Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

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Disneyhead'71

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RoysCabin said:
Well said on the topic of "theme" vs. "amusement".

Recently my brother, some friends, and I spent a couple of days in Hershey, PA, and wound up spending half a day or so at Hershey Park. Obviously Hershey does not put the type of money into parks the way a company like Disney does, but while the park was alright for what it was, it never made more than some half-hearted attempts to use theming. There were differently named areas with a few aesthetic differences and maybe differentiated food/drink choices, but nothing particularly thorough or even on the level of a Busch Gardens.

This isn't to really knock Hershey: it is what it is, and it does what it does pretty well. But when you ditch theme for sheer amusement, you open yourself up to an arms race with any local competition, where now you must have the tallest ride, or the fastest ride, or the more inversions or what have you, rather than letting the strength of your theming and overall atmosphere carry the day and make park patrons more invested in the totality of the park experience, even if said park doesn't have record breaking coasters in it.

If Disney keeps losing sight of theme, they risk entering, at least in the Orlando market, such a relationship with Universal, where it becomes a need to outdo one another in transient, temporary thrill terms rather than each focusing on their core strengths and building a long term fans via a completely immersive experience. I have to think that over the long haul such an approach may actually be less cost effective; strong theming can keep you from having to completely update something for a decent stretch of time (assuming regular and proper upkeep/maintenance) because people actually want to be within the confines of your park and will pay for the pleasure of walking around and being in it, rather than simply using your park as a means of transit to get from one ride to the next with as little distraction as possible.
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Universal's attention to detail and state of the art attraction just caused WDW to drop a cool billion on 2 rides.

Oh, and I'd ride Ellen's before Jan.

Just sayin'
 
Professortango1

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RoysCabin said:
If Disney keeps losing sight of theme, they risk entering, at least in the Orlando market, such a relationship with Universal, where it becomes a need to outdo one another in transient, temporary thrill terms rather than each focusing on their core strengths and building a long term fans via a completely immersive experience. I
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Well, Universal has recently begun doing the latter and knocked it out of the park both times. Both Daigon Alley and Hogsmede far surpass Disney's newest offering of New Fantasyland. I know Universal is also planning to refurb their Marvel area to bring it to a more modern theme park feel rather than the current theme park set up. Disney is slipping into Amusement Park status in some areas and Universal is started to move towards Theme Park bit by bit. Let's hope Universal continues it's movement and Disney turns things around with Pandora.
 
Goofyernmost

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Cesar R M said:
They should actually upgrade. Its not 1990 anymore.
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If we are talking about energy though, isn't it pretty much the same now as it was then? Fossil fuels, wind, water, nuclear and solar. What's new that is being developed that wasn't being developed in the 90's. I'm serious what can be upgraded. Have the historic aspects changed? Did Dinosaurs not have anything to do with it, was that just rumor? Has the concept of the Big Bang Theory been debunked? Other then new actors and I fail to see what will be accomplished by that, what would be an upgrade? Besides there can only be one "Stupid Judy". Perhaps new Animatronics but other then the Dino's those are not a large part of it anyway.
 
Matt_Black

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Goofyernmost said:
If we are talking about energy though, isn't it pretty much the same now as it was then? Fossil fuels, wind, water, nuclear and solar. What's new that is being developed that wasn't being developed in the 90's. I'm serious what can be upgraded. Have the historic aspects changed? Did Dinosaurs not have anything to do with it, was that just rumor? Has the concept of the Big Bang Theory been debunked? Other then new actors and I fail to see what will be accomplished by that, what would be an upgrade? Besides there can only be one "Stupid Judy". Perhaps new Animatronics but other then the Dino's those are not a large part of it anyway.
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Well, the previous versions were somewhat biased towards the fossil fuel industry. Also, I didn't see geothermal in your list, where we harness the power of the piping hot magma within the Earth's crust!
 
Goofyernmost

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Matt_Black said:
Well, the previous versions were somewhat biased towards the fossil fuel industry. Also, I didn't see geothermal in your list, where we harness the power of the piping hot magma within the Earth's crust!
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You kinda need an active volcano for that don't you? Or lots and lots of pipe. I'd prefer coal to living on top of a volcano thank you! :) But, you are correct I did forget that, but, it has a limited range of usage so... it really doesn't matter all that much. We should use it where you can and we do.
 
Professortango1

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2020_C.E.O said:
Someone take this guy out, before Disney thinks this (ToT removal) is a good idea. Kidding... kind of. o_O;)
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We're safe. Rumor has it that WDW's Tower had a similar fate designed, but Orlando pointed out that DHS' couldn't lose one of 5 attractions they have remaining. The Twilight Zone theme is supposed to be dropped in the next 5 years though.
 
Cousin Huet

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Phil12 said:
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You may want to do a small amount of research into how that percentage was achieved......not much integrity involved at all. It is absolutely terrifying the freedom and liberties that many are willing to give up in the name of pumping out their personal political ideology all while never bothering to never to even check where the information comes from. Scaring the public into giving you more control of their lives has been the status quo for a long time and not that far in the past we were hearing about the coming ice age and not the horrible cartoons. Fear is the number way for all political extremists to take our rights away so please stop encouraging them by propagating their nonsense to other people. It is getting more and more difficult to battle this nonsense for those of us who actually enjoy the freedom that was the reason this country exists to begin with.
 
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