Terror replacement though). I don't know if THIS information is correct or up to date, but he has been very good about accurately reporting the recent Tomorrowland plussing going on.
 

roj2323

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It's not a Horizons style ride system. It is a roller coaster. A dark ride segment is possible with it but it is still a roller coaster.
If that's a rollercoaster so is every Omnimover. The only difference here is the riders back is to the track instead of their feet and instead of the ride vehicle being continuous it's in a long segment. Additionally for a ride to be a roller "coaster" the ride vehicle has to coast unassisted along a track. The length of this train in the video is too long to allow for coasting because as soon as it is at the top of the "lift hill" there's more drive motors in the track that control the train and there's magnetic brakes installed on the train to control the decent as well. This test assembly is likely to test the effectiveness of the magnetic brake setup on the train in controlling and maintaining a consistent safe speed going downhill. I will however admit that this is a hybrid rollercoaster / omnimover and it's never been seen before. The potential for an immersive omnimover with a thrill aspect is quite cool to consider.

Here's a backstage shot of Horizons track.
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Spaceship earth - notice the rollercoaster type wheel setup and track.

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